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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Seanaldinho on May 31, 2011, 10:39:40 PM
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Think about it a tank commander could easily have said over his radio "enemy tank at _____ direction heading ______"
So I imply that in the gun reticule you have an extra type of "round" where if you line the reticule up and click "fire" on an enemy tank a small flag appears over their turret . Within a minute or 2 the flag disappears. Maybe the amount of marks you get per sortie is limited maybe not.
Flame on. :D
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thought that's what voice comms was for? :headscratch:
don't remember seeing references to "flag rounds" ...have to recheck the ordnance manuals for that... :D
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There was a movie once where the oddball of a tank commander fired paint rounds to scare enemy tanks. Does anyone know that movie??? ;) Maybe that is what the OP wants????
Regardless, I vote NO. They didnt have anything but a radio back then. No SAT images, not night vision, no laser range finders, just some blokes watermelon chatting on radios. :D
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Kellys Heroes
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Kellys Heroes
Maybe I wasnt sharp enough with my sarcasm. :headscratch: :D
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Maybe I wasnt sharp enough with my sarcasm. :headscratch: :D
it cut right thru the air right over his head...
second swipe was a little duller, tho'
:bolt:
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-1, as Gyrene said, that's what vox is for.
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I intended this more to compensate for the fact that the average tank had 3 people looking outside, driver gunner and commander. With only one set of eyes per tank in game and limited zoom this could help with target acquisition. Also tank commanders had more reference points then we do, yea we have trees and buildings but they all look alike.
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I intended this more to compensate for the fact that the average tank had 3 people looking outside, driver gunner and commander. With only one set of eyes per tank in game and limited zoom this could help with target acquisition. Also tank commanders had more reference points then we do, yea we have trees and buildings but they all look alike.
in "battle mode" the tank was buttoned up tight...driver had limited fov through a small portal without magnification positioned in the hull in front of him, just enough to navigate...gunner would be looking through the gunsight at the same area as the tank commander.
here's the tricky part...think about this...if you can't see a tank sized object, how would a little flag help you spot it any better? unless of course your talking about a neon flag much bigger than the tank...but then wouldn't that be seriously mario world gamey?
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You've got smoke rounds in the Panzer IV...
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here's the tricky part...think about this...if you can't see a tank sized object, how would a little flag help you spot it any better? unless of course your talking about a flag much bigger than the tank...but then wouldn't that be seriously mario world gamey?
Well for instance if your in a "smaller " tank like the M8 and you have eyes on a target like a tiger you cant really hope to do much from more them fifty feet. So you inform your fellow tankers " im marking a tiger _____ distance from you".
The flag is just a small red flag that sticks out above the treeline. ( if the tank is moving the flag doesnt move though)
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I intended this more to compensate for the fact that the average tank had 3 people looking outside, driver gunner and commander. With only one set of eyes per tank in game and limited zoom this could help with target acquisition. Also tank commanders had more reference points then we do, yea we have trees and buildings but they all look alike.
The field of view is very small for the all the crew members. Very small. The TC is really the only one with his head on a swivel, via open hatch, cupola views, or periscope thingy. :)
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Well for instance if your in a "smaller " tank like the M8 and you have eyes on a target like a tiger you cant really hope to do much from more them fifty feet. So you inform your fellow tankers " im marking a tiger _____ distance from you".
The flag is just a small red flag that sticks out above the treeline. ( if the tank is moving the flag doesnt move though)
you really want something like this, only bigger when people are asking for more realistic things?
(http://img.alibaba.com/wsphoto/v0/403838305/Children-Bicycle-flag.jpg)
it would still have to be very large and neon like an icon...and if it doesn't move with the vehicle, what good would it do? i'm playing devil's advocate here... :devil ...if you're with other tankers, it comes down to understanding the tools you have at your disposal, vox, map and tank commanders view with magnified view...say you do spot an enemy vehicle hidden and you want to direct others in your area to it...a quick look around to check relative positions of the friendlies to the enemy vehicle and direction the friendly vehicles are facing compared to you and call it out to each friendly you want to involve using relative positions and ranges.
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I understand your point and it is a valid one but i just want to add a bit more of a "team" aspect to it where some people are driving around finding the enemy targets that are slowing you up and having a few people on a hill taking them out.
So I see both sides and you bring up many valid points.
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Lately Pyro and I have been thinking of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDcB0pSUYOI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDcB0pSUYOI)
HiTech
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I think we should be able to exit our tank, run over to the enema tank and write "ENEMA TANK!!!" on it's side with a window paint pen. Then of course we should be allowed to go back to our tsank and wait for a friendly to kill the marked tank.
