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Title: Woah... trippy! Math + Life = ???
Post by: Lepape2 on June 20, 2011, 04:47:49 PM
Just watched this and I was like  :O and  :lol. Not that I believe everything he said, but its just funny how you can look at everything from a whole another perspective.
http://www.youtube.com/user/jordanduchnycz#p/a/u/0/vybaO0bYM0U (http://www.youtube.com/user/jordanduchnycz#p/a/u/0/vybaO0bYM0U)

He lost credibility in a couple of previous videos for me but whatever. Interesting view of the world.

To skuzzy: nothing remotely religious in this video.
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Post by: oakranger on June 20, 2011, 04:58:25 PM
OK, my head hurts.  Not a math or physics person.  I will stick to plants and animals.
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Post by: fbEagle on June 20, 2011, 05:42:28 PM
OK condensed simplified version
Everything in this universe with a fair amount of squinting and head turning / covering up one eye can be broken down into everything else. Steven Hawking explains it better i believe seems how this guys voice got too anoying to watch the whole thing.  :D
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Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 20, 2011, 05:45:50 PM
I'd be scratching my head if it hadn't exploded already  :D
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Post by: ink on June 20, 2011, 07:52:09 PM
very interesting stuff
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Post by: Plazus on June 20, 2011, 09:48:26 PM
Very interesting. It seems pretty convenient to slap a bunch of shapes together with some magic ratio to create a patchwork of complex designs. What I would like to know, however, is how we could use this knowledge to help us advance into outer space and help preserve our species. Or to prevent future wars, or to find alternate energy sources that no greedy corporation wants to buy its patent and put it away so no one sees it.
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Post by: MaSonZ on June 20, 2011, 10:02:43 PM
wish i had that much time and patience to gather all that info and understand it...
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Post by: flight17 on June 20, 2011, 10:44:20 PM
thats cool, might have to watch 1-9
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Post by: APDrone on June 20, 2011, 10:50:10 PM
Very cool.. Thanks!
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Post by: Krupinski on June 21, 2011, 01:36:59 AM
Didn't watch the whole thing...yet, but I got an A+ on a Golden Ration project in math class.  :D

Measure the distance between points on your body.. like your nose to your mouth or eyeline to your knees, everything comes close to 1.6.
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Post by: LThunderpocket on June 21, 2011, 09:14:01 AM
interesting....im just wondering how you stumbled upon it
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Post by: Penguin on June 21, 2011, 09:18:17 AM
I couldn't stand his voice.  Not even for a few seconds.

-Penguin
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Post by: RTHolmes on June 21, 2011, 10:03:11 AM
Measure the distance between points on your body.. like your nose to your mouth or eyeline to your knees, everything comes close to 1.6.

that works really well if you only choose to measure points on the body that will give a ratio of about 1.6 :aok
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Post by: Krupinski on June 21, 2011, 10:46:19 AM
that works really well if you only choose to measure points on the body that will give a ratio of about 1.6 :aok

Not everything is spot on, sure, but more than half will be close to a ratio of 1.6.
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Post by: RTHolmes on June 21, 2011, 10:51:07 AM
mmm I think you missed my point, but even so close is not close enough. the golden ratio isnt "about 1.6", it is very precisely defined. if the measured ratio isnt exactly phi (within measurement tolerances), its not phi.


edit: my point was that I could pick an infinite number of measurements on a human body which arent even close to phi. if you find a measurement which looks like phi, its because you ignored all the measurements which dont look like phi. it proves nothing.

edit2: try the finger measurements as shown in the video. if anyone can match the proposed ratios to within 1mm I'll eat my hat.
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Post by: Lepape2 on June 21, 2011, 11:53:24 AM
mmm I think you missed my point, but even so close is not close enough. the golden ratio isnt "about 1.6", it is very precisely defined. if the measured ratio isnt exactly phi (within measurement tolerances), its not phi.


edit: my point was that I could pick an infinite number of measurements on a human body which arent even close to phi. if you find a measurement which looks like phi, its because you ignored all the measurements which dont look like phi. it proves nothing.

edit2: try the finger measurements as shown in the video. if anyone can match the proposed ratios to within 1mm I'll eat my hat.

But then someone will tell you that nature isn't perfect. There are perfect proportions but they are usually distorted by crappy cell division, adapatation, evolution, etc. However, I was waiting for someone to say exactly what you just said.

As for
interesting....im just wondering how you stumbled upon it
My sister showed the 2nd video of the series and I simply subscribed just for the sake of it  :D
Its entertaining to say the least.
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Post by: Krupinski on June 21, 2011, 12:41:23 PM
mmm I think you missed my point, but even so close is not close enough. the golden ratio isnt "about 1.6", it is very precisely defined. if the measured ratio isnt exactly phi (within measurement tolerances), its not phi.


edit: my point was that I could pick an infinite number of measurements on a human body which arent even close to phi. if you find a measurement which looks like phi, its because you ignored all the measurements which dont look like phi. it proves nothing.

edit2: try the finger measurements as shown in the video. if anyone can match the proposed ratios to within 1mm I'll eat my hat.

Some may not be exact, but why do most measurements come close to phi? Between a certain point? I'm talking within a 1.2-2.0 range, anything beyond that is far off.
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Post by: RTHolmes on June 21, 2011, 01:06:27 PM
if the ratios come out at 1.2-2.0, how do you know the ratios arent based on pi/2? or e/3? or (pick any constant)*(whatever number gives the desired result)?
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Post by: Delirium on June 21, 2011, 01:21:09 PM
I've seen a few of these numerology types when I was in college and had to spend time at psych hospital. Listen to some of these guys long enough and you'll believe your mother named you because you were born on a certain date and time.
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Post by: mechanic on June 21, 2011, 01:22:55 PM
I tend to agree with Holmes on this although I do like aspect of the bygone civilisations using phi in construction. More importantly to me, when we look at the biological side, is that it doesnt actualy answer anything or make anything any better. Sure we may have a widespread equation for building blocks, but does it give any of the hard questions answers? How did the universe start, phi does not answer that one.

Essentialy what I am getting at is we could discover the 'maths of god' and yet never get any closer to udnerstand who, what or where that god is or was. It's a little bit over-sensational to think these similarities mean anything more exciting than why we have a finger print.
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Post by: LThunderpocket on June 21, 2011, 03:02:04 PM
I couldn't stand his voice.  Not even for a few seconds.

-Penguin

i think its a chick  :headscratch: