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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: EskimoJoe on July 19, 2011, 05:09:36 PM
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HTC wants 12 hours, or, what is best for us in his/their minds.
The majority (from what I've observed) wants 1 hour.
Now, the logical compromise would be to change it to 6 hours, the best of both worlds, however.
HTC may not like this, so I propose the limit be changed to 8 hours, in HTC's favor, not popular with
the community, but still not as drastic of a change.
Can both sides agree on this?
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I prefer if the time was based of off the numerical player balance of the game. Side switching be used to encourage balanced game play. The problem with an arbitrary time limit, is that no time limit will be correct for all situations.
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Hours for what?
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Hours for what?
Hours between switching sides, in case you've not yet seen the headlines.
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as long as you bring the potato spread with the cheese whacker
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The majority (from what I've observed) wants 1 hour.
I'm one of them, but I doubt it's the majority. Most of the time it's just those who have a complaint who are voicing their opinion. In my experience, the majority of players in game (as opposed to the players on the BBS) do rarely switch at all. I'd guess they would either agree with "12h" or just don't care at all.
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Now we need an alt cap/ night and day/ ..... oh how about if your shot and die.... 30 minutes before you can fly again.
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Never mind. I found it.
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get rid of the time limit...... period...you switch within a half hour text muted for 20 minutes.
simple solution to the spy cries.
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get rid of the time limit...... period...you switch within a half hour text muted for 20 minutes.
simple solution to the spy cries.
Won't stop them, because of: Teamspeak. Skype. Instant Messaging. The good old telephone.
As a matter of fact, even the 12 hours limit won't stop that. We had constant complaints about spies long before we got the short 1 hour switch limit...
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Now we need an alt cap/ night and day/ ..... oh how about if your shot and die.... 30 minutes before you can fly again.
I think there's already a setting for that... :noid
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Might be because I never change countries on a very regular basis to suit my own personal profitability, but I like this change a lot.
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HTC wants 12 hours, or, what is best for us in his/their minds.
The majority (from what I've observed) wants 1 hour.
Now, the logical compromise would be to change it to 6 hours, the best of both worlds, however.
HTC may not like this, so I propose the limit be changed to 8 hours, in HTC's favor, not popular with
the community, but still not as drastic of a change.
Can both sides agree on this?
Since when did HTC's decision's become negotiable? :lol
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I think there's already a setting for that... :noid
:rofl
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Since when did HTC's decision's become negotiable? :lol
Lusche comes to mind.
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Lusche comes to mind.
:headscratch:
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:headscratch:
I can't pin what it was at the moment, but you posted a well thought out idea
and it ended up being implemented. I believe it was the offhours arena, IIRC.
Then later as general consensus ended up saying there weren't enough players,
HTC more or less agreed and now we have our current single arena.
I'm not saying they were bribed or negotiated into the position, I'm saying that
what the players think somewhat matters to HTC.
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I can't pin what it was at the moment, but you posted a well thought out idea
and it ended up being implemented. I believe it was the offhours arena, IIRC.
Then later as general consensus ended up saying there weren't enough players,
HTC more or less agreed and now we have our current single arena.
I'm not saying they were bribed or negotiated into the position, I'm saying that
what the players think somewhat matters to HTC.
If it's a good idea, and he likes it, he may use it. However the idea that we could negotiate to "meet in the middle" with HTC is kind of funny to me. He's the boss.
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If it's a good idea, and he likes it, he may use it. However the idea that we could negotiate to "meet in the middle" with HTC is kind of funny to me. He's the boss.
I'm certain that Hitech is a sensible enough man to make a decision and adjust if necessary.
Think back to the towns, when he added the flags. 50% and everyone thought it was too easy,
he later adjusted it to a higher percentage.
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What the hell is an 8 hour time limit going to do for me? Who plays the damn game for 8 hours straight?
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I can't pin what it was at the moment, but you posted a well thought out idea
and it ended up being implemented. I believe it was the offhours arena, IIRC.
A yes, but that was in no way any kind of negotiation. It was just a proposed changed change in the caps/arena setup after 4(!) years of operation. Just saying :)
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How's this for a compromise? Twelve seconds instead of twelve hours.
I think that's fair.
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Who plays the damn game for 8 hours straight?
:uhoh
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In a nutshell this 12 hour thing is "you can change sides once a day" for most players 8 hours would equate to the same thing.
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The change doesn't bother me at the moment.
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I'm certain that Hitech is a sensible enough man to make a decision and adjust if necessary.
I agree, that doesn't mean it was a negotiation. I may be arguing semantics here, but you seems pretty hard-set on the "compromise" behind this idea. If HTC decides it doesn't work, he'll change it, I think all the fuss on the BBS about it has a very small effect on his decision though.
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What the hell is an 8 hour time limit going to do for me? Who plays the damn game for 8 hours straight?
HOSS...he announced that the other day in the MA...he said he'd been online all day and it was 4PM. He loved it that I asked him "Really? Why?" I believe he called me an idiot...but I can't be sure because I was laughing so hard I coughed up my pancreas.
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In a nutshell this 12 hour thing is "you can change sides once a day" for most players 8 hours would equate to the same thing.
Changing to 8 hours would be the difference between hopping on in the morning,
changing sides for a good quick fight, and coming back later in the evening after
work and being able to switch back and play with whoever.
