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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Heretic on May 15, 2011, 08:50:04 PM
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After 8 years I'm done..............Game just isn't fun anymore for me.....Tired of the hordes......Have fun with it fellas. Maybe if the game changes over time I might come back.
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you will be back 1of5....
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Really???? if the other teams were rolling bases lets say yours would you be pulling the pin tonight?
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Every time I come back to this game I always see two - three posts exactly like this. Someone gets owned a few times and get pissy and quits only to come back in a month or two.
When the game starts to really bug me, I silently take a break.. hell I haven't played in years. Since 2007ish I really haven't gamed much at all, maybe a month or two here and there but that is it.
I guess what I'm saying is... I don't understand peoples need to let others know that they are leaving? I could understand if we were your friends..:D
My 1 1/2 cent.
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I don't why I posted? Just to let the few guys who do know me that I'm done. I really haven't logged many hours lately. Working lots of OT and life gets in the way.
I do miss the old days when the game was about air combat. I never recalled having to try to defend against 50 planes swarming a VH base! I'll be back someday. I just need a long break from this game.
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:salute
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Take care, Heretic.
Perhaps some changes will happen.
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I don't why I posted? Just to let the few guys who do know me that I'm done. I really haven't logged many hours lately. Working lots of OT and life gets in the way.
I do miss the old days when the game was about air combat. I never recalled having to try to defend against 50 planes swarming a VH base! I'll be back someday. I just need a long break from this game.
Even a weeks break helps out sometimes man.
Games can get really frustrating, I know the feeling.
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1of5 LMAO! I just caught that! Have fun bro. I'll be back later. <S> Dim
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I can understand this, I feel people fly more together these days in larger squads, and inevitable it can lead to overkill if more than one (or sometimes just one) shows up at a fight/field although I hope you return one day Heretic! In the mean time good luck with real life :salute
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Every time I come back to this game I always see two - three posts exactly like this. Someone gets owned a few times and get pissy and quits only to come back in a month or two.
When the game starts to really bug me, I silently take a break.. hell I haven't played in years. Since 2007ish I really haven't gamed much at all, maybe a month or two here and there but that is it.
I guess what I'm saying is... I don't understand peoples need to let others know that they are leaving? I could understand if we were your friends..:D
My 1 1/2 cent.
Parolees don;t have any friends. Well, some special friends waiting for them to come back after they violate their parole but other than that . . . :lol
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Parolees don;t have any friends. Well, some special friends waiting for them to come back after they violate their parole but other than that . . . :lol
+1 :D
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Every time I come back to this game I always see two - three posts exactly like this. Someone gets owned a few times and get pissy and quits only to come back in a month or two.
When the game starts to really bug me, I silently take a break.. hell I haven't played in years. Since 2007ish I really haven't gamed much at all, maybe a month or two here and there but that is it.
I guess what I'm saying is... I don't understand peoples need to let others know that they are leaving? I could understand if we were your friends..:D
My 1 1/2 cent.
I am with you. I stop playing over a month, just lost total intrest in it after six years of playing. I do not miss it at all.
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see ya in 2 weeks! :aok
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1of5 LMAO! I just caught that! Have fun bro. I'll be back later. <S> Dim
:aok
Enjoy the time away....~S~
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Hey! Look at me! Please, please, please beg me to stay!
Yawn.
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Hey! Look at me! Please, please, please beg me to stay!
Yawn.
I always thought attaching your name to a tournament was a better way to get people to 'look at me' :lol
The guys just posting that hes leaving/taking a break for various reasons not all game related hardly a look at me thread, think hes entitled to after that long in the game. :salute
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I always thought attaching your name to a tournament was a better way to get people to 'look at me' :lol
The guys just posting that hes leaving/taking a break for various reasons not all game related hardly a look at me thread, think hes entitled to after that long in the game. :salute
I put in the work to host the tournament. I have that right.
I've been playing for almost 16 years. I've taken breaks (without giving up my subscription) but somehow never felt the need to post about it.
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I put in the work to host the tournament. I have that right.
I've been playing for almost 16 years. I've taken breaks (without giving up my subscription) but somehow never felt the need to post about it.
Here's an idea. If you don't like the thread, don't post in it.
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Hey! Look at me! Please, please, please beg me to stay!
Yawn.
beat me to it... :lol
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I do miss the old days when the game was about air combat. I never recalled having to try to defend against 50 planes swarming a VH base! I'll be back someday. I just need a long break from this game.
What game have you been playing? It's been like this ever sense I can remember. In fact as far as I know most of the bases I've seen taken over the years have been by pure force of #'s and if you don't do it that way then it's guys trying to sneak one. All in all I would say the main problem is that any time you get a large group of guys with some organization in this game they get squeaked at or about. Everyone is happy as long as it's just a large gaggle of guys flying to a base in a conga line (some times not even then) and having a spat but once they get organized then there is a problem.
