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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: curry1 on June 12, 2011, 03:42:42 PM
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My Catalyst Control Center has been acting up. I have spent countless hours trying to get it to work uninstalling and downloading new and old versions. I am done. Does anyone have any know how about Tray Tools. I have seen some websites to download it but they don't really seem legit where is the actual website that the creator made?
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The programmer is actually a Ruskie and has his "official" site on 3DGuru.com.
ATI Tray Tools at 3DGuru.com (http://www.guru3d.com/article/ati-tray-tools-/).
Before you install it, make sure that you've disabled Catalyst Control Center. You don't have to uninstall it (it might create some additional, non-needed headaches if you try), just make sure that in your startup programs that you've disabled CCC from starting at boot up. Now that you've disabled CCC from starting up at boot up, make sure that you've also got it closed (right click on the CCC icon in your SysTray and select Exit). Now install ATI Tray Tools and follow the onscreen instructions to install it.
After you've installed it, there are something you may want to disable in ATI Tray Tools, namely the onscreen display (it shows your FPS in the corner of your screen). Right click on the ATI Tray Tools icon on the SysTray and select Tools & Options, then select Onscreen Display. Next, in the General Settings, uncheck Enable OnScreen Display.
If you have specific questions on how to use ATI Tray Tools, I can try and help you out some more.
ack-ack
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Thank you Ack-Ack for helping Curry out. I was talking to him last night about this and was hoping you would respond. :rock
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Not a problem at all, especially since curry1 promised me a virgin ewe for helping him.
ack-ack
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How much of an improvement will I see if i use this instead of catalyst?
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Does it support eyefinity and custom desktop setups with multiple monitors? I recall using it way back before eyefinity and I recall all the other options, but how about with recent developments?
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I think I remember Skuzzy saying NOT to use ATI tray tools with AH :headscratch:
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I think I remember Skuzzy saying NOT to use ATI tray tools with AH :headscratch:
no, he said the catalyst control center causes problems...he has referred people to the tray tools instead.
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been trying to install it... no go. It's screaming about drivers. Apparently it's a known Win7 issue....
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How much of an improvement will I see if i use this instead of catalyst?
It's less of a resource hog than CCC is and pretty much what you can do in CCC you can do in Tray Tools. It basically gives you more control over your video card settings than CCC allows.
Does it support eyefinity and custom desktop setups with multiple monitors? I recall using it way back before eyefinity and I recall all the other options, but how about with recent developments?
I believe it does but I don't use a multiple monitor setup so I've never really checked to see how well ATI Tray Tool supports multiple monitors. The beta version of ATI Tray Tools may have support for multiple monitors while the stable release version doesn't.
I think I remember Skuzzy saying NOT to use ATI tray tools with AH :headscratch:
Nope, Skuzzy hasn't said anything of the kind. He's like me in that he also recommends not using CCC (either uninstalling it or disabling it from starting at boot up) and using ATI Tray Tools instead.
ack-ack
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I use ATI Tray Tools V. 1.7.9.1531 (which I believe is the newest Beta Version) and ATI Driver V. 8.791 (which I believe is the 10.11 version of drivers).
I see they are up to 11.5 for AMD... Might be worth trying out. I go through AMD's website and select "custom downloads" and select "Driver ONLY". I do have a few strange anomalies maybe the updated driver will fix it.
This is using an ATI 5830 card with a single display.
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As of June 15th 2011, ATI Display drivers and ATI CCC just went to version 11.6
AMD Radeon™ Video Card Drivers for Windows 7 & Windows Vista 64 bit - OS
Individual Downloads Link:
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx#2
NOTE: these are ATI Reference Video Drivers, they will work but it is recommended to go to your ATI Video Cards Brand/Manufacturer's Website to download New Drivers that might work better for your particular branded Video Card
Note: the above link is for Windows 7 64 Bit or Vista 64 bit Operating Systems only
Link to AMD/ATI downloads page ( click this if you are using a different OS )
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/downloads.aspx
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as to ATI Catalyst Control Center ( aka CCC ) & ATI Tray Tools....
