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Title: Side by Side take off
Post by: AHTbolt on July 17, 2011, 02:52:36 PM
I would really like to see Side by Side take offs, the runways are wide enough and you could launch more planes. It just gets really old sitting in the belly of a Lanc or B-17.
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: EskimoJoe on July 17, 2011, 02:55:02 PM
... You've lost me. What?
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: AHTbolt on July 17, 2011, 02:58:40 PM
When you spawn in on a runway and another plane spawns on the same runway your stacked up on one another.
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: Wildcat1 on July 17, 2011, 03:09:26 PM
He's saying planes should spawn on its own section of the runway, rather than everyone spawning in the same spot. It does get annoying. However it would probably be very time consuming to develop, and that time could be focused on remodeling our ah1 lineup

Neat idea, but -1

Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: M0nkey_Man on July 17, 2011, 03:09:31 PM
... You've lost me. What?
he wants the airplane spawns next to each other, not on top of each other
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: AHTbolt on July 17, 2011, 03:17:25 PM
Your spawn code is already there tweak it from 1 to 2, one line of code at the most.
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: EskimoJoe on July 17, 2011, 03:19:34 PM
I see. This can easily be avoided, the looking into the tail gunner of another aircraft
'issue', by applying a bit of rudder.

But it is a wishlist. How about adding an option for runways?
Say, #1-4 positions of a diamond.

Choose a number somewhere (haven't figured out where), and you spawn on the rway
in that number of the diamond formation. A similar, side-by-side for medium/small sized
bombers as well.

Pardon the excellent photoshop work of art.

(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/8708/rwayidea.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/rwayidea.png/)
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: AHTbolt on July 17, 2011, 03:24:57 PM
The 1-4 would work great for bombers and the 5-6 would work great for the fighters. If you watch combat film the fighters took off in staggered pairs while the bombers took of one at a time. Great visual Joe.
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: RTHolmes on July 17, 2011, 03:28:32 PM
did buffs ever takeoff side by side? seems like a crazy idea to me. besides our runways are nowhere near wide enough.

you can just taxi if you really want to form up on the runway.
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: AHTbolt on July 17, 2011, 03:38:19 PM
No bombers didn't take off side by side this just helps when you spawn in you not sitting inside a bomber and can roll with your wing man. You spawn in look to your left or right and when your wingman spawns in you take off, or 2 planes can just roll at the same and not wait in the stack to roll. You launch twice the fighters  in the same time span.
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: RTHolmes on July 17, 2011, 03:49:34 PM
ahh ok. we just roll forward until the planes arent overlapping if we're going to take a screeny, then roll from the front - looks realistic (apart from the hovering/rear facing drones :rolleyes:) and you can all still autotakeoff :aok
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: MachFly on July 17, 2011, 04:00:18 PM
Bombers never take off side by side as they are large. If you want to start rolling with your wingmen in a fighter than all you got to do is move to the side. As WildCat said I would also much rather have HTC remodel the AH1 planes.
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: AWwrgwy on July 17, 2011, 04:25:35 PM
Choose the hanger spawn, taxi to wherever you want to be, side by side, and take off.

Otherwise, just move on the runway.




wrongway
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: Guppy35 on July 17, 2011, 04:29:27 PM
What Wrongway said

Nothing wrong with a good side by side take off in fighters.  Looks kinda nice actually :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/plaz2.jpg)
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: grizz441 on July 17, 2011, 04:31:14 PM
Does not compute.
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: RTHolmes on July 17, 2011, 04:37:36 PM
looks pretty but I'd be surprised if even fighters rolled side by side on runways as narrow as we have in AH during WWII, especially on rough strips. given the hours most fighter pilots had it would be asking for trouble. even the bases most heavies used in England had very narrow runways.
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: Guppy35 on July 17, 2011, 04:50:29 PM
looks pretty but I'd be surprised if even fighters rolled side by side on runways as narrow as we have in AH during WWII, especially on rough strips. given the hours most fighter pilots had it would be asking for trouble. even the bases most heavies used in England had very narrow runways.