I can understand this, I feel people fly more together these days in larger squads, and inevitable it can lead to overkill if more than one (or sometimes just one) shows up at a fight/field
Have to disagree on this. At least the "I feel people fly more together these days in larger squads" part. If anything squads have gotten much smaller in the last couple years. There are not near the squads with multiple wings as far as I can tell as when I first started playing. I for one was a long time Bird Of Prey back when they had what, 4 or 5 wings and I seem to remember many large squads like that that have shrunk drastically or totally dispersed all together.
Just making a couple observations here nothing more. :)
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I put in the work to host the tournament. I have that right.
I've been playing for almost 16 years. I've taken breaks (without giving up my subscription) but somehow never felt the need to post about it.
look at me look at me. I'm special.
I feel the need to tell everyone how hard I work on a game.
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I put in the work to host the tournament. I have that right.
I've been playing for almost 16 years. I've taken breaks (without giving up my subscription) but somehow never felt the need to post about it.
Hello pot... this is kettle...
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Sorry to so you go Heretic, hopefully after a nice break you'll come back refreshed and recharged.
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At least the "I feel people fly more together these days in larger squads" part. If anything squads have gotten much smaller in the last couple years. There are not near the squads with multiple wings as far as I can tell as when I first started playing. I for one was a long time Bird Of Prey back when they had what, 4 or 5 wings and I seem to remember many large squads like that that have shrunk drastically or totally dispersed all together.
Indeed. Back in 2001 after the demise of Air Warrior, many of large uber squads migrated to AH...including the AK's, MAW's and The Damned, which numbered 70+ players divided into 3 flight wings. The horde is nothing new. Perhaps the rosey concept of pure air combat existed in the very early beta days but in the 10 years I've been around it's been horde vs horde.
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All in all I would say the main problem is that any time you get a large group of guys with some organization in this game they get squeaked at or about.
Organization as in:
We need 10 sets of LANCs, 5 goons and the rest of you in heavy fighters. 3 of you run up ahead and kill radar so they know for sure that we are coming. V5 will fall!!!! The sad part is that sometimes these missions do fail because of a single LA7 showing up and killing the goons :rofl
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The game, at present, has been pretty much this way for most of a decade. Lotsa folks don't come to that conclusion until they've been here long enough to grow tired of flying with 40 plane whords capturing v-bases over and over, and actually try to advance their skills. You can always find something interesting if you pick around the edges-only fly certain types of missions, only fly older planes, etc. I'm loving the new gv setup (now that my pedals can be used) Spend almost as much time in tanks as I do in jug
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ive known heretic for many years, we were on the same squad way back in the day. Ive been on longer that he has and I agree with what he is saying. The game has changed, not saying there is anything wrong with that just have to learn to adapt is all. It is very frustrating at times. I quit the game for about a year when switched to AH2 for the simple fact it was so different and I didnt want to bother learning it over again. Ive been on and off ever since so I can totally see where he is coming from. Im sure he will come back some day and play again, we all do at some point. Cut the guy a little slack, he is one of the better players at the game and deserves a little respect. His intentions were not to whine just to let the ones that cared to know he was done.
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Organization as in:
We need 10 sets of LANCs, 5 goons and the rest of you in heavy fighters. 3 of you run up ahead and kill radar so they know for sure that we are coming. V5 will fall!!!! The sad part is that sometimes these missions do fail because of a single LA7 showing up and killing the goons :rofl
I never said fancy or extremely skilled organization did I? In AH just getting a large group together all doing the same thing at the same time constitutes organization most of the time lol. AND that is what I see people complain about most of the time. :)
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I too think the Hordes are ruining some fun in the game. Honestly, I'm going to pull out & go to another fight as soon as a horde arrives. Ooooo Base takers by Horde, you're so cool! NOT!! :huh It's gotta be a good fight to be a GOOD Fight! Usually the skill of many of these Horders is lacking at best, humorous at worst. That's why they wanna be in a horde, So they can cheer "We Won!!" even if they get killed in the first 5 minutes of the Horde-Fest. :furious :bhead
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Alrighty then...think we have this one covered. Let's move on to a new subject....ENY? Arena limits? Collisions?
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I think the hordes are required to maintain interest in the game, as most folks fall into 2 categories. Quite simply "for the horde" or "against it" Sadly there are far fewer who are against it, "umm this may not be true" maybe "less organized" is the phrase more appropriate. There is no "mission planner" that can be made to contest the hording of a base, the game mechanics are such that "on a planning" standpoint all the advantages go to the horde mission. Until there is a fundamental shift in how the "offense" and "defence" relate to one another "unchecked hordes will always be here. I believe it begins and ends with the player base, as ALL of these horde missions contain veteran gamers playing to the "lowest standard" If those with experience would "up their standards" we could begin to narrow the gap tween HORDE and FUN :salute
Just my humble opinion
JUGgler
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We have had various squad members leave recently, they are still playing though which is strange :old:
Don't play for two weeks and watch poo TV it works wonders :old:
Why am i still poo at this game?
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You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave... :aok
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I don't why I posted? Just to let the few guys who do know me that I'm done. I really haven't logged many hours lately. Working lots of OT and life gets in the way.
