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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: LCADolby on June 05, 2011, 06:38:42 PM
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How the buggering hell did you guys make the transition from twist neck sticks to actual peddles?!
My mind is fudged when it comes to this. The past 3 days have been painful, I've constantly been muddling up which way the rudder turns and have got myself killed countless times trying to twist the neck of my new CH Fighter Stick.
How'd you guys manage!? I'm about 2 steps from a real -> :furious :mad: :bhead :cry
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just takes some time, my first three years was with a twisty, took me about 2 months before it was second nature.
dont give up :aok
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How the buggering hell did you guys make the transition from twist neck sticks to actual peddles?!
My mind is fudged when it comes to this. The past 3 days have been painful, I've constantly been muddling up which way the rudder turns and have got myself killed countless times trying to twist the neck of my new CH Fighter Stick.
How'd you guys manage!? I'm about 2 steps from a real -> :furious :mad: :bhead :cry
For me, having real life flight experience, the pedals have always seemed natural. I could never get used to the twisty stick.
Stick it out. It will be worth it in the end.
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For me, having real life flight experience, the pedals have always seemed natural. I could never get used to the twisty stick.
Stick it out. It will be worth it in the end.
yeh, this. After flying real aircraft, just the thought of a twisty stick makes me head hurt. :rofl
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Will take several weeks to sink in, what I found help is I don't rest my whole foot in the pedal (CH set here) instead put the heels of my foot on the base just in front of the pedal itself and then rest the balls of my foot and toes on the pedal, I found it helps me make more fine control inputs than having my feet resting completely on the pedal.
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I never used a twisty stick. :p
That said, I suspect I am not nearly as aggressive with my rudder usage as I should be.
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Try flying lazy 8's while using the pedals to keep the ball centered.
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I went to pedals about a year & a half ago. I was ready to throw them out the window for the first 2 months. They absolutely sucked! I finally got used to them & couldn't imagine having to go back to a twisty stick now. Stick with it. It will be worth it in the end. :cheers:
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Took me 3 months before I stopped ramming my targets.
Thing is you have to get used to them, THEN you have to adjust/teak them for best performance. You have to scale them so that you get that fine-tuned aim going. Don't want to have the nose swinging left and right past a target, right?
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I use rudder pedals during the day and a twisty when I get home. Not easy to be switching (I need to buy a set of pedals) but it's not that big of a deal, you get used to both.
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It took me about 3 weeks once you get the hang of them you will never go back to a twisty.
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Learned them in 2 weeks...
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Learned them in 2 weeks...
flew with a twisty stick for 7 yrs before peds. :joystick:
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Are you asking us how to not be a gamer, and be a pilot?
We can't answer that for you.
(right now I'm stuck with a rudder on the stick <my [pedals broke>... I feel so incredibly uncomfortable, unnatural, I cannot even begin to describe it.)
If you don't have rudder pedals, you aren't flying!
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Its not the peddles you are getting old :old:
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took me a couple of tours to get accustomed....at first I scaled them heavily and as each day/week went by I changed it till I was comfortable....at first I was all over the show...the next thing I had to get out of was not taking my foot off the pedal...would wonder why I was flying slow and sideways and then realize my foot was still fully ruddered hahaha....that last part I still find myself doing from time to time...it actually took longer to get this sorted than to learn how to use the pedals....but now...I can't do jack with a twisty..
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Having gone from TM pedals to twisty (first a craptastic logitech, and then and ever since, a MS FFB2) I do miss the fine control pedals provide, especially when you want to hold a specific yaw - harder to do with a twisty.
I found pedals intuitive to use - just push which foot which way you want to yaw. I've adjusted to the twisty, but in turn it has lessened my ability to fly well one of my favorite rides - the P-38. Need to pony up for a gameport to usb adapter for my pedals and see if AH likes that combo.
Stick with the pedals, you'll love them and can't believe the difference they're going to make. :joystick:
I've heard pro/con about CH pedals, but that was way back. Now? I dunno. Does thrustmaster still exist even? Except for a weak return spring (easily replaceable) it worked like a charm and was wider than the CH pedals of the day.
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flew with a twisty stick for 7 yrs before peds. :joystick:
I dont think I could ever do that....lol
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Mouse, mouse wheel, and the ASD keys :aok
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What does the rudder do ?
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What does the rudder do ?
Gives you a place to rest your feet.
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As with anything in this game, a change takes a long time to become second nature. As the others have said, it'll get better after the initial unfamiliarity, and once you get used to them, there are a lot of things that are easier to do than with a twisty, like keep a constant rudder through a maneuver independent of your stick inputs.
I had been flying with pedals for around a year and a half, and had to use a twisty at one point away from home. It amused me greatly because every time I'd go to bank the plane, I'd kick the floor expecting a rudder pedal to be there.
Wiley.
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I don't think I could ever get used to a twisty stick! I'm not a RL pilot but have used rudder pedals since I first started in Air Warrior in 1998.... :)
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Stick time my friend.... stick time.
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Go fly a helicopter in Microsoft FS... you'll learn real fast!
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Go fly a helicopter in Microsoft FS... you'll learn real fast!
I can imagine that would very quickly educate your brain to tell you which pedal to press.
As a kid I used home made trollies (karts, soap box?) when your feet are on the front axle to steer i.e. left foot forward to go right. Later I learnt to fly gliders and recall the struggle I had keeping the thing straight on takeoff for the first couple of launches. - I very quickly got used to the "reversed" input - It sort of focused my attention!
Driving an M3 or jeep around (offline) might help.
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I prefer the pedals as well. And as been said, being a pilot in RL helps.
But, I've found that having pedals aren't as big a help as I first thought they would be. For one thing, for most flying you don't really need much if any rudder input. I've found the ball stays fairly centered most of the time.
However there are times when having the pedals are extremely helpful. Taking off or landing on a turning CV for example. A breeze with pedals, can be difficult with a twisty sitck. And when you want to skid (cross control) to lose altitude having pedals makes it much easier.
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When I first started taking flying lessons I had been using a twisty stick in AW for a long time. When I taxied my nephews 172 I initially had to sit on my hands to prevent the urge to go for the Cessna's twisty rudder!!! :airplane:
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Its uncommonly natural to want to use your feet....you drive a car and you had to learn how to move your feet without looking right? Same thing just in a virtual airplane. Keep working at it.
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I don't think I could ever get used to a twisty stick! I'm not a RL pilot but have used rudder pedals since I first started in Air Warrior in 1998.... :)
The same as flossy. The only way I can fly I went to a friends house that had a twisty and could fly at all.
It will come to you keep at it and you will say how did I fly with that twisty. You may say let me change the axes because it seems backwards but don't it will only hurt in the long run. You will get it
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took me about 2-3 weeks before it clicked.
Just keep your windows locked until it does :aok
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I never liked my twisty stick or the analog rocker on my throttle for rudder. I bought pedals and loved them from day 1.