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Title: Nothing to see here, move along
Post by: Rob52240 on June 26, 2011, 08:04:08 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: Vudu15 on June 26, 2011, 08:06:16 AM
uh DoDs been doin it for years It doesn't suprise me that other business's have followed suit.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: Rob52240 on June 26, 2011, 08:11:31 AM
It's just scary to me.  Especially after being the victim of a botched background check with 3 full pages of convictions including 2 felonies. 
It took weeks to straighten out and I nearly didn't get the job over it.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: icepac on June 26, 2011, 10:10:52 AM
No big deal to me.

I post as if I am standing in front of the person I am addressing and as if everybody knows who I am.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: curry1 on June 26, 2011, 10:18:44 AM
No big deal to me.

I post as if I am standing in front of the person I am addressing and as if everybody knows who I am.

 :aok
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: Maverick on June 26, 2011, 11:36:06 AM
Nothing you put on the internet is private, unless it's encrypted like financial transactions. Even then it is vulnerable to those who have the skill and equipment to hack the server. Consider the internet to be like radio, it's all open fer everyone to "hear" but worse since there is now likely to be a record of it. Ask a few congress critters.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: guncrasher on June 26, 2011, 12:17:12 PM
when I applied for a apartment lease, they did a back ground check as a routine procedure.  they found about 10 pages of people with the same name as me who had been evicted or owed money on the lease.  I got the apartment and nobody ever questioned me if I was one of them.  If you look you will find dirt on everbody most of it not true.  the funniest thing i remember from when I worked at the insurance company hiring people, is we never bother to check if the education/employment background was true.  and yet we always relied on a consumer report that was knew was highly inaccurate.  go figure.

semp
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: The Jekyll on June 26, 2011, 02:06:45 PM
I certainly screen my job applicants as does my wife with hers, including social media.  You want to post online just like you intend to represent yourself and our company; it isn't rocket science.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: mthrockmor on June 26, 2011, 02:27:36 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: ink on June 26, 2011, 05:10:31 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 26, 2011, 05:33:21 PM
They look at fb closely as with any social network, schools do it to although if you ask they try to steer around the truth. It's just used to make sure someone isn't hiring a gang member or pyromaniac, or someone who doesn't really need the job. Also keeps up a report of criminal activity, some people are stupid enough to post that they broke the law.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: MaSonZ on June 26, 2011, 06:00:23 PM
myt question, i have a bad habit of putting up song lyrics. do represent how i act in public? no. you mean to tell me i can be denied a job because i put up a line from a song that may be offending to many? bs....
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 26, 2011, 06:06:30 PM
myt question, i have a bad habit of putting up song lyrics. do represent how i act in public? no. you mean to tell me i can be denied a job because i put up a line from a song that may be offending to many? bs....
Not at all, they look for key things, I don't know but it makes sense they wouldn't deny a job to a person who listens a certain kind of music. Its more serious things they look for.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: MaSonZ on June 26, 2011, 06:07:34 PM
Not at all, they look for key things, I don't know but it makes sense they wouldn't deny a job to a person who listens a certain kind of music. Its more serious things they look for.
the mucis i listen to has some "more serious" things in it as you say...

i would post some as an example... but i would have to blank out much of the words for the sake of not being Skuzzinated.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: Shamus on June 26, 2011, 06:08:35 PM
myt question, i have a bad habit of putting up song lyrics. do represent how i act in public? no. you mean to tell me i can be denied a job because i put up a line from a song that may be offending to many? bs....

You can be denied a job for any reason or no reason in most states.

shamus
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 26, 2011, 06:09:22 PM
the mucis i listen to has some "more serious" things in it as you say...

i would post some as an example... but i would have to blank out much of the words for the sake of not being Skuzzinated.
My resource officer was one of the adults that went camping with us, he brought his cd's and played it when everyone left to go swimmin in the lake. However I was taking a nap and he was playing it and man language every 3rd word but it was pretty cool cause alot of the officers jammed out to it.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: MaSonZ on June 26, 2011, 06:11:48 PM
i got him beat... every other word if not every word :aok
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: allaire on June 26, 2011, 06:14:03 PM
You can be denied a job for any reason or no reason in most states.

shamus
I know Arkansas is an at-will-employment state and I think North Carolina is as well.  You can be fired from a job here and they don't have to give you a reason why.  Technically they don't even have to have a reason but most do to CYA.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: Karnak on June 26, 2011, 06:14:36 PM
I'd be curious how they would be able to connect me to the online games I play as I never use or reference my real name in relation to my online names?  I know that there are companies that will consider any MMO playing a ding against the candidate, so just posting in a "face to face" manner is not always enough.