:noid
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HiTech I like the idea! My only question is how would you have the system set up? What would it actually do? An if we got something like this would it be viable to have (please don't hurt me!) the PBY-5A mark a CV?
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There was a movie once where the oddball of a tank commander fired paint rounds to scare enemy tanks. Does anyone know that movie??? ;) Maybe that is what the OP wants????
Regardless, I vote NO. They didnt have anything but a radio back then. No SAT images, not night vision, no laser range finders, just some blokes watermelon chatting on radios. :D
I need to fix the pic in my sig I think.
It wasn't to scare tanks. It was to "paint pretty pictures".
The speakers to play really loud music was to scare them.
wrongway
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flares?
they could burn for a minute or two then die out.
The British night bomber force did all sorts of marking with pathfinders. They got so good they could mark a target that was covered in cloud and put an X where the buffs needed to bomb. (Guy Gibson, Enemy coast ahead)
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Lately Pyro and I have been thinking of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDcB0pSUYOI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDcB0pSUYOI)
HiTech
That plane could work as aerial recon and then have the M8 driving around as vehicle recon. So you get the best of both worlds and the M8 takes on teh role it was designed for, scouting.
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Lately Pyro and I have been thinking of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDcB0pSUYOI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDcB0pSUYOI)
HiTech
HOLY CHIT! I saw one of these flying at fantasy of flight not too long ago and pulled off the road to watch it. I had no idea what it was but my god was it awesome. Very maneuverable and almost hovered down to earth. It had German paint and I tried to take cell phone video of it but it didn't come out. Anyway thanks for posting that link. Now I can stop looking for what it was.
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The Smoke round was used to mark enemy positions often.
But +1
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The Smoke round was used to mark enemy positions often.
But +1
I think that applied more to non moving things (dugouts, trenches, MG nests) that couldnt take advantage of the smoke like an enemy tank might.
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Think about it a tank commander could easily have said over his radio "enemy tank at _____ direction heading ______"
So I imply that in the gun reticule you have an extra type of "round" where if you line the reticule up and click "fire" on an enemy tank a small flag appears over their turret . Within a minute or 2 the flag disappears. Maybe the amount of marks you get per sortie is limited maybe not.
Flame on. :D
:huh :bhead
Um, why dont we just have little Pointers that have the range and dir NME tanks are sitting as well...firing a rnd to mark a tank is about as useful as a soldier yelling in the middle of the night that "he sees something coming." All that would do is give the NME Tank you were firing on the opportunity to firre an accurate round right back at ya before you get the chance to...it gives away your position
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:huh :bhead
Um, why dont we just have little Pointers that have the range and dir NME tanks are sitting as well...firing a rnd to mark a tank is about as useful as a soldier yelling in the middle of the night that "he sees something coming." All that would do is give the NME Tank you were firing on the opportunity to firre an accurate round right back at ya before you get the chance to...it gives away your position
Or an ally diving on the enemy while you're trying to get the bandit. True it does give your position especially when you're trying to hide.
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you really want something like this, only bigger when people are asking for more realistic things?
(http://img.alibaba.com/wsphoto/v0/403838305/Children-Bicycle-flag.jpg)
it would still have to be very large and neon like an icon...and if it doesn't move with the vehicle, what good would it do? i'm playing devil's advocate here... :devil ...if you're with other tankers, it comes down to understanding the tools you have at your disposal, vox, map and tank commanders view with magnified view...say you do spot an enemy vehicle hidden and you want to direct others in your area to it...a quick look around to check relative positions of the friendlies to the enemy vehicle and direction the friendly vehicles are facing compared to you and call it out to each friendly you want to involve using relative positions and ranges.
I was looking for the humor picture of one Dutch infantry man towing another guy with a trailer mounted MG
that looks close to your shot. I couldn't find it, but check out what turns up with you Google machine gun bicycle :rofl
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3013/2642778614_a66618d211.jpg)
(http://www.free-images.org.uk/military/home-guard-bicycle.jpg)
(http://www.pedalinghistory.com/Images/PHMil01.jpg)
(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/3/15/a380c79e-03df-4ea7-9808-64ed734c5d24.jpg)
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:huh :bhead
Um, why dont we just have little Pointers that have the range and dir NME tanks are sitting as well...firing a rnd to mark a tank is about as useful as a soldier yelling in the middle of the night that "he sees something coming." All that would do is give the NME Tank you were firing on the opportunity to firre an accurate round right back at ya before you get the chance to...it gives away your position
No you misunderstood the gunsight is simply for aiming the device no actual round is fired. It is simply the media used to aim your little "marker/flag"