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Title: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: seano on June 03, 2011, 01:32:27 AM
SINCE WE GOT THE B-29 WHICH EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHERS SAID WE'D NEVER GET....... LETS LOSE THE ENEMY ICONS. NOTHING WORSE THAN BEING ALL CAMO BUT KNOWING YOU HAVE A BIG RED P-51 SIGN FLYING NEXT TO YOU. MAYBE NOOBS COULD HAVE THEM FOR THE 2 WEEKS BUT IT WOULD BE AWESOME TO NOT HAVE THEM.
  OR, HOW ABOUT IF YOU TURN OFF ENEMY ICONS ON YOUR OWN , NO ENEMY WILL BE ABLE TO SEE YOUR ICON? FAIR IS FAIR RIGHT?

    STRATS: NICE FAT TARGETS, FUN TO BOMB, FUN TO DEFEND. HOW ABOUT ATTACHING SOME PLANE FACTORIES TO THEM LIKE THE OLD AIR WARRIOR STYLE. "KILL THE SPIT FACTORY" . ALL OF THESE WOULD MAKE THE GAME MORE REAL. IM NOT EVEN GOING TO START ON THE SPLIT ARENA THINGY BUT US OLD DIEHARDS WOULD LOVE 1 ARENA BACK.

  I KNOW I KNOW, HITECH WOULD LOSE PLAYERS, BUT HE WOULD GAIN THE RESPECT OF PLAYERS LOOKING FOR THAT "REAL" GAME. AND MORE WOULD BE SURE TO COME OR COME BACK EVEN.  AGREE?

           SEANO
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: Raphael on June 03, 2011, 01:34:38 AM
yeah i also like that idea, you can press alt i and keep the friendly icons, i would like for everyone to have enemy icons off as default BUT you have to think of the people with smaller monitors, lower quality pcs and etc... this would give unfair advantage to anyone with a higher resolution pc.

I mean... i DO like the idea of having no enemy icons, but this is not good for everyone. depends on the screen resolution and stuff...
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: GNucks on June 03, 2011, 01:36:03 AM
Well there's your problem:

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/08/8.16.06---capsoff.jpg)

Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: Raphael on June 03, 2011, 01:37:06 AM
Well there's your problem:

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/08/8.16.06---capsoff.jpg)


?  :huh
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: Karnak on June 03, 2011, 01:39:23 AM
First, try not yelling.

Second, I don't think it is a good idea to simulate a bunch of legally blind (i.e. could not pass the vision test needed for a driver's license) pilots, which is what a no icons environment means, even if it is just no enemy icons.

What removing icons would be great for is the players who do not wish to fight.

I do agree that icons make Situational Awareness at range easier than in reality, but at short range the limitations of computer interfaces make Situational Awareness harder than in reality.  Removing icons makes Situational Awareness harder in all cases that it is in reality.
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: guncrasher on June 03, 2011, 03:16:35 AM
You guys are more than welcome to have icons on friends only.  it is an option available right now.  show some leadership and start flying like that  :devil, rest of us tards would rather have icons.

semp
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: Tyrannis on June 03, 2011, 04:29:09 AM
Well there's your problem:

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/08/8.16.06---capsoff.jpg)


(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/capslock.jpg)
 :D
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: The Fugitive on June 03, 2011, 07:54:27 AM
SINCE WE GOT THE B-29 WHICH EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHERS SAID WE'D NEVER GET....... LETS LOSE THE ENEMY ICONS. NOTHING WORSE THAN BEING ALL CAMO BUT KNOWING YOU HAVE A BIG RED P-51 SIGN FLYING NEXT TO YOU. MAYBE NOOBS COULD HAVE THEM FOR THE 2 WEEKS BUT IT WOULD BE AWESOME TO NOT HAVE THEM.
  OR, HOW ABOUT IF YOU TURN OFF ENEMY ICONS ON YOUR OWN , NO ENEMY WILL BE ABLE TO SEE YOUR ICON? FAIR IS FAIR RIGHT?

    STRATS: NICE FAT TARGETS, FUN TO BOMB, FUN TO DEFEND. HOW ABOUT ATTACHING SOME PLANE FACTORIES TO THEM LIKE THE OLD AIR WARRIOR STYLE. "KILL THE SPIT FACTORY" . ALL OF THESE WOULD MAKE THE GAME MORE REAL. IM NOT EVEN GOING TO START ON THE SPLIT ARENA THINGY BUT US OLD DIEHARDS WOULD LOVE 1 ARENA BACK.

  I KNOW I KNOW, HITECH WOULD LOSE PLAYERS, BUT HE WOULD GAIN THE RESPECT OF PLAYERS LOOKING FOR THAT "REAL" GAME. AND MORE WOULD BE SURE TO COME OR COME BACK EVEN.  AGREE?

