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Title: Aces High records
Post by: Midway on August 03, 2011, 01:39:29 AM
A page somewhere, under community maybe, listing records such as highest altitude, fastest speed, fastest town capture with all of town up to begin with, biggest mission, most players on, etc

Saw a screenshot of someone climbing to 95k today.

Might be fun to try and beat these records or establish new ones.

:noid  
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: des506 on August 03, 2011, 01:52:29 AM
how high does aces go?? 80k you're almost in the stratosphere isn't it??95k? wouldn't that be in space?

 but i think it would be fun... :aok

Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: guncrasher on August 03, 2011, 02:43:08 AM
I hold the record for most vtards ramming in one sorty.  4 in less than 20 seconds.

semp
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: des506 on August 03, 2011, 06:17:42 AM
I hold the record for most vtards ramming in one sorty.  4 in less than 20 seconds.

semp

 :aok  :rofl

Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: HawkerMKII on August 03, 2011, 06:58:34 AM
I hold the record for most vtards ramming in one sorty.  4 in less than 20 seconds.

semp

Maybe a record for the dw**b who can say vtards the most, getting very old
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: VonMessa on August 03, 2011, 08:10:07 AM
Maybe a record for the dw**b who can say vtards the most, getting very old

... but just as amusing as the first time I heard it and in every incarnation.
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: icepac on August 03, 2011, 09:51:36 AM
This dogfight eventually reached 42,000 feet.

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5028/5888520241_2cc03a88cd_b.jpg)

From another thread.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6008/6003777241_33a5fac1a7_b.jpg)

It's amazing what you find when you invest the time to do so.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6017/6004123029_a629a8b057_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: ACE on August 03, 2011, 09:57:06 AM
Like most kills landed in one sortie!  I think Kazaa holds it now not for sure.
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: Debrody on August 03, 2011, 10:28:08 AM
Like most kills landed in one sortie!  I think Kazaa holds it now not for sure.
Im wondering, how many... heard he had a kill streak of 180-ish.
Also heard Grizz had a 90-ish 262 sortie. I would appreciate if anyone could send me a link to that video.
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: shiv on August 03, 2011, 10:36:40 AM
4 hours, 99 kills: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?topic=287699.75 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?topic=287699.75)

I think I was #24 or so.
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: grizz441 on August 03, 2011, 10:48:10 AM
 :cry :cry :cry

Actually that movie's ending is not what actually happened in the sortie.  There was a film viewer bug and it showed the hurri destroying my entire plane in the film, even though he just oil leaked me.  As result the rest of the sortie I was just a flying fuselage so obviously the movie could not proceed past that point so we compromised a fitting ending.  What really happened was that I rammed a zero with my wingtip on my 100th kill.  I was already down to one engine (as result of the hurri oil leak) and now I had half a wing tip.  I was also extremely low on fuel since i was trying to get to 100 and I knew I could not rearm with only one engine.  So I got the 100th kill, and ended up ditching bingo fuel about 10 miles from base.  I saved the screenshot of the #100 kill, but the SYSTEM: You have landed 100 kills was what I was really after.  :cry
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: Krusty on August 03, 2011, 10:51:44 AM
Kill streaks are too easy. How about the most single-sortie streak? No hotpads?

Except...

There's no reason to note these kind of records. It strips them of their context, and devalues them when you do that.

As for height, speed, etc, apparently AH doesn't model it properly above a certain alt. You can't really get up to 96k in an ar234 without gaming the game. You know the loopholes and you exploit them. Not something praiseworthy.
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: grizz441 on August 03, 2011, 11:05:42 AM
Kill streaks are too easy. How about the most single-sortie streak? No hotpads?

How so?  If they are so easy I would expect to see a lot more streaks.  The last time I saw more than 20 kills landed in anything besides a jet might have been by Bruv.

My highs are 50 landed in a jet and 30 in a K4
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: Debrody on August 03, 2011, 11:06:57 AM
Thanks, Shiv.
Kill streaks are easy, right, Krusty? Then i must be soo tarded, never could land more than 14, let it be g-6, tempest or 262...
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: MaSonZ on August 03, 2011, 11:11:11 AM
4 hours, 99 kills: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?topic=287699.75 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?topic=287699.75)

I think I was #24 or so.
:O i wanna see the raw video from thevideo editor..
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: ACE on August 03, 2011, 11:18:11 AM
Kaz has a pic of it somewhere I can't see to find it :p
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: Soulyss on August 03, 2011, 11:23:12 AM
I don't recall the exact numbers involved but if memory serves Fishu had a pretty good run back in AH1 beta days.  I think he went a whole tour w/out being shot down,  100+ kills w/out losing a plane.
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: ACE on August 03, 2011, 11:58:08 AM
Would you count beta?..  its not the actual thing imo
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: grizz441 on August 03, 2011, 12:14:31 PM
I don't recall the exact numbers involved but if memory serves Fishu had a pretty good run back in AH1 beta days.  I think he went a whole tour w/out being shot down,  100+ kills w/out losing a plane.

