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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Grundle1 on July 11, 2011, 09:36:11 PM
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I've never had this message pop up until this week. Now I get this message all the time. I've lost four aircraft to control freezes this week. I'm not doing anything different. Anyone have advice on this? Thanks
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what do you use to control in the game?
i use a mouse, and ive found that if the cursor speed is loose, then it can cause the plane to respond in sporatic ways which will cause the game to pop up that msg.
if your using a mouse, tighten up your cursor speed, then see if that fixes your problem :salute
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No, I'm using a joystick. Now I am flying Zekes, so I'm throwing the plane about a bit. I also use the keyboard for my views and tend to hold the keys down as I'm looking around. Still, never was a problem before. Thanks for trying Yyrannis. Can anyone else help? Thanks
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I used to get that message a lot, due to my 3D-Pro joystick spiking badly. It seemed to only happen on my pitch axis. You might want to take a look and see if your stick might be spiking at certain
movement positions.
Coogan
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Bump up the dampening. I have gotten that message in about a year now. :P
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Many thanks, Gentlemen
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Bump up the dampening. I have gotten that message in about a year now. :P
well you have a CH stick, it would take some serious yanking to get the message with it!
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I think the technical answer is my stick is FUBAR. Time for a new one...
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I think the technical answer is my stick is FUBAR. Time for a new one...
Perhaps you need a powered USB port.
Maybe your stick is just broken.
We could possibly still help you here. What kind of stick are you using, have you checked for spiking, etc?
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Well, I followed Joachim's advice and tried to adjust the damping and I could see that spiking could be adjusted on that screen. However, the controls were grayed out/inaccessible. I don't know what a powered USB port is. My joystick is a Logiteck Attack 3. Its quite loose now but was still fine up until very recently. Thanks for trying to help Joe and everyone else. If the advice is to go ahead and replace the stick, then suggestion on a type of stick would be welcome. Thanks again. G
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Well, I followed Joachim's advice and tried to adjust the damping and I could see that spiking could be adjusted on that screen. However, the controls were grayed out/inaccessible. I don't know what a powered USB port is. My joystick is a Logiteck Attack 3. Its quite loose now but was still fine up until very recently. Thanks for trying to help Joe and everyone else. If the advice is to go ahead and replace the stick, then suggestion on a type of stick would be welcome. Thanks again. G
Maybe you moved the damping to much, you can move the stick and watch the levels and get it close. Then again I never had a stick that spiked
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Make sure you are in control mode 1, (planes & default). If so, make sure that your stick shows up, where it says "Select Controller".
This will be found on the game clipboard. Options/Controls/Map Controllers.
Good luck.
Coogan
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Well, I followed Joachim's advice and tried to adjust the damping and I could see that spiking could be adjusted on that screen. However, the controls were grayed out/inaccessible.
Make sure to highlight the axis you wish to adjust.
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Thanks all. I'll try your suggestions tomorrow.
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Different sticks have differing qualities of production and different tolerances. Some are just "bad" and spike all over. Some are "good" and shouldn't be spiking.
On a bad stick all you can do is adjust the damping/deadband, etc. On a good stick you shouldn't have to, and it may be a power or USB hub issue.
What stick are you using?
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It doesn't matter how good your stick is, if you repeatedly move it fast enough you will trigger the message and control lock. There is an exception when your speed is slow enough to bypass the feature.
If you rapidly move the stick to full deflection 3 times with no damping I expect you'll trigger the message. Set enough damping to avoid the message and you shouldn't have any problems with it in combat. You can gradually decrease the amount of damping until you trigger it again while fighting if you want to find the minimum damping you need for your stick and flying style.
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I don't know what a powered USB port is. My joystick is a Logiteck Attack 3. Its quite loose now but was still fine up until very recently.
On a bad stick all you can do is adjust the damping/deadband, etc. On a good stick you shouldn't have to, and it may be a power or USB hub issue.
What stick are you using?
Logicrap Attack 3
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Eewww... Okay I missed that part. Yeah, you can damper it a bit but that's all. Do not replace with the same stick, whenever you get a new one.
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How old is you stick Grundle1? If it suddenly started doing this, you might try going to Windows -> Game Controllers and observing the little crosshair moving around the box. If it suddenly jerks across the box at any point that would be indicative of a faulty potentiometer which in AH would certainly produce 'Don't move your controls so rapidly' messages.
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Yes, a rubbish stick and no rudder pedals. Accounts for my abject mediocrity...ahem. Joachim's suggestion of altering the damping was right; I was able to cut the "Don't move your controls so rapidly" messages out completely. Unfortunately, it made my zero feel sluggish. I have been following FLS' advice and gradually reducing the damping, but I still don't have the twitchy feel I need to fight the zero properly. Looks like another stick. Anybody care to suggest a really quality stick that I could buy for $60 or $70? Thanks
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Saitek has some pretty cheap sticks that work well. They won't last like the more expensive sticks like CH Products and such, but most people get a year or so out of them and they have enough buttons to work out ok.
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Thanks, Fugitive; I'll look into Saitek and CH. My Logitech is three years old - like stirring paint. Thanks to everyone. It is remarkable how helpful the community is...
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Grundle in order to simulate control forces there is a little delay between moving the controller full deflection and the control surface, like the rudder, going to full deflection. You can see this by looking at the control surface as you move the controller. Even with zero damping set on the stick you won't get an instant linear response on the control surface.
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Anybody care to suggest a really quality stick that I could buy for $60 or $70? Thanks
Dunno if it sold yet.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,315281.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,315281.0.html)
wrongway
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I've had my Saitek Cyborg Graphite for some ~10 years or so IIRC.
My brother gave it to me ~2005/2006 and I've been using it since.
The hat switch and main trigger are both out, but the built in throttle
and remaining buttons work excellently.
I don't believe that they're sold anymore, but if you see one brand new
in a box, go for it!
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10-4 -I understand, FLS. I've got the damping just high enough to avoid the messages, but I seem to have lost some feel. A new joystick will be needed. Wrongway, the link didn't open, but thanks. EskimoJoe, the Saiteks seem to get solid reviews. The CH products are expensive. I wonder if they are that much better than the (much cheaper) Saiteks. Thanks, everyone.
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You may find that you can decrease damping enough to fail the test but it's still enough to avoid trouble in combat. That will reduce the mushy feel.
As long as your stick isn't spiking you can fly with 0 damping. You just have to train yourself to fly smoother. :joystick: