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Title: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: AceHavok on August 01, 2011, 06:13:43 PM
I wish that the tank icons would be removed while in the tower.
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: Krusty on August 01, 2011, 09:22:57 PM
There is no reason to wish this other than to hide and spawn camp on enemy fields without detection.

-1 for the griefer wish
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: LLogann on August 01, 2011, 09:28:55 PM
I have to agree with the fine gentleman I rarely agree with.  



But.... You would get better results with a little explanation.  For instance......

" you can have a squaddie in the tower call out gv positions "

Then at least there would be a reason to question your video settings..........  Regardless of icon, I can always see the gv's approaching from 5 or 6k.   :salute






Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: Tank-Ace on August 01, 2011, 09:47:21 PM
remove them from the tower, and remove them from the field guns. Neither of them are (or should be) any diffrent from a tank.
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: AWwrgwy on August 01, 2011, 11:16:43 PM
remove them from the tower, and remove them from the field guns. Neither of them are (or should be) any diffrent from a tank.

My field guns don't have icons until the gvs are reeealy close.

 :cry



wrongway
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: stabbyy on August 01, 2011, 11:50:31 PM
-1 tower can see gv's better becuase its about 30-40 ft in the air overlooking the base it should be able to see gv's inb... but feild guns icons should be removed as they are ground level...
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: Tank-Ace on August 02, 2011, 12:37:23 AM
Its actually about 25 feet. And who cares if its 25 feet? most are just looking from F3 mode anyway, which is way unrealistic.

So how about this: Icons in the tower at under 200yds, F3 mode disabled.
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: stabbyy on August 02, 2011, 01:00:43 AM
ok but a tank rolling up on a feild unoticed is real? not 1 guy in a gun or hangar is going to raise question to a tank shelling things and tell ppl where it is? and no the f3 mode isint real and could be remove in tower...but moving trees are pretty easy to spot... and it still sits higher which does give it an advantage in which case 200 yards is sitting practicly ontop of the tower...i think 200 yards would be fair if it was around a structure so if the say t34 is 201 yards away from hangar its not ID'd but when its 199 it is to make up for the lack of personel
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: Slash27 on August 02, 2011, 03:08:06 AM
You can see GV icons from the tower. F3  F8   pan around :aok
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: Midway on August 02, 2011, 03:20:13 AM
ok but a tank rolling up on a feild unoticed is real? not 1 guy in a gun or hangar is going to raise question to a tank shelling things and tell ppl where it is? and no the f3 mode isint real and could be remove in tower...but moving trees are pretty easy to spot... and it still sits higher which does give it an advantage in which case 200 yards is sitting practicly ontop of the tower...i think 200 yards would be fair if it was around a structure so if the say t34 is 201 yards away from hangar its not ID'd but when its 199 it is to make up for the lack of personel

 :old: A pilot should be able to climb to the top of the tower and spot.

  He should also be able to walk out of the tower and hide in the map room at the vbase or port or hide in the bushes. He should be able to be sneaky.   :ahand

 Then turn the icons off.    :)

 
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: HawkerMKII on August 02, 2011, 07:01:25 AM
Better yet, remove F5 F8 or so called God mode, what is the point of this anyway???
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: Delirium on August 02, 2011, 10:06:36 AM
If you're that close to the field it is for vulching and nothing else. How does that promote gameplay? Leave icons and increase the ack to prevent this from happening.

I find it rather comical when I ask a tanker, "What would happen if no one destroys your tank?" The response (at least the serious ones) consist of, "I'll go to the airfield and park my tank at the end of the runway or behind the VH." Until that changes, I'm proud to be a bomb tard.
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: SmokinLoon on August 02, 2011, 10:25:24 AM
From the tower is fine.  From the field guns it not, imo.

In situations like this, I always try and find a "real" parallel that could vouch for having whatever issue is the topic actually happen.   
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: Rob52240 on August 02, 2011, 10:27:39 AM
I've been smoking the towers lately anyway.  You can't whine your way into winning against vTARD assault.

Sorry if that sounded arrogant.
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: Butcher on August 02, 2011, 11:11:47 AM
If you're that close to the field it is for vulching and nothing else. How does that promote gameplay? Leave icons and increase the ack to prevent this from happening.

I find it rather comical when I ask a tanker, "What would happen if no one destroys your tank?" The response (at least the serious ones) consist of, "I'll go to the airfield and park my tank at the end of the runway or behind the VH." Until that changes, I'm proud to be a bomb tard.