354
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: guncrasher on August 03, 2011, 01:11:35 PM
I had 12 kills in a seafire once.  no rearming.

semp
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: F6Fraven on August 03, 2011, 01:19:26 PM
I had 23 in 1 sortie in my F6 a little over a year ago, without re-arming. Most were just vulches and people climbing out on take off though.
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: ACE on August 03, 2011, 01:29:41 PM
I believe Kaz had 249 before he died.  
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: MK-84 on August 03, 2011, 01:35:19 PM
Kill streaks are too easy. How about the most single-sortie streak? No hotpads?

Except...

There's no reason to note these kind of records. It strips them of their context, and devalues them when you do that.

As for height, speed, etc, apparently AH doesn't model it properly above a certain alt. You can't really get up to 96k in an ar234 without gaming the game. You know the loopholes and you exploit them. Not something praiseworthy.

Too easy?!  whats your best then?  I've only managed 25 in a temp as my personal best. 
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: Midway on August 03, 2011, 01:41:41 PM
I believe Kaz had 249 before he died.  

 :O

 :headscratch: :airplane: :joystick:
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: coombz on August 03, 2011, 02:12:28 PM
I believe Kaz had 249 before he died. 

pics or it didn't happen!
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: guncrasher on August 03, 2011, 02:45:37 PM
thing with kill record is that most are just a bunch of picking and vulching.  record would be most killed while in rearmng pad.  or most killed while taking off in one pass.  or perhaps most gv's killed with a single bomb, instead of most killed in a flight.  hey b29 has a zillion 500 pounders.

semp
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: Soulyss on August 03, 2011, 02:55:46 PM
Would you count beta?..  its not the actual thing imo

Absolutely, most records are the product of the age they were set in.  Will anyone ever win the triple crown in baseball again? Or will another player ever have a 56 game hitting streak?  Getting 354 kills w/out losing an aircraft is a significant milestone regardless of when it was done.  It was also accomplished in an aircraft that was not exceedingly dominant in a single category like the 262 is now, if memory serves he flew the 190A8 primarily.  

*edit*
I'd be impressed if someone got that many kills now in a 262 or otherwise, I just used the 262 because it is so much faster than just about anything else in the planeset and thus can do more to stay out of trouble with good SA.

Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: Guppy35 on August 03, 2011, 02:59:20 PM
I hold the record for most augers without a kill.
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: MickDono on August 03, 2011, 03:03:59 PM
Kill streaks are too easy. How about the most single-sortie streak? No hotpads?

Except...

There's no reason to note these kind of records. It strips them of their context, and devalues them when you do that.

As for height, speed, etc, apparently AH doesn't model it properly above a certain alt. You can't really get up to 96k in an ar234 without gaming the game. You know the loopholes and you exploit them. Not something praiseworthy.

Bloody hell, lighten up   :aok
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: WWhiskey on August 03, 2011, 03:09:08 PM
my alt record,
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg229/WWhiskey/game%20stuff%20and%20other/higher10.jpg)
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: PuppetZ on August 03, 2011, 03:11:38 PM
I hold the record for most augers without a kill.

Then I must be runner up in that category!

 :D
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: Midway on August 03, 2011, 03:22:26 PM
my alt record,
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg229/WWhiskey/game%20stuff%20and%20other/higher10.jpg)

 :O 117k  :rock
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: MickDono on August 03, 2011, 03:26:06 PM
:cry :cry :cry

Actually that movie's ending is not what actually happened in the sortie.  There was a film viewer bug and it showed the hurri destroying my entire plane in the film, even though he just oil leaked me.  As result the rest of the sortie I was just a flying fuselage so obviously the movie could not proceed past that point so we compromised a fitting ending.  What really happened was that I rammed a zero with my wingtip on my 100th kill.  I was already down to one engine (as result of the hurri oil leak) and now I had half a wing tip.  I was also extremely low on fuel since i was trying to get to 100 and I knew I could not rearm with only one engine.  So I got the 100th kill, and ended up ditching bingo fuel about 10 miles from base.  I saved the screenshot of the #100 kill, but the SYSTEM: You have landed 100 kills was what I was really after.  :cry

That deadstick landing onto the rearm pad is awesome  :rofl
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: grizz441 on August 04, 2011, 10:42:56 AM
Absolutely, most records are the product of the age they were set in.  Will anyone ever win the triple crown in baseball again? Or will another player ever have a 56 game hitting streak?  Getting 354 kills w/out losing an aircraft is a significant milestone regardless of when it was done.  It was also accomplished in an aircraft that was not exceedingly dominant in a single category like the 262 is now, if memory serves he flew the 190A8 primarily.  

