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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: redman555 on May 27, 2011, 07:20:10 PM
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If I ever have a daughter (which I dont, I want a son), NEVER ground your daughter and take her cellphone away.... lol
http://xfinity.comcast.net/video/dad-grounds-daughter-shot-with-arrow/1954338680/Comcast/1954053163/
-BigBOBCH
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Well it wasn't accessible but I have two sons. Am I ever grateful? You betcha!
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This the one where that dad got shot with the training arrow? Makes us teens look bad :mad:
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See Rule #4
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See Rule #4
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You both are trolling, and it's despicable.
On topic, that girl should be put down or jailed for a decade or two. Pre-meditated [attempted] murder against a family member, no less, is unacceptable and inexcusable.
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You both are trolling, and it's despicable.
What, and you're not?
On topic, that girl should be put down or jailed for a decade or two. Pre-meditated [attempted] murder against a family member, no less, is unacceptable and inexcusable.
How intellectual of you.
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You both are trolling, and it's despicable.
On topic, that girl should be put down or jailed for a decade or two. Pre-meditated [attempted] murder against a family member, no less, is unacceptable and inexcusable.
I agree, if she did that over a cell phone imagine what else she's capable of.
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I agree, if she did that over a cell phone imagine what else she's capable of.
:rofl :rofl
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I have a teenage daughter, and her cellphone is the best leverage that we have. We don't take it away though, at least not physically. I just log into Verizon and set her phone permissions so she can't send or receive calls or texts from anyone but my wife and I. She gets her drivers license in a few months, our leverage will be even greater then... :devil
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I have a teenage daughter, and her cellphone is the best leverage that we have. We don't take it away though, at least not physically. I just log into Verizon and set her phone permissions so she can't send or receive calls or texts from anyone but my wife and I. She gets her drivers license in a few months, our leverage will be even greater then... :devil
Very creative, also my parents got my my phone about a week ago, and they have often joked that i've stepped up on helping out and staying out of trouble since I got it. Also I get my license in a few months and My dad says if I do anything to loose the privilege to drive, he'll take the battery out of my car and take the keys.
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seems to me that this guy is lucky. shot like that.......coulda been worse if she used a broadhead.
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What, and you're not?
No. Calling out two individuals who insulted a third unprovoked (and completely hijacked a topic while they were at it) is not trolling.
How intellectual of you.
The thickness of your sarcasm is only outmatched by the thickness of your skull. If you disagree with my stance on capital punishment and capital punishment toward minors please feel free to form an argument that is more than a one-line comeback.
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No. Calling out two individuals who insulted a third unprovoked (and completely hijacked a topic while they were at it) is not trolling.
On the contrary, the topic wasn't 'hijacked' until you replied. Am I not allowed to comment? I wasn't informed of that change.
The thickness of your sarcasm is only outmatched by the thickness of your skull. If you disagree with my stance on capital punishment and capital punishment toward minors please feel free to form an argument that is more than a one-line comeback.
I never said whether or not I agreed or disagreed with your statement, I merely called you an idiot in a 'subtle' way.
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No. Calling out two individuals who insulted a third unprovoked (and completely hijacked a topic while they were at it) is not trolling.
The thickness of your sarcasm is only outmatched by the thickness of your skull. If you disagree with my stance on capital punishment and capital punishment toward minors please feel free to form an argument that is more than a one-line comeback.
Wait a second, you want this girl dead? That's completely insane. She didn't kill him, you couldn't even put an adult away for life for that. Premeditation requires a good deal of evidence to confirm, this seems to be more of an aggravated assault/attempted manslaughter case.
-Penguin
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Erm, I don't think there is such thing as attempted manslaughter. You can't try to kill someone accidently.
But I could be wrong, definitely wouldn't be the first time.
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Erm, I don't think there is such thing as attempted manslaughter. You can't try to kill someone accidently.
:rofl
You make a compelling point!
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Wrong.
Manslaughter is usually broken into two categories: Voluntary and involuntary.
A man in my town was nearly beaten to death last month. The prosecution is pushing for attempted voluntary manslaughter against the assailants.
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Wrong.
Manslaughter is usually broken into two categories: Voluntary and involuntary.
A man in my town was nearly beaten to death last month. The prosecution is pushing for attempted voluntary manslaughter against the assailants.
melvin, the key word is "attempted"...in a case where an assault was committed and a life was endangered regardless of means, it can be assault with the intent to kill, attempted homicide, voluntary or involuntary manslaughter and another term that escapes me at the moment...
i may say this wrong but, in a manslaughter case it's a matter of a death occurring in the course of a criminal act where there was not necessarily an intent to kill someone.
that girl will probably be charged with a string of charges including assault with a deadly weapon, assault with intent to cause grevious bodily harm and attempted murder...whatever the prosecution can get a solid conviction on or the defense can plea bargain down to.