They most definitely did from rough strips too.  It was generally standard practice for fighters to get them in the air quicker.  Not near the comp with the scanner, but I could post a ton of images of two ship take offs from the PTO to the ETO.
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: RTHolmes on July 17, 2011, 05:13:35 PM
Ive seen plenty of photos and Pathe footage of it, I always assumed it was just for the cameras.

put it this way - would you want to up off a rough field right next to a guy with just 10h in a Spit I when it does the lurch? :uhoh
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: Guppy35 on July 17, 2011, 05:21:20 PM
Ive seen plenty of photos and Pathe footage of it, I always assumed it was just for the cameras.

put it this way - would you want to up off a rough field right next to a guy with just 10h in a Spit I when it does the lurch? :uhoh

"They were expendable" becomes the key phrase.  Wartime.   Edwards Park talks about those take offs in his book on flying the P39 in the PTO.  They hadn't done them stateside but were expected to in the combat zone.  His flight lead cut into him just as he left the runway with no speed to move.  He had to duck under and then catch him.  The next guy caught propwash and augered in. 

You basically tucked your wing in behind the lead's wing  and kept your eye on him the entire time, raising your gear when you saw his go etc.

When fuel, not getting hit on the runway, and getting a lot of planes together is the issue, the risk is secondary.

Think about those Spits all going at once on those grass fields in England.  When their entire flight to France and back is going to amount to about an hour and a half, taking the time to go one at a time and form up would really reduce the distance they could go. 
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: Beefcake on July 17, 2011, 06:22:20 PM
This is how bombers should take off.  :D

(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/PP%20Beta%20Frame/03TakingOff.png)
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: Rob52240 on July 17, 2011, 06:47:58 PM
Well with fighters not needing the whole runway to take off a starting grid type setup might work with some plane stacking once it's full.

+1
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: RTHolmes on July 17, 2011, 07:15:02 PM
This is how bombers should take off.  :D

(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq278/GenBeef/PP%20Beta%20Frame/03TakingOff.png)

niiice :aok
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: kvuo75 on July 18, 2011, 09:00:25 AM
Otherwise, just move on the runway.


exactly.. whats so difficult about firing up, taxiing and assembling however you wish?


hmm. maybe more people rely on auto takeoff than I had assumed???   :uhoh

Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: grizz441 on July 18, 2011, 09:02:00 AM
Until friendly collisions are turned on and an issue, why does this matter?
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: LLogann on July 18, 2011, 11:11:19 AM
Well Said!   :aok

It just gets really old sitting in the belly of a Lanc or B-17.
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: Babalonian on July 18, 2011, 06:39:29 PM
Until friendly collisions are turned on and an issue, why does this matter?

Because as cool as it is actually shooting down virtual cartoon airplanes, people also really want to look and feel cool (before) doing it.
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: grizz441 on July 18, 2011, 08:08:09 PM
Because as cool as it is actually shooting down virtual cartoon airplanes, people also really want to look and feel cool (before) doing it.

Fortunately, with minimal effort this can currently be done.  :aok
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: Jayhawk on July 18, 2011, 08:59:37 PM
Really don't see the value in this,  engine on and scoot over a few feet.
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: MK-84 on July 19, 2011, 12:29:58 PM
What Wrongway said

Nothing wrong with a good side by side take off in fighters.  Looks kinda nice actually :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/plaz2.jpg)

S&M?
 :noid
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: GNucks on July 19, 2011, 03:37:36 PM
Me and my wingman do it all the time.

(http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy170/gnpatent/side1.png)

(http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy170/gnpatent/side2.png)
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: Babalonian on July 19, 2011, 05:40:43 PM
Fortunately, with minimal effort this can currently be done.  :aok

Left and right braking is sooooo much harder than just smashing the spacebar with your forehead though.... and, DEAR GOD, you're not actually infering that throttle control takes a minimal effort!  Why, why, why.... _IF THAT_ were true!....  THINK OF THE CHILDREN GRIZZ!
Title: Re: Side by Side take off
Post by: Old Sport on July 21, 2011, 09:01:09 AM
did buffs ever takeoff side by side? seems like a crazy idea to me.

Only in Catch 22  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jYoeqUs2KI&feature=related