*edit*
I'd be impressed if someone got that many kills now in a 262 or otherwise, I just used the 262 because it is so much faster than just about anything else in the planeset and thus can do more to stay out of trouble with good SA.



From what I've heard, a "death" was a little more arbitrary than it is now.  If you ditched or bailed without credit being given to another player that wouldn't count as a "Death".  I'm not sure if this is true but that is what I heard.

As far as streaking an individual sortie, that 100 kill sortie was the most physically painful aces high session I have ever done.  Sitting there for 4+ hours straight in concentration was really taxing on me.  And I was also averaging 13-15 kills per trip.  Some people egg me on to try and do it again but not only do I not feel that I have the sharpened skill to get 100 in a sortie currently, I also do not have the heart to even attempt it.
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: Guppy35 on August 04, 2011, 11:09:18 AM
A good sign Grizz.  A sure sign of the 'nothing left to prove, but I'm gonna have fun" phase of cartoon flying :)
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: grizz441 on August 04, 2011, 12:11:20 PM
I have a weak heart for a good challenge, but this one is very taxing.
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: Midway on August 04, 2011, 12:19:29 PM
I have a weak heart for a good challenge, but this one is very taxing.

Which is why (because they are difficult to achieve) these records should be posted in an organized page somewhere (with appropriate film attached, of course).  See my original post.

 :old:  Gives others a chance to better them.

Would add to the fun, I believe. :)
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: icepac on August 04, 2011, 12:47:26 PM
The high altitude stuff really has no practical application because the effort of attaining the super heights leaves nothing left of strategic importance.........and no fuel.

I guess it should be a bug report but they are very difficult to do and perform no useful task.
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: Guppy35 on August 04, 2011, 03:25:58 PM
Which is why (because they are difficult to achieve) these records should be posted in an organized page somewhere (with appropriate film attached, of course).  See my original post.

 :old:  Gives others a chance to better them.

Would add to the fun, I believe. :)

I don't agree.  If anything it would be more motivation not to fight unless you know you can win every time.  Boring!
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: grizz441 on August 04, 2011, 03:35:08 PM
I don't agree.  If anything it would be more motivation not to fight unless you know you can win every time.  Boring!

Do you really think that having visible records would profoundly change the way a noticeable number of people play the game or is this just more of an idealistic stance?  I am guessing the latter.
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: Guppy35 on August 04, 2011, 03:54:49 PM
Do you really think that having visible records would profoundly change the way a noticeable number of people play the game or is this just more of an idealistic stance?  I am guessing the latter.

Not the latter.  Obviously I'm an air combat fan.  You said it yourself.  Pushing yourself for that kill streak was 'physically painful and taxing' on  you.  I don't know that any cartoon game should produce that kind of response.  Any thing that reinforces that kind of play, or as JUGgler so recently called it, 'timid' flying, can't be good.

There's been a thread on Levi recently.  I don't know that Levi ever flew to set a record.  Having been a squaddie of his in Airwarrior, I know he didn't there.  He built his cartoon pilot rep on being able to go into any fight and come out the other end, and by the type of player he was.  That goes for any number of the big 'name' players.

Grizz you've been recognized as one of the best sticks in the game.  I'll agree with that, not because of kill streaks, landed kills, or being a jet jockey.  I agree with it because we've tangled many a time in cartoon airplanes and that's where you proved it to me.

For me that's the only gauge needed to prove anything in AH :aok

Artificial records don't encourage the fight, and that's bad.
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: Soulyss on August 04, 2011, 03:57:26 PM
From what I've heard, a "death" was a little more arbitrary than it is now.  If you ditched or bailed without credit being given to another player that wouldn't count as a "Death".  I'm not sure if this is true but that is what I heard.

As far as streaking an individual sortie, that 100 kill sortie was the most physically painful aces high session I have ever done.  Sitting there for 4+ hours straight in concentration was really taxing on me.  And I was also averaging 13-15 kills per trip.  Some people egg me on to try and do it again but not only do I not feel that I have the sharpened skill to get 100 in a sortie currently, I also do not have the heart to even attempt it.


