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Title: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: SpencAce on May 28, 2011, 01:19:24 PM
it is the most badass looking thing from ww2.. nuff said.                        just use google image to find a pic
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 28, 2011, 01:20:31 PM
it is the most badass looking thing from ww2.. nuff said.                        just use yahoo image to find a pic

So this isn't a wish for a plane that didn't actually serve in WW2, right?



wrongway
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: SpencAce on May 28, 2011, 01:21:40 PM
no it served in ww2 ... just at like the very, very, end... that y we like need it... it would be the coolest thing in the game
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: JOACH1M on May 28, 2011, 01:24:34 PM
no it served in ww2 ... just at like the very, very, end... that y we like need it... it would be the coolest thing in the game

Prove it :D
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: gyrene81 on May 28, 2011, 01:27:27 PM
no it served in ww2 ... just at like the very, very, end... that y we like need it... it would be the coolest thing in the game


Prove it :D
:rofl   :lol  i'm willing to bet good money he can't find a single instance of a full squadron or combat involvement...
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: SpencAce on May 28, 2011, 01:27:43 PM
ok well, technicaly it was still experimental until 1948... but there were flying prototypes that were used in combat in 1945
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: JOACH1M on May 28, 2011, 01:28:34 PM
ok well, technicaly it was still experimental until 1948... but there were flying prototypes that were used in combat in 1945
...
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Golfer on May 28, 2011, 01:30:54 PM
ok well, technicaly it was still experimental until 1948... but there were flying prototypes that were used in combat in 1945

Cool!!!  What kind of missions did they do?
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: gyrene81 on May 28, 2011, 01:36:12 PM
ok well, technicaly it was still experimental until 1948... but there were flying prototypes that were used in combat in 1945
oh you mean the ones that were dog fighting zekes at roswell before the military put a secret base there...ya,  :aok 

 :rofl  :lol  :rofl  :lol i need to grab a few beers, this could be fun...
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: caldera on May 28, 2011, 01:38:09 PM
I heard they used them in durability testing with live ammo.  Some guy on the BBS had a great-uncle that was the test pilot, so you know it's legit.

Might be the only fighter that can survive a non-linear flight path within 10 miles of a CV group.  ;)
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 28, 2011, 01:58:39 PM
Cool!!!  What kind of missions did they do?

The P-82 was used over Japan for live firing tests to see how easily the P-82 could avoid Japanese AAA.  There is a very respected member of the AH community who's uncle was a test pilot that died during one of these test flights over Yashikamijojo in 1945.

ack-ack
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Golfer on May 28, 2011, 02:02:41 PM
Then we must have it in game.  We must.

SpencAce great idea!  I don't know how we overlooked this airplane all this time and I know a lot about WWII.  I researched the raid on Macho Grande where the P82 would have been so much more effective.
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: mbailey on May 28, 2011, 02:31:24 PM
The P-82 was used over Japan for live firing tests to see how easily the P-82 could avoid Japanese AAA.  There is a very respected member of the AH community who's uncle was a test pilot that died during one of these test flights over Yashikamijojo in 1945.

ack-ack

Was waiting for this.................. :rofl :rofl :aok
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Tyrannis on May 28, 2011, 02:40:45 PM
honest question:


what was the main purpose of the twin mustang? its key role? its dogfighting capabilities? and such?


idk, just something about its design makes me think of it as a turkey. :headscratch:
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 28, 2011, 03:37:32 PM
honest question:


what was the main purpose of the twin mustang? its key role? its dogfighting capabilities? and such?


idk, just something about its design makes me think of it as a turkey. :headscratch:

Range.

It was meant as a very long range escort. Lots of fuel and two pilots. One could rest while the other drove.

