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Title: GV soft spot help
Post by: skorpion on August 16, 2011, 04:40:46 PM
for the past 3 weeks ive been studying up on the sofspots on certain GV's. i have the softspots for the Tiger 1, 2 panther, M476 and the T34/85. these spots are the most vulnerable to all guns 75mm and better. if anyone wants me to put up softspots for other GV's just PM me what GV and the minimum gun size.  :salute

T34/85.

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/ahss19-1.jpg)


M476
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/ahss18-1.jpg)


Tiger 2
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/ahss17-2.jpg)


Panther (rear)
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/ahss16.jpg)


panther (sides)
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/ahss15-1.jpg)


Tiger 1 (rear)
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/ahss14.jpg)


Tiger 1 (sides)
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/ahss12.jpg)


Tiger 1 (front)
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/ahss13-1.jpg)
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: skorpion on August 16, 2011, 04:47:29 PM
i forgot to say that these soft spots were with the german 75mm panzer.

happy hunting!
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: Tank-Ace on August 16, 2011, 06:42:52 PM
Looks like your "soft spots" are most of the tank  :lol.
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: skorpion on August 16, 2011, 07:03:36 PM
Looks like your "soft spots" are most of the tank  :lol.
i did this because i had a few people ask me to...:rolleyes: and does the 3 very small spots on the tiger look like "most of the tank"?
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: Tank-Ace on August 16, 2011, 10:09:42 PM
Just saying that a "soft spot" is a specific location, such as "the lower front hull" or "the drivers compartment just above the tracks" on T-34's.

If you circle a tank facing away from you and say "the back is a soft spot  :noid", then all you've done is point out that the back armor is thinner.

I'll start working on some more specific pictures.
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: SPKmes on August 16, 2011, 10:55:36 PM
Here is one Belial did a while back....doesn't have the tigerII or panther
but this is what Tankace is on about...specific areas not just whole track/side areas.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,269006.0.html

If you right click (Ithink) after you have chosen an particular tank there is an armour thickness diagram that you can check out also.....this obviously shows the areas which have lighter and heavier armour

Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: skorpion on August 16, 2011, 11:29:43 PM
like i said, just doing this for a few people. the places i highlighted are all 1 hit kills if you are within 900 yds of the tank. i also found a few more very weak spots on the Tiger 2. will post those later on tonight.
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: skorpion on August 16, 2011, 11:42:18 PM
alright, i got the tiger 2 sides done. these are the places ive had the best luck in killing with my panzer.

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/ahss4.jpg)
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: Tank-Ace on August 17, 2011, 12:28:48 AM
There ya go  :aok! Those would make sense, and indicate HTC  models things like crew placment, ammunition, etc. I've always wondered about that. With each of them you either hit the driver, the engine, a crew member, or ammunition.
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: skorpion on August 17, 2011, 01:17:38 AM
There ya go  :aok! Those would make sense, and indicate HTC  models things like crew placment, ammunition, etc. I've always wondered about that. With each of them you either hit the driver, the engine, a crew member, or ammunition.
i personally like blowing out the turret, as i aim for the ammo storage alot :devil
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: skorpion on August 17, 2011, 01:41:18 AM
i re-did the M4 and added a few more GV's into this

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/ahss7.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/ahss6.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/ahss5-2.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/ahss4-1.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/ahss3.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/ahss2-2.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/ahss1-1.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/ahss0.jpg)
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: Belial on August 17, 2011, 02:33:51 PM
The killzones i had done are still relevant for every tank but the Tiger2 best bet with it is to flank it.

the rest are all the same including the panther hit it low in the front.
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: SmokinLoon on August 17, 2011, 04:40:33 PM
 I'm sure most everyone knows that the trump card is "range" correct?  I think it is better to know where NOT to hit a tank vs where to try and squeeze in a round. 

Usually, the turret front/mantlet is the most armored along with the front/top front of the tank.  Against some tanks it is usually suicide to stand and fight unless the ranges are less than 800 yards, and even then you'd better have the right gun or ammo. 

Also, I'd be willing to bet that HTC does not have much difference in a continous armor piece (as in the full side of the T34).  The issue is going to be what is on the other side of that armor that causes the tank to be destroyed.
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: Tigger29 on August 17, 2011, 07:58:01 PM
Don't forget this ground vehicle:

(http://i53.tinypic.com/axcz2v.jpg)
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: Butcher on August 18, 2011, 12:45:36 PM
Don't forget this ground vehicle:

(http://i53.tinypic.com/axcz2v.jpg)

Dude you had to put a box around the guys nads? seriously? What kinda man are you!
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: zippo on August 18, 2011, 02:37:33 PM
  Isn't the wirble supposed to be on a panzer chassis?  Seems that the wirble is easy to turret but can keep going after hits to the hull that would kill a panzer.  Anyone else noticed this?
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: skorpion on August 18, 2011, 03:33:07 PM
  Isn't the wirble supposed to be on a panzer chassis?  Seems that the wirble is easy to turret but can keep going after hits to the hull that would kill a panzer.  Anyone else noticed this?
the wirble isnt exactly a "panzer chassis" close, but not quite from what i know. also, the best way to kill/stop a wirby instantly is the engine, or the side of the drivers seat.
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: SmokinLoon on August 20, 2011, 12:29:54 PM
The Ostwind and Wirblewind have the same chassis as the Panzer IV.  Someone correct me if I am wrong.  I too will agree that both of the Osty and Wirby seem to shrug off the AP rounds much easier compared to the Panzer IV H.  I have not tested out the theory yet and probably wont until the Panzer IV is updated.  Anyone see the new pics of it yet?   ;)
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: skorpion on August 20, 2011, 12:59:03 PM
The Ostwind and Wirblewind have the same chassis as the Panzer IV.  Someone correct me if I am wrong.  I too will agree that both of the Osty and Wirby seem to shrug off the AP rounds much easier compared to the Panzer IV H.  I have not tested out the theory yet and probably wont until the Panzer IV is updated.  Anyone see the new pics of it yet?   ;)
i wonder if there ever going to remodel the panzer...but the H model of the panzer IV's were a bit thinner skinned so they put sacraficial skirts to protect it from the 18 y/olds with bazookas. oh, and if you look at the wirble/osti the chassis is different in a few ways. the wirble looks shorter, but i cant be sure.
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: SmokinLoon on August 20, 2011, 01:27:42 PM
i wonder if there ever going to remodel the panzer...but the H model of the panzer IV's were a bit thinner skinned so they put sacraficial skirts to protect it from the 18 y/olds with bazookas. oh, and if you look at the wirble/osti the chassis is different in a few ways. the wirble looks shorter, but i cant be sure.

The Panzer IV, the Wirblewind, and the Ostwind all have the same chassis.  The Panzer IV H has no less armor than the previous Panzer IV models, as a matter of fact the H has 30mm more frontal armor than previous models.  The armored skirts were added to help with shaped charges (iirc), not to make up the difference in "weaker" armor. ;)

Also, I'll have to go double check but the chassis under the Wirby and Osty is a "newer" version in AH compared to the Panzer IV.  They do not have the same graphics.  Maybe that means that when the Panzer IV is updated there will be less leg work because he chassis is already done???   :)
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: skorpion on August 20, 2011, 01:31:37 PM
The Panzer IV, the Wirblewind, and the Ostwind all have the same chassis.  The Panzer IV H has no less armor than the previous Panzer IV models, as a matter of fact the H has 30mm more frontal armor than previous models.  The armored skirts were added to help with shaped charges (iirc), not to make up the difference in "weaker" armor. ;)

Also, I'll have to go double check but the chassis under the Wirby and Osty is a "newer" version in AH compared to the Panzer IV.  They do not have the same graphics.  Maybe that means that when the Panzer IV is updated there will be less leg work because he chassis is already done???   :)
bazooka's, shaped charges *almost* the same thing. :) but im sure that the H model of the panzer IV had thinner armor on the sides but more armor in front. also, i found out why the osti/wirb shrugs off ap roudns better, the ammo storage placement is in the turret. not inside like most tanks. if you start pumping rounds into the chassis, you'd only kill the gunners and maybe the driver. if you hit the turret well, you just disabled a wirb. the best place to drop an AP round is right in the drivers compartment.
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: Tank-Ace on August 20, 2011, 01:46:47 PM
Nope. Compared to the Panzer III, it had thinner side armor, yes, but not to earlier versions.


And +1 to redone Panzer IV. Give us an Ausf. G (50mm frontal hull armor) as well so we have a decent ENY 35 tank.
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: skorpion on August 20, 2011, 01:48:30 PM
hell, ill take a StuG III Ausf. G and a new panzer!
Title: Re: GV soft spot help
Post by: SmokinLoon on August 20, 2011, 03:08:55 PM
hell, ill take a StuG III Ausf. G and a new panzer!

I agree.  Having a new Panzer IV H would be very nice.  Having the StuG III would be nice too!  If they introduce the StuG III I hope right on the heels of that they introduce the Panzer III J because those two use the same chassis.   :aok