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Title: Conan 2011
Post by: DREDIOCK on August 18, 2011, 09:52:28 PM
Looks like it might be a good'n

http://www.conanthebarbarianin3d.com/



(http://www.traileraddict.com/content/lionsgate/conan_2011-7.jpg)
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: SmokinLoon on August 18, 2011, 10:58:30 PM
I dunno. I will give it a chance, but it is hard to beat Ahnuld as Conan.  He was big, ugly, sounded dumb, and was one tough MF.  This guys seems a bit too small (though buff, no doubt.  He still doesnt fit the "brawny" type, imo), and too flashy.  I will probably go see it just because.

I just hope the movie "Flash Gordon" is remade.  They should being back Brian Blessed as Vultan once again regardless of his age, no one can replace him   :D    SqUUAAAdrruuunhn FooooohhhhTAAY!!!!....... ..... ....  DIIIIIIVE!   **key the music** :aok   
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: Rob52240 on August 18, 2011, 11:10:19 PM
Remember UHF?

Conan The Librarian
(http://www.iamstaggered.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/conan.jpg)

Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: ink on August 18, 2011, 11:22:36 PM
I dunno. I will give it a chance, but it is hard to beat Ahnuld as Conan.  He was big, ugly, sounded dumb, and was one tough MF.  This guys seems a bit too small (though buff, no doubt.  He still doesnt fit the "brawny" type, imo), and too flashy.  I will probably go see it just because.

I just hope the movie "Flash Gordon" is remade.  They should being back Brian Blessed as Vultan once again regardless of his age, no one can replace him   :D    SqUUAAAdrruuunhn FooooohhhhTAAY!!!!....... ..... ....  DIIIIIIVE!   **key the music** :aok    

to bad arnold was a very bad Conan.....how you describe Conan is NOTHING like REH's Conan :aok except the "tough" part :D


and I cant wait to see it :rock
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: PFactorDave on August 18, 2011, 11:23:07 PM
This guys seems a bit too small (though buff, no doubt.  He still doesnt fit the "brawny" type, imo),

I don't know, Jason Momoa isn't a small guy.  He might actually be an improvement over Arnold.  I liked him on the Stargate Atlantis series.
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: ink on August 18, 2011, 11:24:54 PM
I don't know, Jason Momoa isn't a small guy.  He might actually be an improvement over Arnold.  I liked him on the Stargate Atlantis series.

he ABSOLUTELY looks the part..... way better then arny
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: PFactorDave on August 18, 2011, 11:31:08 PM
he ABSOLUTELY looks the part..... way better then arny

Ya, I think I agree.  Reserving final judgement until after I have seen the movie.  Hollywood has an uncanny ability to totally screw the pooch when they have what should be an awesome movie concept.

For instance...

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/Davis_Andrews/b-471558-Pearl_Harbor_movie.jpg)
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: ink on August 18, 2011, 11:44:34 PM
Ya, I think I agree.  Reserving final judgement until after I have seen the movie.  Hollywood has an uncanny ability to totally screw the pooch when they have what should be an awesome movie concept.

For instance...

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/Davis_Andrews/b-471558-Pearl_Harbor_movie.jpg)

I hate to say it but I like pearl harbor :huh

I cant help it,although it's no where near my top that's for sure.

I am a huge Conan fan I first read him in 82 locked up, Frank Frezetta did the cover and I was just blown away, I read every Conan I could find, eventually I had over 55 books.

Frank Frezetta is my inspiration when it comes to art, his Conan's are the very best in description to REH's....and Jason looks far more like this guy then arny

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/frank_frazetta_manape.jpg)
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: PFactorDave on August 18, 2011, 11:48:03 PM
I hate to say it but I like pearl harbor :huh


You old softy!   :D

Thanks for posting that art!  I haven't seen any of those for years and years!  Good memories!  Great stuff!
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: Raphael on August 18, 2011, 11:56:33 PM
Skyrim  :noid
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: MachFly on August 18, 2011, 11:56:45 PM
Should be interesting.
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: soda72 on August 19, 2011, 02:55:30 PM
he ABSOLUTELY looks the part..... way better then arny

Better than arny?  :huh 

Are you smoking crack?  :D :P
 
Jason is a big guy, but he looks small compared to Arnold on the screen...

However I think checking out this new movie is worth it.  Jason was great in Stargate Atlantis..
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: SmokinLoon on August 19, 2011, 03:07:25 PM
Dont get me wrong, Jason Momoa looks the part of a bezerked barbarian very well.  The thing is though, like most original characters in movies it doesnt fit.  The image I have in my mind is a tall, brawny muscle bound, somewhat mentally challenged Arny looking of a guy.    :)  I think a big powerlifting dumbstruck Arnold when I think of Conan, not a ripped well toned triathlete bezerker.  :D   

I'm sure it will be fine, Jason Momoa will pull it off.  I'm anxious to see Rose as a witch, too.   ;)
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: ink on August 19, 2011, 05:06:40 PM
Better than arny?  :huh 

Are you smoking crack?  :D :P
 
Jason is a big guy, but he looks small compared to Arnold on the screen...

However I think checking out this new movie is worth it.  Jason was great in Stargate Atlantis..

Dont get me wrong, Jason Momoa looks the part of a bezerked barbarian very well.  The thing is though, like most original characters in movies it doesnt fit.  The image I have in my mind is a tall, brawny muscle bound, somewhat mentally challenged Arny looking of a guy.    :)  I think a big powerlifting dumbstruck Arnold when I think of Conan, not a ripped well toned triathlete bezerker.  :D   

I'm sure it will be fine, Jason Momoa will pull it off.  I'm anxious to see Rose as a witch, too.   ;)

you guys obviously never read the original Robert E Howard stories... first   Conan was a very intelligent individual for his world, he was Panther like, far from Muscle bound, REH describes him at around 16,  6'0" 180   with smoldering blue eyes and BLACK hair.

the movie's with Arnie are a disgrace to REH's Conan, don't get me wrong I very much enjoy the first movie but I don't think of it as a "Conan" movie.

if you enjoy the Conan stories and have never read Robert E Howard....well that is something you need to correct :aok
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: Rich52 on August 19, 2011, 05:56:07 PM
It came out today. I was going to see it but wasnt feeling well. The two star rateing didnt bother me cause thats what "Gladiator" got from these reviewers and went on to win the Oscar. Next week I'll go see the 3D version.
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: -tronski- on August 19, 2011, 09:25:32 PM
 Jason Momoa was awesome in Game of Thrones...but I've always loved the Schwarzenegger/Milius film

 Tronsky
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: Vudu15 on August 20, 2011, 07:56:21 AM
you guys obviously never read the original Robert E Howard stories... first   Conan was a very intelligent individual for his world, he was Panther like, far from Muscle bound, REH describes him at around 16,  6'0" 180   with smoldering blue eyes and BLACK hair.

the movie's with Arnie are a disgrace to REH's Conan, don't get me wrong I very much enjoy the first movie but I don't think of it as a "Conan" movie.

if you enjoy the Conan stories and have never read Robert E Howard....well that is something you need to correct :aok



This ^^^^^^ I just rebought the Death Dealer series that Frazetta did the cover art for as well.
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: Rich52 on August 20, 2011, 10:08:24 AM
you guys obviously never read the original Robert E Howard stories... first   Conan was a very intelligent individual for his world, he was Panther like, far from Muscle bound, REH describes him at around 16,  6'0" 180   with smoldering blue eyes and BLACK hair.

the movie's with Arnie are a disgrace to REH's Conan, don't get me wrong I very much enjoy the first movie but I don't think of it as a "Conan" movie.

if you enjoy the Conan stories and have never read Robert E Howard....well that is something you need to correct :aok

True but back in REHs day being 6' tall was like being 6.4" tall today. REH also described Conan as a "veritable giant". I was never a fan of Arnies Conan. Maybe cause the books and shorts were so descriptive and rich, writen by the greatest fantasy writer in history. Why did you have to die so young REH ? :cry There was so much left for you to do.
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: gyrene81 on August 20, 2011, 10:11:17 AM
you guys obviously never read the original Robert E Howard stories... first   Conan was a very intelligent individual for his world, he was Panther like, far from Muscle bound, REH describes him at around 16,  6'0" 180   with smoldering blue eyes and BLACK hair.

the movie's with Arnie are a disgrace to REH's Conan, don't get me wrong I very much enjoy the first movie but I don't think of it as a "Conan" movie.

if you enjoy the Conan stories and have never read Robert E Howard....well that is something you need to correct :aok
sounds familiar...i can still see the images those illustrations and books left in my head while i was reading at 2 a.m. with a flashlight, one of my all time favorite reads. the original short stories, the original books by howard himself, the ones finished for publishing after his death, and all of the for lack of a better term, reprints.

i found a list with some titles i missed in my youth...damn

http://www.conan.com/bibliography.shtml#1 (http://www.conan.com/bibliography.shtml#1)
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: ink on August 20, 2011, 03:56:44 PM
True but back in REHs day being 6' tall was like being 6.4" tall today. REH also described Conan as a "veritable giant". I was never a fan of Arnies Conan. Maybe cause the books and shorts were so descriptive and rich, writen by the greatest fantasy writer in history. Why did you have to die so young REH ? :cry There was so much left for you to do.

 a friend and I where talking about it last night....  he was 6' at 14 that's Howard's earliest story of him.