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I hate the plea bargain.
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I hate the plea bargain.
Plea bargaining is essential in preventing anymore congestion in our courts than there already is.
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is no one worrying about the deeper problems that are being pointed out by this?
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:lol He said pointed....
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is no one worrying about the deeper problems that are being pointed out by this?
trying not to second guess what else was going on in the house or how our society is devolving with each generation...best to keep it superficial
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trying not to second guess what else was going on in the house or how our society is devolving with each generation...best to keep it superficial
yea, you';re probably right. but i can't help it.
i see soo many failures in this, from the basic parenting that she obviously never got, right up to the society that seems to almost condone something like this, probably finding ways to not blame her. after all......what's a girl to do without her cell phone?
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is no one worrying about the deeper problems that are being pointed out by this?
This is like being used as a threat, don't do this or bad things will happen, which is complete crap, adults need to keep and show they have the power or else all hell will break loose. The topic should have been "Here's a reason to take your daughters cell phone away"
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This is like being used as a threat, don't do this or bad things will happen, which is complete crap, adults need to keep and show they have the power or else all hell will break loose. The topic should have been "Here's a reason to take your daughters cell phone away"
Way to go Raptordude!
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This is like being used as a threat, don't do this or bad things will happen, which is complete crap, adults need to keep and show they have the power or else all hell will break loose. The topic should have been "Here's a reason to take your daughters cell phone away"
aaaannd raptordude dives in head first...
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Teenagers...
(http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae209/thedevilsbrigade1/Ventrilo011.jpg)
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Teenagers...
(http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae209/thedevilsbrigade1/Ventrilo011.jpg)
:rofl :rofl :rofl Now where did you find that?
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Teenagers...
(http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae209/thedevilsbrigade1/Ventrilo011.jpg)
ZOMG SOCIETY IS CRUMBLING!!!!!!!
Two things:
1) Onion
2) This thread is full of fail. Also, who the hell actually advocates having the death penalty for children!?
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Or, just lock up the weapons first. I successfully grounded my 15-year old over grades. It was tough but I had no fear. Women folk can just plain ol be scary though!
Boo
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Or, just lock up the weapons first. I successfully grounded my 15-year old over grades. It was tough but I had no fear. Women folk can just plain ol be scary though!
Boo
how was it tough? it seems pretty simple(from a non-parent perspective). simply ground them. they go to school. they have till XX time to be home after school.
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Or, just lock up the weapons first. I successfully grounded my 15-year old over grades. It was tough but I had no fear. Women folk can just plain ol be scary though!
Boo
When I unload the dishwasher every day sometimes my mom is watching housewives and I've often asked her if they have guards with tasers or tranquilizers behind the camera incase things get to bad, its gets scary! Also at my school girls are the ones who fight most often, 37 fights before school let out, 24 of them from girls. Its uncalled for.
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This thread is full of fail. Also, who the hell actually advocates having the death penalty for children!?
I guess you would say I do. I do think there is an age where a person cannot be held 100% responsible for their actions, but I think that age is quite less than 17 or 18. If 15 and 16 year olds are going to be committing adult crimes they should be dealing with adult punishments, simple as that. Teenagers are being allowed to do all the fun things adults do with none of the consequences. Thank God they still can't vote.
EDIT: Throwing in an IMO
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I guess you would say I do. I do think there is an age where a person cannot be held 100% responsible for their actions, but I think that age is quite less than 17 or 18. If 15 and 16 year olds are going to be committing adult crimes they should be dealing with adult punishments, simple as that. Teenagers are being allowed to do all the fun things adults do with none of the consequences. Thank God they still can't vote.
EDIT: Throwing in an IMO
I'D SAY that by 15, teenagers, while they don't know everything, they DO know the consequences of actions such as those in the op./
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I guess you would say I do. I do think there is an age where a person cannot be held 100% responsible for their actions, but I think that age is quite less than 17 or 18. If 15 and 16 year olds are going to be committing adult crimes they should be dealing with adult punishments, simple as that. Teenagers are being allowed to do all the fun things adults do with none of the consequences. Thank God they still can't vote.
