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Title: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: W7LPNRICK on May 22, 2011, 05:31:02 PM
In case you haven't seen this... :salute

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x58D-42nW_c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x58D-42nW_c)
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: MAX-107 on May 22, 2011, 06:15:18 PM
now thats a cool video man. thats crazy that how that one guy can fit threw the hole in wing and it landed safely.
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: W7LPNRICK on May 22, 2011, 08:00:49 PM
gets better every time I watch it.  :aok
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: Fencer51 on May 22, 2011, 10:03:01 PM
There was an hour long show on the History channel a few years ago entitled "Thunderbolts Conquest of the Reich".  It was a documentary which had the entire footage of the combat documentary which this short came from as well as interviews with a few surviving pilots.  I have it on tape but have been looking for a DVD of it for a couple years now.
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: climber on May 22, 2011, 10:48:00 PM
Now that is slick!  I'm a huge Jug fan (the aircraft so keep your brains out of the gutter) and really enjoyed that film. 

Here is a challenge for someone, especially those of you out there with the talent to take AH films and turn them into awesome videos (Lepape you're one of the folks i'm thinking of).  Take this film and re-make it using AH.  Obviously some of the later portions of pilots and crewmen can't be done but it seems like the other footage could be done.  It could be a neat tribute to the real life heroes that flew these birds. 

If anyone seriously decides to give this a shot (I know I don't have the artistic talent, patience, or editing skills) please let me know.  I will be the first to volunteer to fly for the camera!

-Climber
CO. 77th FS "Gamblers"
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: oakranger on May 23, 2011, 12:10:31 AM
P-47D-25    :rock
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: Lepape2 on May 23, 2011, 11:52:07 AM
Now that is slick!  I'm a huge Jug fan (the aircraft so keep your brains out of the gutter) and really enjoyed that film.  

Here is a challenge for someone, especially those of you out there with the talent to take AH films and turn them into awesome videos (Lepape you're one of the folks i'm thinking of).  Take this film and re-make it using AH.  Obviously some of the later portions of pilots and crewmen can't be done but it seems like the other footage could be done.  It could be a neat tribute to the real life heroes that flew these birds.  

If anyone seriously decides to give this a shot (I know I don't have the artistic talent, patience, or editing skills) please let me know.  I will be the first to volunteer to fly for the camera!

-Climber
CO. 77th FS "Gamblers"

Maybe with a whole lot of chutes walking around  :lol
For this video to be possible, a LOT of teamwork, skill, and help from the community would be needed to get film footage as is necessary to closely ressemble this video. Also a LOT of free time and preparation on my part would be needed which is not much available right now. We will see...
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: W7LPNRICK on May 23, 2011, 07:50:20 PM
Nice thought though...  :aok
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: JUGgler on May 23, 2011, 08:01:39 PM
 ;)  SEXY   :)



JUGgler
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: WWhiskey on May 23, 2011, 09:14:28 PM
Now that is slick!  I'm a huge Jug fan (the aircraft so keep your brains out of the gutter) and really enjoyed that film. 

Here is a challenge for someone, especially those of you out there with the talent to take AH films and turn them into awesome videos (Lepape you're one of the folks i'm thinking of).  Take this film and re-make it using AH.  Obviously some of the later portions of pilots and crewmen can't be done but it seems like the other footage could be done.  It could be a neat tribute to the real life heroes that flew these birds. 

If anyone seriously decides to give this a shot (I know I don't have the artistic talent, patience, or editing skills) please let me know.  I will be the first to volunteer to fly for the camera!

-Climber
CO. 77th FS "Gamblers"
I've been thinking of doing this for years!
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: Seadog36 on May 24, 2011, 04:07:04 AM
This is one of my favorites~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny_Qb8v7drQ

Great music, well cued to the action, lots of the same footage and more.

Here is another tribute video I discovered recently with some footage of Pacific P-47 ace Neel Kearby, actual guncam footage from his 7 kill sortie and a great Fiery Ginger (his Jug) taxi and flyby segment. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTuTgUPpZtg
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Urbanflotsom1/NK1.jpg)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Urbanflotsom1/FGa.jpg)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Urbanflotsom1/NKfbb.jpg)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Urbanflotsom1/NKfbc.jpg)
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n83/Urbanflotsom1/NKfbd.jpg)
Enjoy