No kidding, I generally build my perks at the end of the runway in an osti - once someone takes out the ords - you better either learn to use an Hurri-D/Il-2 as designed or face a tank shooting down the runway. I've been bombed enough times to say quit whining if a tanks on the end of your runway because your team screwed up in stopping it  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: SmokinLoon on August 02, 2011, 11:33:07 AM
I've been smoking the towers lately anyway.  You can't whine your way into winning against vTARD assault.

Sorry if that sounded arrogant.

It is.  You and your kind assume massed numbers = quality.  How wrong you are.   ;)
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: Rob52240 on August 02, 2011, 11:34:10 AM
I wasn't referring to posted missions.
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: Tank-Ace on August 02, 2011, 01:20:43 PM
ok but a tank rolling up on a feild unoticed is real? not 1 guy in a gun or hangar is going to raise question to a tank shelling things and tell ppl where it is? and no the f3 mode isint real and could be remove in tower...but moving trees are pretty easy to spot... and it still sits higher which does give it an advantage in which case 200 yards is sitting practicly ontop of the tower...i think 200 yards would be fair if it was around a structure so if the say t34 is 201 yards away from hangar its not ID'd but when its 199 it is to make up for the lack of personel

As soon as you explain how you can identify the tank without visual conformation on it, then I'll give you the point. If the guy in the tower can't see past the trees, he gets no icon.

If you're that close to the field it is for vulching and nothing else. How does that promote gameplay? Leave icons and increase the ack to prevent this from happening.

I find it rather comical when I ask a tanker, "What would happen if no one destroys your tank?" The response (at least the serious ones) consist of, "I'll go to the airfield and park my tank at the end of the runway or behind the VH." Until that changes, I'm proud to be a bomb tard.

destruction of ordnance, radar, fuel, etc. possibly to destroy the hangers at a small field. Camping and vulching is a survival thing. If you see something upping to kill you, you're going to shoot at it. Why would you let him go, so he can climb out and bomb you?


Leave the ack alone, its (somewhat) realistic as it is.
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: Delirium on August 02, 2011, 02:15:42 PM
Camping and vulching is a survival thing. If you see something upping to kill you, you're going to shoot at it.

I rest my case... here is to looking forward to egging you in the near future.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: Tank-Ace on August 02, 2011, 03:05:30 PM
Love the anti-gv mentality here. So, nerf tank's abilities to attack airfields, which they already have a hard time doing. Keep icons and F3 mode for the tower, so they can be spotted from unrealistic distances.



Yup, sure sounds like you have things strait  :rolleyes:.
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: stabbyy on August 02, 2011, 03:30:12 PM
ok your right there if the tower has no line of sight it should not get a tag/icon and by what i mean by being near buildings is... there would still be personel on the base so somone would see a tank rolling up and i dont think they would keep it to them selfs more or less simulate base personel by ID'ing the tank when its near structures(where ppl would be)

and yeah tanks have a hard time attacking a base no arguement there
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: Tank-Ace on August 02, 2011, 03:36:36 PM
the issue is that it makes no more sense (well not much anyway) to give icons to the guys in the tower, but not to the tanks. If base personell see a tank, everyone will hear about it (tank crews included), not just the people in the tower (why do we have towers at vehicle bases anyway  :headscratch:)?


And the players are perfectly capable of identifying a tank without an icon. If they see a tank, but they can't tell what type it is, then they should have to up a tank or a field gun to figure it out. All that does is represent them running out of the tower, and grabbing a pair of binoculars to have a look.
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: Raphael on August 02, 2011, 04:50:53 PM
I have to say +1 on this, no reason to see icons from tower and field guns.
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: Big Rat on August 02, 2011, 06:18:45 PM
Lets just do away with GV icons all together, becouse the same rules for the tower should go for aircraft as well, correct?

 :salute
BigRat
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: Tank-Ace on August 02, 2011, 06:54:55 PM
Personally, I'd be fine with it. If I take a stab at saying what type of tank it is outside of icon range, I'm right more often than I'm wrong. But to many people seem to think they can instanly identify a tank from 4000ft up flying by at 350mph. However thats neither here nor there, so meh, whatever.

But yes, I agree with you in principal.
Title: Re: Tank Icons in Tower.
Post by: icepac on August 02, 2011, 09:54:54 PM
All this visibility from tower as well as manned guns and I still routinely move to a base to find 8 friendly tanks driving off base to thier favorite spawns even as enemy tanks roll onto base less than 1500 from them.

Apparently, flanking by the enemy is not considered.

That said, icons or no icons are fine with me......I just shoot or check six all vehicles I see.