I agree Howard was the best of the best, he died because he was a momma's boy, he always told his mom when she dies he would to, an hour after she died he took his own life.

sad for sure.



This ^^^^^^ I just rebought the Death Dealer series that Frazetta did the cover art for as well.
some of my favorite by him were the Death Dealer's  :rock
 
my rendition in prisma color pencil


(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/n1263751988_30192364_4729344.jpg)
those books were written AFTER Frezetta did the paintings.

sounds familiar...i can still see the images those illustrations and books left in my head while i was reading at 2 a.m. with a flashlight, one of my all time favorite reads. the original short stories, the original books by howard himself, the ones finished for publishing after his death, and all of the for lack of a better term, reprints.

i found a list with some titles i missed in my youth...damn

http://www.conan.com/bibliography.shtml#1 (http://www.conan.com/bibliography.shtml#1)

they have out now a days, complete reprints of all of his works, unchanged, the ones you read as a kid were all "edited" find the newer ones they are great, not that the ones you read were not but, you can see the difference.

Howard you were great and sorely missed :salute
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: PR3D4TOR on August 20, 2011, 08:10:04 PM
Jason Momoa will do a fine job as Conan. Far better than Arnold ever did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnt71NBE9CM
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: Rich52 on August 21, 2011, 09:42:22 AM
Good film. By far the best of the Conan films. The real star of the film was the digital recreation of the Hyborian age.

Only issue was it was to short. Another 15 mins could have told the story better. 3 out of 4 stars.
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: ink on August 21, 2011, 03:11:52 PM
Good film. By far the best of the Conan films. The real star of the film was the digital recreation of the Hyborian age.

Only issue was it was to short. Another 15 mins could have told the story better. 3 out of 4 stars.

nice glad to hear. :rock

.will be seeing it soon.
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: DEECONX on August 22, 2011, 01:45:51 PM
I liked it alot. Only real complaint was not enough action, imo, and the 3D was lame, dont waste your money on that. The best part of the movie was the beginning, of him as a kid. THAT was brutal.
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: Shuffler on August 22, 2011, 04:07:11 PM
The scenes shown on commercials are not inspiring me to want to see the movie. I watched the originals last week. :D
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: Gh0stFT on August 24, 2011, 02:29:20 PM
Conan flops at the Box Office, the film made only around $10 million ($90 million budget) the first week.  ;)
Sorry Mamoa, there is only one real Conan, thats Arnie!  :D
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: Wiley on August 24, 2011, 02:53:16 PM
Kind of sad it's not going to be a success.  I consider it vastly superior to the Arnie movies.  For one thing, Mamoa can talk.  Conan wasn't a dumb brute, he was just direct and didn't waste words.  I thought that came across rather well in the remake.

I don't get the hate for this movie, the reviews and complaints I've read pretty much say 'one dimensional characters, paper thin plot... blahblahblah'.  Sounds like it's pretty true to the source material to me. ;)

Would the movie really be improved by scenes detailing Conan's character evolution as he reacts to his village being slaughtered and how that shaped his psyche?  I think not.  Folks killed his people.  They need killing.  Good enough for me.

I think it boils down to the fact that it's a common type of story, and people are really starting to backlash against 3D for the sake of 3D.

I enjoyed it.  Good violence.  Worth the price of admission for the childhood scenes alone.

YMMV.

Wiley.
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: sluggish on August 24, 2011, 03:01:39 PM
He's better than Leno but I've always prefered Dave over all of them.
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: mechanic on August 24, 2011, 03:09:20 PM
you guys obviously never read the original Robert E Howard stories... first   Conan was a very intelligent individual for his world, he was Panther like, far from Muscle bound, REH describes him at around 16,  6'0" 180   with smoldering blue eyes and BLACK hair.



I'm 6'0" and 175lbs made of pure muscle, but  I would look like a weed compared to either of the movie conans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG5pS_lRA48

For the sake of the movie, they needed a bigger guy than the original concept, if for nothing else than to draw in the female viewers.

Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: Becinhu on August 24, 2011, 03:14:30 PM
I liked the movie. My only complaint is that while there was plenty of fight scenes, I think they really dropped the ball with the final one.  I mean the big bad guy for the film gets killed falling through a hole.....I was hoping for much more.
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: ink on August 24, 2011, 03:34:31 PM

I'm 6'0" and 175lbs made of pure muscle, but  I would look like a weed compared to either of the movie conans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG5pS_lRA48

For the sake of the movie, they needed a bigger guy than the original concept, if for nothing else than to draw in the female viewers.