EDIT: Throwing in an IMO
I see what you're saying, but I don't think it's right that a person that young (since nobody is fully mature at that age) should face an irreversible and permanent penalty for something they've done, no matter what it is. From another point of view, what good would it do to kill them? People can change a lot between when they're 15/16 and when they're an adult, I know I have in many ways, and I know many other people have too. Giving them a death penalty before they get a chance to do anything different just isn't right (in any sense of the word).
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I see what you're saying, but I don't think it's right that a person that young (since nobody is fully mature at that age) should face an irreversible and permanent penalty for something they've done, no matter what it is. From another point of view, what good would it do to kill them? People can change a lot between when they're 15/16 and when they're an adult, I know I have in many ways, and I know many other people have too. Giving them a death penalty before they get a chance to do anything different just isn't right (in any sense of the word).
just playing devils advocate here......but the death penalty would not be being given to them, but rather they brought that penalty to themselves.
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Justice for the victim is more important than sympathy for the assailant to me.
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...and freedom and justice for all.
Does that phrase mean anything to you? I don't consider myself any sort of patriot, but this goes against the very rationale of our country. How is killing this man's daughter justice for him? Are you guys ignoring the fact that it's his kid?
-Penguin
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...and freedom and justice for all.
Does that phrase mean anything to you? I don't consider myself any sort of patriot, but this goes against the very rationale of our country. How is killing this man's daughter justice for him? Are you guys ignoring the fact that it's his kid?
-Penguin
She was old enough to think on her own, and if she did this over a cell phone what happens if she looses a job or gets her car taken away? She doesn't need the death sentence, but she sure as hell needs some help and maybe some jail time.
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I wasn't arguing against any punishment whatsoever, I was arguing against locking her away for life/taking her out behind the courthouse any spraying her brains across the pavement. However, I'd love to raise the question to the entire board:
Do you think the dad would be at least somewhat against punishing his daughter with jail time? Why or why not?
-Penguin
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I wasn't arguing against any punishment whatsoever, I was arguing against locking her away for life/taking her out behind the courthouse any spraying her brains across the pavement. However, I'd love to raise the question to the entire board:
Do you think the dad would be at least somewhat against punishing his daughter with jail time? Why or why not?
-Penguin
Only question that comes to mind is why the hell did she have access to a crossbow and arrows? This could have been a fatality. My friend has access to 2 mosin nagant's in his closet(yes my gay friend) but he's mentally stable so I don't see a problem there. I guess he wasn't at fault because how could he have known she would do that?
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...and freedom and justice for all.
Does that phrase mean anything to you?
-Penguin
where did you get that phrase?
if the man had died i'd consider life without parole...unless my taxes have to go up to support the defendant...then forget the expensive "humane" thing, $1 can end it much more efficiently.
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F22, it was a crossbow? Oh, that's so wrong, but yet so right. :devil (Tongue in cheek)
Gyrene, in many cases, the extra appeals put out by a defendant facing the death penalty eat up the savings of not having to put them in prison. Plus, if you're wrong, you can let them out again.
-Penguin
PS We're skirting close to Rul #14 violations, let's not get vacations
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lol...penguin, you're so naive it's unreal. and you didn't answer my question...
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know why stuff like this happens? because they know there will be no consequences. know how they know this? because of bleeding hearts that think it must be someone elses fault that she shot her father. :bhead :bhead :furious
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...and freedom and justice for all. Does that phrase mean anything to you?
Absolutely. That very phrase is the backbone of my stance on this.
I don't consider myself any sort of patriot, but this goes against the very rationale of our country.
The first part of that sentence disturbs me immensely. Why so many people get squeamish when somebody tries to call them a patriot nowadays is a serious problem, in my opinion.
I know such a severe punishment for a 15 year old goes against the current rationale of our country, I am saying that the rationale is wrong. I am sure before she attacked her father with a deadly weapon she weighed the consequences, because by the age of 15 you have reached a level of maturity that gives you the ability to think for yourself and consider things in the long-term. And I have no doubt that the very reason she pressed her attack was because she concluded she was owed extra protection under the law, because she's just a girl. The matter only gets worse when she attempts to deny him the ability to seek medical aid, indicating that she showed no remorse for her actions.
How is killing this man's daughter justice for him? Are you guys ignoring the fact that it's his kid?
It sounds to me like your position is based more on your emotions. The only way the man can have any justice is if his daughter suffers grave consequences. She's the one who fired the arrow, if she gets off scott-free there is no justice, and he has received no protection under the law.
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lol...penguin, you're so naive it's unreal. and you didn't answer my question...