I do miss the old days when the game was about air combat. I never recalled having to try to defend against 50 planes swarming a VH base! I'll be back someday. I just need a long break from this game.
that is what wirbs are for...also b17s are the best way to defeat the horde, they all chase you giving your buds a string of pearl to sweep in on and at least im able to kill 3-4 of them before they get me and they chew up all their ammo and have to rtb
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I never said fancy or extremely skilled organization did I? In AH just getting a large group together all doing the same thing at the same time constitutes organization most of the time lol. AND that is what I see people complain about most of the time. :)
:lol OK, with that definition I would have to agree but some nubes may call that a hoard :neener:
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We have had various squad members leave recently, they are still playing though which is strange :old:
Don't play for two weeks and watch poo TV it works wonders :old:
Why am i still poo at this game?
:lol
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Hello pot... this is kettle...
Color Check Send... :lol :lol
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What Jugler said, to have the game be any different than what it IS, would require the sort of forced participation in adhoc squads you see in WOT or 1st person shooters....doesn't really lend itself to the intricacies of fighting WW2 aircraft
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Have to disagree on this. At least the "I feel people fly more together these days in larger squads" part. If anything squads have gotten much smaller in the last couple years. There are not near the squads with multiple wings as far as I can tell as when I first started playing. I for one was a long time Bird Of Prey back when they had what, 4 or 5 wings and I seem to remember many large squads like that that have shrunk drastically or totally dispersed all together.
Just making a couple observations here nothing more. :)
By flying together in a squad it could mean they are flying more effectively and perhaps less likely to take risks because their squaddie may be depending on them and there is generally more incentive to get home together and land kills together. That is just my general perception of late in the MA, I also watch over a lot of films of sorties and can recognise a lot of squad flying.
I don't really know what the solution to this is either it was simply an observation, it certainly seems to kill diversity in gameplay.
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I put in the work to host the tournament. I have that right.
I've been playing for almost 16 years. I've taken breaks (without giving up my subscription) but somehow never felt the need to post about it.
Good for you, the BBS would be a good idea to let a few guys he knows know he is leaving rather than try and catch them all online at the same time, theres plenty of look at me threads for you to post in on this BBS.
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. I believe it begins and ends with the player base, as ALL of these horde missions contain veteran gamers playing to the "lowest standard" If those with experience would "up their standards" we could begin to narrow the gap tween HORDE and FUN :salute
Just my humble opinion
JUGgler
I think "NO standard" would be more accurate. Don't get me wrong, some mission planners are really nice guys, BUT for the part, they don't set these missions up for fun but rather to fullfill their own freak Napoleonic desires. Its hilarious to see some of the "mishun gods" straggle behind to let the noobs die for the fatherland, meanwhile they are feeding off the scraps and RTBing with a few kills. But then again..if you are against missions..then you must be in it for the score :confused: The proof is by the new guy that is the only goon that gets berated for dropping troops at a Field rather than town. You would think at least they would take the time with these guys at least to teach them what they did wrong.
What this game needs is incentive for new guys to at least TRY to do well. Give names in lights saying that XXX survived a 3 vs 1 to at least achieve some sort of notoriety that "hey..this guy must be good".
Although probably a coding nightmare, it would definitely improve gameplay.
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Indeed. Back in 2001 after the demise of Air Warrior, many of large uber squads migrated to AH...including the AK's, MAW's and The Damned, which numbered 70+ players divided into 3 flight wings. The horde is nothing new. Perhaps the rosey concept of pure air combat existed in the very early beta days but in the 10 years I've been around it's been horde vs horde.
I think that is the big misconception. We didn't have hordes back then like we do know, Hordes almost NEVER fight each other. What we had back then was Furballs.
Furballs are masses of fighters in a tight area where all kinds of fight could be had. High alt fights between the "pickers" that can in over the top to dive and pick. Turn and Burn for those who liked to get in deep and and either liked the challenge of bagging a few and getting out alive, OR bag as many as you can before your dead. Drag and Bag fights, slide into the edge of the furball and try to drag a guy out for a 1 vs 1. Some even took place over water and PT boats could get into the action.
Hordes are nothing but locusts. They roll over a base in minutes destroying everything. If the mission fails, they go some place else. If the mission succeeds, they go someplace else. The only fight they generate is for those first few uppers that try to get up before the vulch is set-up.....if you want to call that a fight.
In the old days, squads went head to head for a base and fought over it all night if thats what it took. You knew "who" you were against, and you learned their tricks as they did yours. It made for epic battles. Today most of that type of game play is gone.
Hope to see you again some day Heretic <S>
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The question most of us ask ourselves at one time or another:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Gn0e7kvTA
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After 8 years I'm done..............Game just isn't fun anymore for me.....Tired of the hordes......Have fun with it fellas. Maybe if the game changes over time I might come back.
Horde? Never :rofl Hope you come back Heretic so I can trap you on my six
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I just took a three month break and it sucked. I have decided not to embrace the suckage.
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