~Seadog36
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: WWhiskey on May 24, 2011, 08:05:32 AM
good films,, @ 6.50 ish  Jugs off a CV  very kool!
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: W7LPNRICK on May 24, 2011, 06:37:06 PM
One jug had a molded fuselage come up high behind the canopy...? Not the single flat blade of aircraft metal, but a raised portion starting back by the tail & terminating with the glass.  :headscratch:
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: Seadog36 on May 24, 2011, 06:54:14 PM
One jug had a molded fuselage come up high behind the canopy...? Not the single flat blade of aircraft metal, but a raised portion starting back by the tail & terminating with the glass.  :headscratch:

All jugs did from the early P-47B, C, and D1-D23 production blocks and are referred to as razorbacks. The bubble canopy version only started in late 1944 with the D25-D40 blocks and that feature was carried on into the M and N models. I think thats what you are referring to.
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: Tyrannis on May 24, 2011, 10:19:15 PM
does anyone else think world war 2 footage seems better in black&white?


idk what it is, but for me seeing it in black&white grips me more than in color.
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: climber on May 24, 2011, 11:19:57 PM
I think the B&W is what we expect when we see footage from WW2.  But the occasional color footage is a treat.  It somehow makes it seem more real and it makes a connection that these are people with real lives fighting.  In a world of color everything I sometimes feel a disconnect with B&W imagery.  Sounds funny but that is just my feeling.  The WW2 in color series on History channel (if you haven't seen it) is a treat and does a great job with bringing to life period images.  It still has that "archival" feeling since the color is a bit washed out and fuzzy at times.

I did notice something on the OP's video during the opening sequence of the pilot going through the engine start sequence on "Tarheel Hal".  There was another video on Youtube (actually listed on the side as a "you may like this too video") of a current day pilot doing the same startup sequence in none other than "Tarheel Hal".  It kind of makes you wonder as to the authenticity of the original video.  Even if they shot some film and dressed it up to period looks to fill some blanks it made for a really cool video to watch.

-Climber
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: oakranger on May 24, 2011, 11:46:05 PM
good films,, @ 6.50 ish  Jugs off a CV  very kool!

Yea, that was take off only to land on distant airstrip.  I think, most likley could be wrong, they did the same on P-51s too. 
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: Seadog36 on May 25, 2011, 12:20:13 AM
They take lots of liberties with archival footage, I've noticed many inaccuracies~ incorrect aircraft from different squadrons in different arenas even seen allied and axis footage substituted  :old:
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: W7LPNRICK on May 25, 2011, 06:33:04 PM
All jugs did from the early P-47B, C, and D1-D23 production blocks and are referred to as razorbacks. The bubble canopy version only started in late 1944 with the D25-D40 blocks and that feature was carried on into the M and N models. I think thats what you are referring to.

Good explanation. You obviously know your "Jugs". :P  :D
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: Blagard on May 25, 2011, 07:08:55 PM
It is interesting to watch the difference between those using tracers and those who were not. There was a mix of footage for both ground and air targets some with and some without tracers. Who got to decide what was used?

All was good footage - but it seemed a bit of a mess in the presentation (Seadogs clip) with so many varients being mixed up from one shot to the next.

You can of course fly your own real P47 albeit only a model Parkzone P47 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA3stm4E0no). I have been thinking of getting one with the optional retracts fitted. Incidentally you will crash very quickly unless you have been taught to fly RC.

Edit: As a test of your model flying abilities try offline a P47 25% fuel no bombs and press F5 and zoom in. Now fly. A simple take off, then right hand circuit and land. your are not allowed to switch to any other views. If you get down OK bear in mind that is easier than RC! - if you crash, I guarantee you would crash the model
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: W7LPNRICK on May 25, 2011, 08:17:31 PM
Thinking about how many times I crash the cartoon version & the cost for an RC always screamed "NO!" in my mind.  :old:
Title: Re: P-47's WWII air combat video
Post by: WWhiskey on May 25, 2011, 08:42:01 PM
It is interesting to watch the difference between those using tracers and those who were not. There was a mix of footage for both ground and air targets some with and some without tracers. Who got to decide what was used?

All was good footage - but it seemed a bit of a mess in the presentation (Seadogs clip) with so many varients being mixed up from one shot to the next.

You can of course fly your own real P47 albeit only a model Parkzone P47 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA3stm4E0no). I have been thinking of getting one with the optional retracts fitted. Incidentally you will crash very quickly unless you have been taught to fly RC.

Edit: As a test of your model flying abilities try offline a P47 25% fuel no bombs and press F5 and zoom in. Now fly. A simple take off, then right hand circuit and land. your are not allowed to switch to any other views. If you get down OK bear in mind that is easier than RC! - if you crash, I guarantee you would crash the model
I used to fly rc for the army   tell me something I don't know!