I expect the .gov has tools at its disposal, should it choose to focus them on somebody, that can dig out things that a company doing pre-employment screening cannot.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: 100Coogn on June 26, 2011, 06:15:30 PM
It's just scary to me.  Especially after being the victim of a botched background check with 3 full pages of convictions including 2 felonies. 
It took weeks to straighten out and I nearly didn't get the job over it.

We got the 'tater salad

Coogan
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: Rob52240 on June 26, 2011, 06:37:59 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: allaire on June 26, 2011, 06:40:39 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: Karnak on June 26, 2011, 07:12:05 PM
The point was that there are now firms that do nothing but look up everything a person has written on the internet.  People will be denied work because of their point of view on a topic, that's a freedom that we still had until recently.
Once again, how?  How will they attach my posts here and elsewhere to me?  HTC and a couple other companies have that info, but nobody else does.

Facebook, yes, and it is a factor in not having a facebook account.  Interestingly my wife was just turned down for a job for not having a facebook account, they thought she wasn't social enough.  Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: MaSonZ on June 26, 2011, 07:13:52 PM
Once again, how?  How will they attach my posts here and elsewhere to me?  HTC and a couple other companies have that info, but nobody else does.

Facebook, yes, and it is a factor in not having a facebook account.  Interestingly my wife was just turned down for a job for not having a facebook account, they thought she wasn't social enough.  Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
:O
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 26, 2011, 07:33:32 PM
Once again, how?  How will they attach my posts here and elsewhere to me?  HTC and a couple other companies have that info, but nobody else does.

Facebook, yes, and it is a factor in not having a facebook account.  Interestingly my wife was just turned down for a job for not having a facebook account, they thought she wasn't social enough.  Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
wtf really? Everyone is spying on people.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: CAP1 on June 26, 2011, 07:39:20 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: 68ZooM on June 26, 2011, 07:42:41 PM
sheeple wanted social media they got it and all the problems accociated with putting yourself out there on the internet, guess they never thought out all the ramifications of using social media sites.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: CAP1 on June 26, 2011, 07:48:59 PM
sheeple wanted social media they got it and all the problems accociated with putting yourself out there on the internet, guess they never thought out all the ramifications of using social media sites.

still gets me that going on facebook, and typing stuff is considered socializing. i thought ya had to go outside and deal with those two legged meat sacks to do that.  :devil
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: MaSonZ on June 26, 2011, 07:50:38 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: Hajo on June 26, 2011, 08:32:10 PM
Facebook is social media???  More like hiding behind a monitor to me.

I have no use for facebook at all.  I interact with the people I see and know.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: 100Coogn on June 26, 2011, 08:37:52 PM
sad to say 75% of Americans(if not more) have had their balls removed...it far over due but just is not gonna happen.

Say what   :eek:

Better check.    1  -  2   -  3.

Yep, all there.     :x

Coogan
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: The Jekyll on June 26, 2011, 08:43:35 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: CAP1 on June 26, 2011, 09:00:12 PM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: ink on June 26, 2011, 09:07:47 PM
Say what   :eek:

Better check.    1  -  2   -  3.

Yep, all there.     :x

Coogan

 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: guncrasher on June 26, 2011, 09:15:59 PM
Once again, how?  How will they attach my posts here and elsewhere to me?  HTC and a couple other companies have that info, but nobody else does.

Facebook, yes, and it is a factor in not having a facebook account.  Interestingly my wife was just turned down for a job for not having a facebook account, they thought she wasn't social enough.  Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

karnak they didnt turn your wife down because she didn't have a facebook account.  it was because they wanted somebody else.  we had plenty of women rejected not because they were wrong but because they were too beautiful and they would be a distraction at our company. and that was according to our 2nd vp who thought she was she should be the only pretty girl around.   fact is the excuses they give are lame, but the fact remains they already had somebody else in mind for the job.

semp
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: 68ZooM on June 26, 2011, 09:17:13 PM
Facebook is social media???  More like hiding behind a monitor to me.

I have no use for facebook at all.  I interact with the people I see and know.

i think that's how us old timers always have interacted and always will, face to face.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: Beefcake on June 26, 2011, 09:28:44 PM
And this is why I don't have a Facebook account...or a cell phone for that matter.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: The Jekyll on June 26, 2011, 09:43:21 PM
Cap I'm still trying to decipher anyone blaming what happen to a race of people during WWII on themselves. I'm pretty confident in saying that's about as screwed up as they come.