At 12 hours, it's a rather obnoxious wait. Changing down to 8 would make quite
the difference for me and perhaps even others.
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Even six hours, in many cases excluding the weekend, would only allow one side switch per night. Folks get home from work, school, etc and spend a few hours in game then go to bed. The time from when I get home from work and go to bed every night is roughly 5 hours. I think 2 hours is a better compromise.
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HTC wants 12 hours, or, what is best for us in his/their minds.
The majority (from what I've observed) wants 1 hour.
Now, the logical compromise would be to change it to 6 hours, the best of both worlds, however.
HTC may not like this, so I propose the limit be changed to 8 hours, in HTC's favor, not popular with
the community, but still not as drastic of a change.
Can both sides agree on this?
so perhaps 20 or 30 said they didn't like it since when is this a majority?
semp
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so perhaps 20 or 30 said they didn't like it since when is this a majority?
semp
Those who have spoken create a majority over those who have not voiced an opinion
Though the 'silent majority' may like the change, their opinion is unknown, therefore cannot
be counted.
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I prefer if the time was based of off the numerical player balance of the game. Side switching be used to encourage balanced game play. The problem with an arbitrary time limit, is that no time limit will be correct for all situations.
+1
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Well if 6% don't like it, and 4% like it, and 90% haven't said a thing, I wouldn't call the anti-12 hour a majority. I'd say the "no comment" crowd is the vast majority.
Why, because while many will go ahead and discuss the change, MOST realize that their opinion holds very little weight in the grand scheme of things.
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Won't stop them, because of: Teamspeak. Skype. Instant Messaging. The good old telephone.
As a matter of fact, even the 12 hours limit won't stop that. We had constant complaints about spies long before we got the short 1 hour switch limit...
Uh...if they go out of game to find a CV or something, they deserve to know simply for a wasted effort.
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so perhaps 20 or 30 said they didn't like it since when is this a majority?
semp
We're only on page three, give it time. I think he is referring to the majority who have posted about it.
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We're only on page three, give it time. I think he is referring to the majority who have posted about it.
well then it should be rephrased. because last i checked some of those up in arms dont even play the game and even the majority of players dont even post. so you have a really small percentage of people pretending to be the majority. when the fact is most guys really hate when people switch. just ask around. most people that talk about helping the low side are just spreading bs around. they will switch in a hearbeat when it's convenient for them. seen people land then switch right away bring 262's and go after the buffs, or just switch to get more kills. I have gotten killed many times by some guy that I was fighting with 2 min earlier who switched and many times we had the low numbers.
most guys who post about only switching for the fight and hate the hordes are full of it. you want proof, if they only cared about 1v1 or some small fights, they would be playing in the ava or mw/ew. but they dont.
anyway, I am happy for the switch. and like all of you guys kept saying before whenever there was a change, adjust, adapt, overcome or quit. the game will go on without you guys, trust me on this :bolt:.
semp
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Those who have spoken create a majority over those who have not voiced an opinion
Though the 'silent majority' may like the change, their opinion is unknown, therefore cannot
be counted.
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well then it should be rephrased. because last i checked some of those up in arms dont even play the game and even the majority of players dont even post. so you have a really small percentage of people pretending to be the majority. when the fact is most guys really hate when people switch. just ask around. most people that talk about helping the low side are just spreading bs around. they will switch in a hearbeat when it's convenient for them. seen people land then switch right away bring 262's and go after the buffs, or just switch to get more kills. I have gotten killed many times by some guy that I was fighting with 2 min earlier who switched and many times we had the low numbers.
most guys who post about only switching for the fight and hate the hordes are full of it. you want proof, if they only cared about 1v1 or some small fights, they would be playing in the ava or mw/ew. but they dont.
anyway, I am happy for the switch. and like all of you guys kept saying before whenever there was a change, adjust, adapt, overcome or quit. the game will go on without you guys, trust me on this :bolt:.
semp
Why do you even care? You choose to fly for one country. Great. Many don't like to fly with the horde and actually fight the horde. The worst that can happen is you get better fights. It has nothing to do with 1 v 1, it's about just having fights period.
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Why do you even care? You choose to fly for one country. Great. Many don't like to fly with the horde and actually fight the horde. The worst that can happen is you get better fights. It has nothing to do with 1 v 1, it's about just having fights period.
and how does it stop the fights? I wanna know because i just logged in for 2 1/2 hours and there was non stopping fighting in one place or another. and the why do I care? well I already explained it.
semp
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Might be because I never change countries on a very regular basis to suit my own personal profitability, but I like this change a lot.
Wtf does that even mean?
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In a nutshell this 12 hour thing is "you can change sides once a day" for most players 8 hours would equate to the same thing.
Indeed
I'm hoping this 12hr change won't affect me too much (I'll just rarely/never be flying on Bish in the future I suppose) :pray
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What game are you all playing here? Every time I log on I can find some type of fight. I think most of you want to find the side with lowest ENY and high perk point value just to get your perks up. Come down from your 30k pick platform and try taking a base, maybe that will start a fight you looking for. If it's all about "The fight" than lets get rid of the score, rank and name in lights thing. $29.99 eye test at Walmart for those who cant find a fight :salute