To the best of my knowledge/memory the scoring system was the same back then, Fishu's record as I remember it was that no one claimed a victory against him, it could have included a ditch in friendly territory w/out a proxy being awarded.  My memory of the events from 10+ years ago is a little fuzzy.    I can only imagine what going for that streak in the 262 (or any other plane) would be like, I have a hard time playing for more than an hour or two tops before my brain gets tired and my flying suffers accordingly.
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: grizz441 on August 04, 2011, 04:00:33 PM
Thanks Corky, but records do create challenges, and challenges are fun for many players, including AH God's such as Fester.

And when I say it was taxing to go for 100 kills, yes it was, but it was quite fun to set out to accomplish, it was especially fun to see batfinkv make a movie about it, and is also fun that it is still being discussed, a year after I tried to do it.  ;)
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: grizz441 on August 04, 2011, 04:01:52 PM

To the best of my knowledge/memory the scoring system was the same back then, Fishu's record as I remember it was that no one claimed a victory against him, it could have included a ditch in friendly territory w/out a proxy being awarded.  My memory of the events from 10+ years ago is a little fuzzy.    I can only imagine what going for that streak in the 262 (or any other plane) would be like, I have a hard time playing for more than an hour or two tops before my brain gets tired and my flying suffers accordingly.

Yes that's how I perceived it.  So if he rammed somebody and they died instantly but his carcass crashed and hit the ground afterwards, no one "claimed" a kill on him.  Not saying that happened but it could have easily, or a milder derivative of it.
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: Soulyss on August 04, 2011, 04:11:07 PM
Yes that's how I perceived it.  So if he rammed somebody and they died instantly but his carcass crashed and hit the ground afterwards, no one "claimed" a kill on him.  Not saying that happened but it could have easily, or a milder derivative of it.

Yeah that's about it, his kill stats were 354 - 0 at the end of the tour, but I'm not sure what his K/D+1 score was.  At least that's how I remember it.
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 04, 2011, 04:22:52 PM
Like most kills landed in one sortie!  I think Kazaa holds it now not for sure.

The record was set many years before Kazaa started playing and Fishu still holds it.  The only time it was broken when there was the bailing out gunner bug that would sometimes cause players to record hundreds of kills in a single sortie. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: Guppy35 on August 04, 2011, 04:30:50 PM
Thanks Corky, but records do create challenges, and challenges are fun for many players, including AH God's such as Fester.

And when I say it was taxing to go for 100 kills, yes it was, but it was quite fun to set out to accomplish, it was especially fun to see batfinkv make a movie about it, and is also fun that it is still being discussed, a year after I tried to do it.  ;)

And that part is great.  It was a challenge you set for yourself, not that the game set for you.  I doubt it would have meant as much had it been.  So don't get me wrong, if folks want to go for 'records' like that, more power to them.  I just don't think the game should make a list that folks should try and get on.  As you say, folks still talk about it anyway.

It's funny that you mention Fester as an AH God.  No disrespect to Fester, but I've never run into him in an equal situation in all  the years I've played.  He's always been above or with help.  That's fine, and maybe he'd mop the floor with me co alt, but I don't know.  In that regard I don't know if he's an AH God  :)

I remember his going after a kill streak, and again more power to him, but that's far less impressive to me then taking on all comers

SHawk's name shows up on the leader board all the time.  That means nothing to me.  But I've also fought him many times and I know he knows how to bend a cartoon plane.  That means a lot.

Guys were talking about Drex recently, another AH "God".  He was back in game and I ran into him.  Where did I find him?  Low in a Spit 9 looking for a fight.  He was rusty and I actually won a few.  But the rust wore off and I saw what he could do with that bird.

JUG established himself on my list in a Jug on the deck taking on all comers.  Agent did the same taking on all comers in his 109K4.  Slapshot in an F6.  The list goes on and on of guys like that who will never be on an AH generated list, but they made the list of a lot of guys flying cartoon planes.

Grizz, you and I fly with a lot of guys like that in our respective squads.

Just my own system of ranking I guess :)
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: JOACH1M on August 04, 2011, 04:34:05 PM

JUG established himself on my list in a Jug on the deck taking on all comers.  Agent did the same taking on all comers in his 109K4.  Slapshot in an F6.  The list goes on and on of guys like that who will never be on an AH generated list, but they made the list of a lot of guys flying cartoon planes. 80th in 38's

1 day ill learn to be good at flying the 109F :bolt: :airplane:
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: Midway on August 04, 2011, 04:58:21 PM
1 day ill learn to be good at flying the 109F :bolt: :airplane:

One day I'll learn to be good at flying :bolt: :airplane:
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: JOACH1M on August 04, 2011, 05:42:18 PM
One day I'll learn to be good at flying :bolt: :airplane:
:noid
Title: Re: Aces High records
Post by: ACE on August 04, 2011, 11:38:17 PM
One day I will be CO of the few..