           SEANO

Go fly in the AvA
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: gyrene81 on June 03, 2011, 08:45:25 AM
wouldn't work in the big romper rooms...all the kids would get mad losing the 3.5 mile ultra vision then quit...now you have to be honest, you only want this because you're getting owned in your runstang.

i do like the no enemy icons but gotta be realistic in expectations...it isn't for everyone...do what fugitive said, go to the ava.
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: LCADolby on June 03, 2011, 08:49:58 AM
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f385/xxREXxx_01/capslock.jpg)
 :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLMMx3MRi0s

 :D
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: Soulyss on June 03, 2011, 10:56:35 AM
Go fly in the AvA

Yep, go try the Axis vs Allies arena they typically have enemy icons disabled and friendly icons reduced to 3K.
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: Krusty on June 03, 2011, 11:34:42 AM
Another brainwashed zombie that drank the UbiSoft no-icons Kool-Aid.


EDIT: The AvA can be fun. My comment is based on the tone and content of the original post, not the "go try the AvA" comments after it.
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: Reaper90 on June 03, 2011, 11:44:20 AM
Go fly in the AvA

^^THIS^^

AND HAVING YOUR CAPS LOCK ON MAKES YOU ANNOYING AND ENSURES NO ONE WILL LISTEN TO YOU OR TAKE ANYTHING YOU SAY SERIOUSLY.  :aok
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: LLogann on June 03, 2011, 11:50:18 AM
Nobody has mentioned inflation yet?   :headscratch:

In this case, perhaps it is a touch of deflation though. 
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: jimson on June 03, 2011, 11:53:36 AM
Seano, we would welcome you to the AvA.

We have a strat war going on this week. Come help us populate the place.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,314093.0.html
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: PFactorDave on June 03, 2011, 12:09:27 PM
Nobody has mentioned inflation yet?   :headscratch:

In this case, perhaps it is a touch of deflation though. 

Stagflation maybe?
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: badhorse on June 03, 2011, 12:25:41 PM
Speaking as someone that gets shot down; a lot.   I don't think the fact that they saw my icon had as much to do with their success as did a need for improvement of my abilities do.

So a -1 on the icons but any more strat targets would be welcomed.
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: badhorse on June 03, 2011, 12:28:14 PM
As someone who gets shot down; a lot. I don't think seeing my icon had as much to do with their success as did a need to improve my own ACM and shooting skills.

-1 on the icons but more strat targets are always welcome.
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: Penguin on June 03, 2011, 12:56:28 PM
I like the idea of having icons be a tactical decision-

If you turn them on, you can see others' icons, but they can see yours, too
If you turn them off, you can't see others' icons, but they can't see yours either

It would add a whole new level of thought to the game.  It would also allow people to keep the icons if they want them, but give others the option of being stealthy.

-Penguin
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: Krusty on June 03, 2011, 01:39:24 PM
So you want others to fly as if they were legally blind just so you can try to sneak up and shoot somebody that can't see you?

Real life is a lot different from how a computer screen looks. Even real film footage is a lot better than what we see, just with general movements, colors, saturatinos, highlights, resolution of details, etc.


No-icons is a false delusion pretending to be realistic. It's not realistic. Not in the least.
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: badhorse on June 03, 2011, 02:32:53 PM
Sorry about the double post. I got an error message from my computer at work and didn't think it made it through.
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: Reaper90 on June 03, 2011, 03:50:57 PM
I like the idea of having icons be a tactical decision-

If you turn them on, you can see others' icons, but they can see yours, too
If you turn them off, you can't see others' icons, but they can't see yours either

It would add a whole new level of thought to the game.  It would also allow people to keep the icons if they want them, but give others the option of being stealthy.

-Penguin

And how exactly, in the MA where you can fly any bird from the planeset, would one determine whether the Niki, P-51, or 109 that was in front of them was a friendly or a foe? Part of the icon is the chesspiece that, along with the color of the icon, denotes the relative level of hostility that one may expect from said otherwise unidentifyable aircraft.
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: Karnak on June 03, 2011, 05:03:56 PM
And how exactly, in the MA where you can fly any bird from the planeset, would one determine whether the Niki, P-51, or 109 that was in front of them was a friendly or a foe? Part of the icon is the chesspiece that, along with the color of the icon, denotes the relative level of hostility that one may expect from said otherwise unidentifyable aircraft.
In his proposal he said enemy icons only.  Friendlies would still have icons.

His idea has enough bad merits and making up flaws that aren't in it is not needed.
Title: Re: MY 2 CENTS
Post by: ink on June 03, 2011, 05:11:11 PM
^^THIS^^

AND HAVING YOUR CAPS LOCK ON MAKES YOU ANNOYING AND ENSURES NO ONE WILL LISTEN TO YOU OR TAKE ANYTHING YOU SAY SERIOUSLY.  :aok

whats that you said.....














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