F-82s scored the first Allied kills in the Korean War. An La7 I believe.



wrongway
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Guppy35 on May 28, 2011, 04:21:18 PM
The P-82 was used over Japan for live firing tests to see how easily the P-82 could avoid Japanese AAA.  There is a very respected member of the AH community who's uncle was a test pilot that died during one of these test flights over Yashikamijojo in 1945.

ack-ack

No that wasn't the P-82, it was the P51VLR(20mm).  We've had this discussion before! :)
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 28, 2011, 04:36:22 PM
No that wasn't the P-82, it was the P51VLR(20mm).  We've had this discussion before! :)

Nope, the P-82.  Maybe the player who's uncle died over Yashikamijojo would provide more details on his last mission.

ack-ack
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: TwinBoom on May 28, 2011, 04:39:01 PM
My dad flew P-59`s with quad 20mm over Okinawa he downed 5 bettys 2 ki-100`s  and several weather balloons  :cheers:
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Lusche on May 28, 2011, 04:47:53 PM
No that wasn't the P-82, it was the P51VLR(20mm).  We've had this discussion before! :)


P-82:  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,281001   :D
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Guppy35 on May 28, 2011, 05:00:53 PM
LOL I must have subconciously blocked that thread out from fear :)
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: gyrene81 on May 28, 2011, 05:17:12 PM
P-82:  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,281001   :D
:rofl   :lol  dangit lusche...you gotta warn a guy before you do stuff like that...i had a mouth full of tea  :lol

that was one of the most epic funny threads around here...
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: SoonerMP on May 28, 2011, 09:13:14 PM
Then we must have it in game.  We must.

SpencAce great idea!  I don't know how we overlooked this airplane all this time and I know a lot about WWII.  I researched the raid on Macho Grande where the P82 would have been so much more effective.

Raid on Macho Grande.... Lest we forget  :salute 

 :lol
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Guppy35 on May 28, 2011, 11:10:39 PM
Raid on Macho Grande.... Lest we forget  :salute 

 :lol

Striker never did recover from that fight.  Was a sad end to an otherwise glorious career.  Of course George Zipp never returned. <S>
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: BowHTR on May 29, 2011, 08:46:17 AM

P-82:  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,281001   :D
:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: LCADolby on May 29, 2011, 10:14:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08
 :uhoh
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: 321BAR on May 29, 2011, 12:02:25 PM
Was waiting for this.................. :rofl :rofl :aok

P-82:  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,281001   :D
one of the best :rofl
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: bortas1 on May 29, 2011, 12:08:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08
 :uhoh
:rofl
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Pigslilspaz on May 29, 2011, 02:36:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08
 :uhoh

I expect my new monitor and keyboard to be here by monday
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: LThunderpocket on May 29, 2011, 10:09:30 PM
just buy the game "Blazing Angels".i think u unlock it after the part when u fight at midway
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: M0nkey_Man on May 29, 2011, 10:27:37 PM
just buy the game "Blazing Angels".i think u unlock it after the part when u fight at midway
you get it on Rabaul :D

i just read that whole thread and im still laughing
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Tupac on May 29, 2011, 10:45:03 PM
The P-82 was used over Japan for live firing tests to see how easily the P-82 could avoid Japanese AAA.  There is a very respected member of the AH community who's uncle was a test pilot that died during one of these test flights over Yashikamijojo in 1945.

ack-ack

I think it was his Grandfather  :D
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: LThunderpocket on May 30, 2011, 04:21:23 AM
you get it on Rabaul :D

i just read that whole thread and im still laughing
what thread.
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: M0nkey_Man on May 30, 2011, 11:06:05 AM

P-82:  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,281001   :D
^that one
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: STEELE on May 30, 2011, 03:13:58 PM
Neigh!   But the twin 109...  :aok    :noid
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Pigslilspaz on May 30, 2011, 03:46:40 PM
109-Z ftw. Would love to see P-82 vs 109Z battles, without having to play 1946
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: branch37 on May 30, 2011, 03:58:23 PM
Over Macho Grande?
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 30, 2011, 04:32:25 PM
109-Z ftw. Would love to see P-82 vs 109Z battles, without having to play 1946

Early war plane vs. Didn't make it in time plane?

Kind of lopsided, isn't it?



wrongway
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Lusche on May 30, 2011, 04:38:32 PM
Early war plane vs. Didn't make it in time plane?