I got that phrase from the pledge of allegiance, forgive me for not citing it properly. How am I naive? When faced with death, all alternatives are preferable.
GNucks, check your PMs. I'm not in the mood to get banned.
-Penguin
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I got that phrase from the pledge of allegiance, forgive me for not citing it properly. How am I naive? When faced with death, all alternatives are preferable.
GNucks, check your PMs. I'm not in the mood to get banned.
-Penguin
aside from you using the wrong words...that pledge has nothing to do with a person's rights...it's not based on anything really legal. you really seriously should study american constitutional and judicial history better..."justice for all" was taken out of the equation in the latter half of the 20th century with the words "interpretation and fees"...don't be so naive and pay attention.
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aside from you using the wrong words...that pledge has nothing to do with a person's rights...it's not based on anything really legal. you really seriously should study american constitutional and judicial history better..."justice for all" was taken out of the equation in the latter half of the 20th century with the words "interpretation and fees"...don't be so naive and pay attention.
lol, Liberty and Justice for all. D'oh! I didn't even think about that when I replied to him. Nonetheless, the phrase (while not actually being binding law) in part reflects the principle of equality that the country holds so dear. Not a Constitutional attorney myself, but I would have cited the 14th Amendment instead (but that still wouldn't support his position).
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Bring back prison time at hard labor.
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Did you guys not notice the elipsis at the start of that quote?
This is an ellipsis: ...
It means that the quote is not presented in its entirety. I used a partial quote to emphasise my point about justice for all. If you guys want to debate, let's do it via PMs.
-Penguin
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Did you guys not notice the elipsis at the start of that quote?
This is an ellipsis: ...
It means that the quote is not presented in its entirety. I used a partial quote to emphasise my point about justice for all. If you guys want to debate, let's do it via PMs.
-Penguin
The problem wasn't that you didn't write the Pledge of Allegiance in its entirety, the problem was that you botched the words.
It's "Liberty and Justice for all."
Not "Freedom and Justice for all."
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Oh nuts, I messed it up. Sorry! :eek:
-Penguin
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The problem wasn't that you didn't write the Pledge of Allegiance in its entirety, the problem was that you botched the words.
It's "Liberty and Justice for all."
Not "Freedom and Justice for all."
the fact that you had to bring out the crayons and illustrate the error to him is just ... (http://itbeisl.at/Smileys/akyhne/rofl.gif)
good thing i haven't started drinking yet...my monitor would be a mess
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the fact that you had to bring out the crayons and illustrate the error to him is just ... (http://itbeisl.at/Smileys/akyhne/rofl.gif)
good thing i haven't started drinking yet...my monitor would be a mess
Hey, Penguin ain't a bad guy. No need to go insulting him.
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Bring back prison time at hard labor.
funny you say this.
ever notice how crappy the highways look now? all trashed up and stuff? and the govts say they don't have the money to do anything about it? whelp....they got prisoners, that need to be doing something besides sitting in an air conditioned cell all day.
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funny you say this.
ever notice how crappy the highways look now? all trashed up and stuff? and the govts say they don't have the money to do anything about it? whelp....they got prisoners, that need to be doing something besides sitting in an air conditioned cell all day.
Good point, it doesn't even seem like a punishment to some inmates.
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Good point, it doesn't even seem like a punishment to some inmates.
If I were sent to prison I'd consider being kept in close quarters with murderers and gangsters a bigger punishment than not being allowed to live with civilization.
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If I were sent to prison I'd consider being kept in close quarters with murderers and gangsters a bigger punishment than not being allowed to live with civilization.
Well it also matters on what you did, they separate the serious crime offenders from the minor crime offenders, but as in all prisons, don't pick up the soap! :rolleyes:
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I don't think it matters whether you pick up the soap or not- these guys don't need an invitation.
-Penguin
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I don't think it matters whether you pick up the soap or not- these guys don't need an invitation.
-Penguin
My parents don't baby me anymore, they say That If I get in trouble with law or anyone I can deal with it myself. Living by that i'm very careful about what I say and do.
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I don't think that they'd really leave you to the dogs if the sand hit the fan. It's probably just a scare 'em straight tactic to keep you out of trouble. I don't mean to say that you ought to get in trouble, though!
-Penguin
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I know what you mean, i've done some dumb things with friends and had my fair share of talks with police officers, my latest prank was setting my book bag on fire and seeing how far I could run. Needless to say, I learned my lesson real quick. My parents try to not interfere with my life, and I do the same but I always do what i'm asked of and Give up what they tell me to if I get in trouble.