I was always under the impression that HTC / Skuzzy recommended installing the Video Driver only for your Video Card, and using Aces High's built in Graphics & Advanced Graphics Settings abilitys, instead of using CCC or Tray Tools
hope this helps
TC
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I updated to ATI 11.6 and when I did I did not install CCC, I went with ATI Tray Tools.
Doesn't look like it has the monitor setup or eyefinity setup. No big deal for the moment, as I'm not gaming on 3 monitors (yet). If I need to I can always go back to CCC when I next upgrade.
Maybe it's hidden and I'm just not sure where to look for it, but I didn't see it.
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I updated to ATI 11.6 and when I did I did not install CCC, I went with ATI Tray Tools.
Doesn't look like it has the monitor setup or eyefinity setup. No big deal for the moment, as I'm not gaming on 3 monitors (yet). If I need to I can always go back to CCC when I next upgrade.
Maybe it's hidden and I'm just not sure where to look for it, but I didn't see it.
It may be in the latest beta version while not in the current "stable release".
ack-ack
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Oooooh... I thought I read something about that, too. Oh well I'll stick it out. Not vital right now, until I get better monitors to use in gaming.
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I was always under the impression that HTC / Skuzzy recommended installing the Video Driver only for your Video Card, and using Aces High's built in Graphics & Advanced Graphics Settings abilitys, instead of using CCC or Tray Tools
You're correct. If the game has the advanced settings to allow for anti-aliasing, use the in game settings as opposed to forcing the settings through ATI Tray Tools or CCC. Otherwise, you're forcing your system to use more resources and could experience a loss of FPS as a result unless you have a really beefy system that can take the additional resource hits.
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for those of you with lets say a newer ATI card in the 48XX, 57XX, 58XX, 67XX, 68XX or newer range, that may have been having flickering while flying looking forward
or terrain flickering, or glitches while using the ATI 11.4 or ATI 11.5 drivers........
I am happy to report all that seems to have been fixed with this new ATI 11.6 Cat/display driver version........ to me is a difference like from Rain to Sunshine with what I was getting out of those 11.5 drivers.......
hope this helps
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TC
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I just updated to 11.6 yesterday. I haven't played AH yet. I was at 10.11 before so I'm glad to have bypassed that entire flickering issue altogether!
I will say this. On Microsoft FSX I had lost my bridges when I switched from Nvidia to ATI about a year ago. All the other graphics looked nice but the bridges had disappeared. Well they were there as I could crash into them, but they were invisible. No graphics setting in the world would restore them.
As a quick test after upgrading to 11.6 I loaded FSX and am happy to report that THE BRIDGES ARE BACK! Must have been a bug with the 10.XX driver versions! I also noticed some DirectX 10/11 features are now working such as ocean waves and some neat cloud effects I didn't have before. Also the performance is a lot smoother and less jittery. It looks like they did something right with this!
Hopefully I'll be online tonight to try out AH. I'm currently modding my G940 and waiting for a part before I'll be ready to fly.
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Hopefully I'll be online tonight to try out AH. I'm currently modding my G940 and waiting for a part before I'll be ready to fly.
how are you modding your G940?
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how are you modding your G940?
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I bought a controller board and rewired the throttle and rudder axes to run through it instead of through the Logitech's circuitry. I have the wiring all done, just waiting for the controller board to get here.
The controller board I chose was the Leo Bodnar's BU0836 (http://leobodnar.com/products/BU0836/). There is a more precise BU0836A available as well, but couldn't justify its extra cost especially without knowing the precision of Logitech's pots. I'd imagine you could find a used broken joystick and use its circuitry instead but the controller board makes things a lot easier.
Anyway I have a write-up ready to go, I'm just waiting for the part to come in so I can make sure everything works properly before posting it. I've already tested things with a multimeter and so far, so good! Here's a teaser pic:
(http://www.lca.ympsa.com/joystick/617.jpg)