You are absolutely correct, anyone at any given time can and will do something wrong in someone's eyes, human nature and just reality. That wasn't however what he said.

I would ask, how exactly does he suggest we stand up for freedom? Remove the right to hire employees by companies, maybe we appoint them? In my company I hire exactly who I want so long as I don't violate their rights, they don't like it, don't apply. I see you demonstrating poor judgement (yep in my opinion) and I don't hire you. I see you posting "Kill all the _________ (insert who or what you like there) on Facebook and i don't hire you. Pretty simple.  My wife did a quick check on an applicant who had posted just days before blatant detrimental remarks about their company on their Facebook page. Then had the audacity to apply for a job there. I'm sorry but that was simply stupid.

Now of course if he isn't talking about this thread then yep, I'm still trying to decipher it :)
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 26, 2011, 10:12:03 PM
Facebook is social media???  More like hiding behind a monitor to me.

I have no use for facebook at all.  I interact with the people I see and know.
I have about 25 friends on face book, mainly family (about 9 of them who do the games and need my account) and the other people I know from my school and my gf who now goes to a different school. I'm close to the other people and limit who I talk to, seeing people with over 5 thousand friends really confuses me. On my phone its only family and 3 friends and my gf. I try to not be a sterotype teen.

i think that's how us old timers always have interacted and always will, face to face.
That's the best way, now adays you only talk at the mall or at school. Me and my friends only talk on the phone to know when to head out on our bikes to go somewhere around our city, we like to be out there and not so obsessed with out video games.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: oakranger on June 26, 2011, 10:46:14 PM
Question! How will they know of what I post on AH or other BBS? I can see on FB, but there are few people with the same name.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: F22RaptorDude on June 26, 2011, 10:47:27 PM
Question! How will they know of what I post on AH or other BBS? I can see on FB, but there are few people with the same name.
email address and they can track stuff from your computers ip network, something like that, THEY WILL FIND A WAY  :lol
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: oakranger on June 26, 2011, 11:45:11 PM
email address and they can track stuff from your computers ip network, something like that, THEY WILL FIND A WAY  :lol

How will they know my IP network?

And this cetianly looks like a "Joseph McCarthy" era.
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: Shane on June 27, 2011, 01:03:57 AM
How will they know my IP network?

And this cetianly looks like a "Joseph McCarthy" era.

stay in view of the camera, please.   :noid
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: mthrockmor on June 27, 2011, 07:00:40 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: Shifty on June 27, 2011, 07:05:15 AM
still gets me that going on facebook, and typing stuff is considered socializing. i thought ya had to go outside and deal with those two legged meat sacks to do that.  :devil

 :lol
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: VonMessa on June 27, 2011, 07:42:39 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: CAP1 on June 27, 2011, 08:01:14 AM
Cap I'm still trying to decipher anyone blaming what happen to a race of people during WWII on themselves. I'm pretty confident in saying that's about as screwed up as they come.

You are absolutely correct, anyone at any given time can and will do something wrong in someone's eyes, human nature and just reality. That wasn't however what he said.

I would ask, how exactly does he suggest we stand up for freedom? Remove the right to hire employees by companies, maybe we appoint them? In my company I hire exactly who I want so long as I don't violate their rights, they don't like it, don't apply. I see you demonstrating poor judgement (yep in my opinion) and I don't hire you. I see you posting "Kill all the _________ (insert who or what you like there) on Facebook and i don't hire you. Pretty simple.  My wife did a quick check on an applicant who had posted just days before blatant detrimental remarks about their company on their Facebook page. Then had the audacity to apply for a job there. I'm sorry but that was simply stupid.

Now of course if he isn't talking about this thread then yep, I'm still trying to decipher it :)

 i think he was extrapolating this to the extreme.

 a prospective employee has no rights beyond an application, and in interview with me. i will choose whom to hire based on how i feel he'll help my business. if i hire him, then he's got other rights. if i don't, he's got the right to go apply somewhere else.

 and what icepac said a few posts back, is a short version of what i say all the time........what i say or do here, or in any forum, is the very same you'll get from me face to face.....'cept ya gotta look at my ugly balding mug.  :devil
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: mthrockmor on June 27, 2011, 08:11:41 AM
See Rule #14
Title: Re: Employers can now see what we post on line
Post by: ink on June 27, 2011, 08:31:37 AM
See Rule #14