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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: badhorse on June 04, 2011, 12:32:08 AM
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Flew this airplane a couple of times tonight. Even managed to get a couple of kills. I has a very formidable gun package. Although it carries MG, 20mm and 30mm ammo, the counter in the cockpit just says MG and Cannon. So presumably the 20 and 30 mm rounds are counted together. Is there a way to tell how many 30mm rounds you have available as they are used?
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When the number starts dropping at a slower rate, you're out :D. Also, I think the 20's have different rpg.
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The quick answer is no but trust me, you'll know when the 30's are gone.
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The 30mm were mounted in the outer wings. The outer round counters on the cockpit panel are for these guns. The inner round counters on the cockpit panel are for the wing root guns. (from the A-8 manual)
If this is not how it is then some changes have to be made.
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The 30mm were mounted in the outer wings. The outer round counters on the cockpit panel are for these guns. The inner round counters on the cockpit panel are for the wing root guns. (from the A-8 manual)
If this is not how it is then some changes have to be made.
As far as I can see there are just two counters. One for MG and one for Cannon. If I click the button on my joystick that would cycle through the load out, nothing changes. So I'm thinking all the cannon rounds are lumped together.
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Milo doesn't know what he's talking about, or is talking about the REAL plane in real life (which did have ammo counters).
In AH the cannons are linked both to the secondary trigger.
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Milo doesn't know what he's talking about, or is talking about the REAL plane in real life (which did have ammo counters).
In AH the cannons are linked both to the secondary trigger.
And you have a reading problem. :)
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And you have a reading problem. :)
looks like you do this time... :lol he did say "or is talking about the REAL plane in real life (which did have ammo counters)".
to the op...the real 190a8 instrument panel had 4 ammo counters at the top left...there is one with a red outline that was for the mk108 rounds if the plane had the mk108s installed. the ammo counters used what looked like white sliders that would decrease as ammo was used.
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It really would be nice to slave the 20mm and 13mm together as primary and leave the 30's alone as secondarys. :pray
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It really would be nice to slave the 20mm and 13mm together as primary and leave the 30's alone as secondarys. :pray
That would be better but having a counter for each would be ideal.
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looks like you do this time... :lol he did say "or is talking about the REAL plane in real life (which did have ammo counters)".
LOL, I said 'from the A-8 manual' which should have made it absolutely clear I was talking about the real a/c. :rolleyes:
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At no point in the discussion was this about the manual or the real plane. It was about in-game and the ammo counters we have. From the context you were totally off the wall, hence why I added that bit "or talking about the real plane"
From context you were way off topic or flat out wrong :)
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In real 190's all 3 banks of guns could be fired alone, or together
Here's hoping! :cheers:
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At no point in the discussion was this about the manual or the real plane. It was about in-game and the ammo counters we have. From the context you were totally off the wall, hence why I added that bit "or talking about the real plane"
From context you were way off topic or flat out wrong :)
Just telling how the REAL a/c did it. Nothing more, nothing less krusty. :neener:
Steele, on the real (bolded so krusty doesn't get confused again) a/c there was one button (front of grip) that fired the cowl guns and the inner wing cannons. Another button (top of grip) fired the outer wing cannons. Press both to get all 6 guns firing.
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Just telling how the REAL a/c did it. Nothing more, nothing less krusty. :neener:
Steele, on the real (bolded so krusty doesn't get confused again) a/c there was one button (front of grip) that fired the cowl guns and the inner wing cannons. Another button (top of grip) fired the outer wing cannons. Press both to get all 6 guns firing.
I hate you.
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Just telling how the REAL a/c did it. Nothing more, nothing less krusty. :neener:
Steele, on the real (bolded so krusty doesn't get confused again) a/c there was one button (front of grip) that fired the cowl guns and the inner wing cannons. Another button (top of grip) fired the outer wing cannons. Press both to get all 6 guns firing.
Even better! I bet HTC could make it fire this way in 5 minutes flat! Sure would be a nice EZ change for added realism, and while they have the file cracked open, get the weight down to where it should be. :AOK
Edit: I bet most of us 190 guys would be happy to just have the guns fire as U described when carrying the 30 mils, even if it still fires the AH way when carrying all 20 mil. (Save those taters for sure shots)
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I seem to recall you could switch the 20mms off if you only wanted to fire the MGs.
While it would be nice to save some of those 30mms, why? You want to use them most. I think folks get the impression they are only for bombers, and want to only use 20mm for fighters, but frankly that's the wrong idea. I use them on fighters all the time. They hit quite readily and a single fireball is all you need to see to know you've hit your prey.
Funny thing is I seem to get more fighter kills off 30mm in the 190a8 than in the 109K4 or G14. The trajectory seems easier.
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I seem to recall you could switch the 20mms off if you only wanted to fire the MGs.
You remember wrong, as usual. In the real a/c, the cowl and wing root guns are on the same circuit.
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Yes, but I thought there was a breaker where you could flip off certain gun banks so they wouldn't fire when you pressed that single trigger. Such a thing is common in a number of other craft and I thought (again "thought" -- not totally sure) you could do the same in the FW.
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Well, according to electrical diagram: Gerätebank rechts, P2 for MG17, P1 for wing root 151/20 and P? for wing 151/20. I think those are the circuit breakers and were not usually used to select weapons, just to power them on or off for loading and maintenance. The actual arming switches are on the same panel as ammo counters (SZKK 4) and they are usually grouped in the same manner as the weapons are fired, that is fuselage+wingroot together and outboard separately.
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The quick answer is no but trust me, you'll know when the 30's are gone.
Agree, the Distinctive thump of 30s is heard for I think the first 200-250 rounds you will fire through that particular gun package. As you get to arond 450-48 cannon rnds remaining, you are now at the point where you only have 20mm left. Im sure most would agree with this statement. And it does show only 2 tyoes of rounds....MG on top and Cannon on bottom and its more or less just listening to what is being fired lol. I would say ask BlackAdr if you want to know more on the A8, he would be the one I see flying it most.
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I seem to recall you could switch the 20mms off if you only wanted to fire the MGs.
Me too, Krusty. In fact, I've read 190A7 pilot reports of firing MG's only to get a good bead on an enemy