I saw ya in that vid of yours, I didn't see much muscle...just some skinny guy shooting arrows :headscratch:

 :D


and I completely disagree Conan was likened to a panther, Momoa looks far better then arnie as Conan :aok
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: mechanic on August 25, 2011, 07:04:20 AM
Exactly, so the idea that a 6'0" guy weighing 180lbs could pass as a movie conan is unfeasable. Btw I have real hard, flat muscle, not gym muscle, you don't want to get hit by me :D


here is an athlete who is 6' and 180lbs.

http://www.crawfordsmma.com/sites/site-227/images/da6db8bd-7f00-0001-01b7-66a49e14ad93.jpg


again, not that big looking, so 6' 180 is never goign to pass as a movie conan. Ya get what im saying?


The whole point I'm trying to get across to you is that while the original Conan concept of 6' 180 would be accurate in that he would be agile, fast, and powerful, today's image obcessed audiances need someone much bigger and much less realistic to make them believe in a film version of Conan. Which in some ways is quite sad.
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: Meatwad on August 25, 2011, 07:22:07 AM
Here is a good canidate for a remake

(http://scuwiffy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/howard-the-duck.jpg)
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: VonMessa on August 25, 2011, 07:29:35 AM
I dunno. I will give it a chance, but it is hard to beat Ahnuld as Conan.  He was big, ugly, sounded dumb, and was one tough MF.  This guys seems a bit too small (though buff, no doubt.  He still doesnt fit the "brawny" type, imo), and too flashy.  I will probably go see it just because.

I just hope the movie "Flash Gordon" is remade.  They should being back Brian Blessed as Vultan once again regardless of his age, no one can replace him   :D    SqUUAAAdrruuunhn FooooohhhhTAAY!!!!....... ..... ....  DIIIIIIVE!   **key the music** :aok   

The Conan of Robert E. Howard's imagination was NOTHING like the Governator's Conan.
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: Rich52 on August 25, 2011, 10:36:35 AM
Two of my faves were "Beyond the Black River" and "A witch shall be born". But the truth is there were so many great Conan stories its hard to pick a fave, and not all writen by REH either. I used to have them all, as well as the comics. but now? I only have a few tattered old paperbacks  :frown:
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: MiloMorai on August 25, 2011, 12:15:49 PM
Guess I will wait til it shown on TV.

What Hollywood should do is The Horse Clans written by Robert Adams.
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: Wiley on August 25, 2011, 12:26:50 PM
The whole point I'm trying to get across to you is that while the original Conan concept of 6' 180 would be accurate in that he would be agile, fast, and powerful, today's image obcessed audiances need someone much bigger and much less realistic to make them believe in a film version of Conan. Which in some ways is quite sad.

Looking at the artwork on the book covers the dude they generally put there, assuming 6' tall looks to be 220/240ish and ripped depending on the artist.

The image I always had in my head was of a guy that's 6' and change, ~200 lbs well muscled, but 'working' muscle, not defined like a bodybuilder, with exceptional body grace and speed.  *shrug*

Wiley.
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: mechanic on August 25, 2011, 04:38:34 PM
sure Wiley, I replied in reference to Ink's post saying the original Conan was 6' 180 if you read back a page or so.
Title: Re: Conan 2011
Post by: ink on August 25, 2011, 07:14:07 PM
sure Wiley, I replied in reference to Ink's post saying the original Conan was 6' 180 if you read back a page or so.

that was at the age of 14-15.... :aok

in the new movie they mention him being a part of a hoard of cimmerians going over the walls of vanarium (sp?)   that was from Howard himself.

I understand what you are saying, but the fact remains Conan was not a hulking dumb barbarian, Arnie made him look especially in the second move.

they also mention the tower of the elephant which I think is cool, that shoulda been the movie they made.

I chuckled at the "not wanting to be hit by ya" comment... :rolleyes:

Two of my faves were "Beyond the Black River" and "A witch shall be born". But the truth is there were so many great Conan stories its hard to pick a fave, and not all writen by REH either. I used to have them all, as well as the comics. but now? I only have a few tattered old paperbacks  :frown:

all of Howard's were great, none of the other author's came close to him, but a few did a good job, Decamp, Jordan, and carpenter, were good, the rest kinda sucked.

Red Nails is my favorite, Loved beyond the black river, hell ALL of Howard's works are insane, Conan's just my favorite