Which one would be an "early war" plane in your opinion?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Tyrannis on May 30, 2011, 04:54:27 PM
Early war plane vs. Didn't make it in time plane?

Kind of lopsided, isn't it?



wrongway
the 109-Z is just a twin 109 in the game. basically a copy of the twin mustang they took 2 109s and combined them by one wing.  you can look em up on yahoo images.
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Tupac on May 30, 2011, 06:36:18 PM
the 109-Z is just a twin 109 in the game. basically a copy of the twin mustang they took 2 109s and combined them by one wing.  you can look em up on yahoo images.

You cant copy something that didnt exist at the time?
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Tyrannis on May 30, 2011, 06:39:16 PM
You cant copy something that didnt exist at the time?
i dont think the 109Z was a REAL plane, was it?

i thought it was created soley for that game, kinda like a "secret missions" type of plane that they made so the axis would have a twin ac like the mustang.
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: iron650 on May 30, 2011, 06:48:31 PM
The "z" model was adbandoned as a prototype. On my resource it says the F-82 never made it to combat and the project was cancelled.
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 30, 2011, 07:12:13 PM
On my resource it says the F-82 never made it to combat and the project was cancelled.

The F-82 wasn't cancelled.  The Air Defense Command replaced their P-61s with the F-82 and it also went on to see action in the Korean War, being credited with the first three North Korean kills.

ack-ack
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: iron650 on May 30, 2011, 07:13:45 PM
The F-82 wasn't cancelled.  The Air Defense Command replaced their P-61s with the F-82 and it also went on to see action in the Korean War, being credited with the first three North Korean kills.

ack-ack

It said something about getting cancelled, but also said something about them getting MiGs and a few sorties as bomber escort.
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 31, 2011, 02:17:20 AM
It said something about getting cancelled, but also said something about them getting MiGs and a few sorties as bomber escort.

If your resources contradicts itself then it's really not that good of a resource.  No, the F-82 did not score any kills against any MiGs nor did they act as bomber escorts.  The F-82's early mission was to provide air cover during the early days of the Korean War when the US/UN forces where in head long retreat down Korea and then as ground support and then later on doing night time interdiction missions until replaced by the B-26.

F-82s scored a total of 4 kills: Yak 11, Yak 9 and 2x La-7s.

ack-ack
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: BnZs on May 31, 2011, 02:48:10 AM
I've always wondered what would happen if the two pilots had a disagreement over tactics in the midst of a dogfight...
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Rino on May 31, 2011, 01:52:59 PM
     Apparently that was only a problem in the E model, the F and Gs had a radar officer instead of a copilot.

http://www.boeing.com/history/bna/p82.htm (http://www.boeing.com/history/bna/p82.htm)
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: cut67 on May 31, 2011, 06:43:44 PM
+1
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 31, 2011, 06:54:47 PM
     Apparently that was only a problem in the E model, the F and Gs had a radar officer instead of a copilot.

http://www.boeing.com/history/bna/p82.htm (http://www.boeing.com/history/bna/p82.htm)

Who was the old AW player who's father used to fly F-82s for the Air Defense Command?  Wasn't it -HR-?

ack-ack
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Scotty55OEFVet on May 31, 2011, 07:16:14 PM
:rofl   :lol  i'm willing to bet good money he can't find a single instance of a full squadron or combat involvement...


 :aok :bhead+1
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: iron650 on May 31, 2011, 07:18:26 PM
I've always wondered what would happen if the two pilots had a disagreement over tactics in the midst of a dogfight...

It would split into two P-51s and they would follow their ideas.  :lol

+1
Title: Re: P-82 twin mustang
Post by: Scotty55OEFVet on May 31, 2011, 07:19:17 PM
"The North American F-82 Twin Mustang was the last American piston-engine fighter ordered into production by the United States Air Force. Based on the P-51 Mustang, the F-82 was originally designed as a long-range escort fighter in World War II, however the war ended well before the first production units were operational, so its postwar role changed to that of night-fighting."

WIKI..."However the War ENDED BEFORE the first [production units were available"
 :rolleyes: