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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Citabria on August 21, 2011, 05:37:17 AM
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See Rule #8
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so what of this jeeptard? banhammer worthy or clever exploiter of unrealistic holes in the game code?
Banhammer worthy? No way.
Clever? Not really.
unrealistic hole in the game code? Absolutely, and as such it's something for the bugs section.
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this has been around since tanks where brought in. film it send it in last time i brought it up to skuzzy he said well he deserves it for letting another gv drive into his tank and shoot him LOL i dont think its something that can be fixed due to them letting other gvs drive thru each other
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unrealistic hole in the game code? Absolutely, and as such it's something for the bugs section.
Yep. :aok
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This is 4 day old road kill. Honestly, the smell. Now everyone knows about this tacky move, "I didnt know before", and more will be using it. I must have watched every episode of "Rat Patrol" and never once saw a jeep drive "inside" a Panzer and MG everyone it it.
Funny but since you cant drive thru trees and shrubs why cant they write for not allowing drive thrus thru other color chess pieces ?
Tacky and gamey. Made worse by AH inaction.
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:O you can do that with a jeep???? thanks... gonna try that tomorrow.... :rofl :rofl :rofl
could we continue this negative thread abt jeeptards tomorrow after i try it out pls??.. :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Tacky and gamey. Made worse by AH inaction.
^^^ This
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Just one more reason to kill jeeps with 262's...
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Nyancat > Muppets
(http://images.wikia.com/creepypasta/images/9/99/Nyan-Cat-Screensaver_tx2y-1-.jpg)
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Seems to me it'd be an easy fix. I can fly through a green plane, I collide if I hit a red plane. Red planes collide with me all the time in a tank... they also cannot fly through me. I don't see how this should be an issue, except if by some weird chance if you turn collisions on a panzer dies when a jeep runs into it due to the damage model.
I can see the lagtards now runing around ramming people with their jeep and blowing up Tiger II's and driving off unscathed getting on 200 saying, "IT SAYS YOU COLLIDED WITH ME!!!" :x
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Just mad cause you forgot how to use your machine gun to kill the not-so-invincible jeeps
oh... if they're inside you... USE HE ROUNDS AND FIRE THEM STRAIGHT INTO THE GROUND cause that will kill them
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Funny but since you cant drive thru trees and shrubs why cant they write for not allowing drive thrus thru other color chess pieces ?
Tacky and gamey. Made worse by AH inaction.
Why is it so common for someone to first question why something isn't done, expressing no knowledge of game code mechanics, then claim inaction by AH?
So go recode the physics model and tell them how it should be done.
You can pass through planes, collisions are off. Simple fix would be turn collisions on, but then you have a major problem with everyone flying around crashing into each other and spawning missions at the same time.
Someone wasn't paying attention and let a Jeep sneak up on a tank and AH inaction is the problem? You guys crack me up sometimes.
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wouldn't this be as simple as turning on collisions for gv's?
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Someone wasn't paying attention and let a Jeep sneak up on a tank and AH inaction is the problem? You guys crack me up sometimes.
Situation Awareness... not just for planes :rofl :rofl
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he got the point that it should've been reported as a bug. stop beating a dead horse, before somebody really brings down the banhammer.
semp
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Someone wasn't paying attention and let a Jeep sneak up on a tank and AH inaction is the problem? You guys crack me up sometimes.
Let the record show that ROC thinks it is good that jeeps can drive through tanks and kill them from the inside out. Let the record show this.
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so I was having a great time in the old ozkansas map tank town that I designed long ago running amok in a panther, plinking tanks in an il2, dweebing a bit in a p40E.
late night (in game dusk low visibility as well) my side is way outnumbered so we had almost free perk tanks. I upped a Tiger II for 40 perk points to defend a vbase from an onslaught of m3s tanks etc.
killed many sets of troops and the attacking tanks and m3s.
being as the base is surrounded by hills I drove up next to some buildings to limit some of the angles I would be exposed to incoming tank rounds.
during this time unbeknownst to me Nyancat had snuck up on me in a jeep and drove inside my tank. I heard 3-4 pings then was back in the tower. Nyancat proceeds to flame on ch200 about his amazing squeektacularness.
It then made sense to me what he was up to all night. I had killed his jeep about a dozen times tonight while he was attempting to use this exploit to take down enemy tanks.
this is an old as dirt exploit that I thought was fixed. guess its not.
so what of this jeeptard? banhammer worthy or clever exploiter of unrealistic holes in the game code?
Thought they fixed this bug a couple of versions ago?
Guess either its back or it wasnt fixed.
Just set collisions for opposing GVs like you have for planes. A Jeep or a tank colliding with another tank would cause some damages to both of IRL Im guessing. Dunno cause I've never ramed a tank with a jeep. Seems the obvious fix though
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falls under the same category as "landing" tanks.
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From the man himself.
Think how lag factors into this, when you detect a collision you stop like with a tree. So does other guy, except you both saw each other after the fact, so you stop inside each other. Now what happens since you are still colliding.
Think about speeds lags and such, and then you will start to see the essence of the problem. And hence why it is not the same as colliding with an object that does not move.
HiTech
Ever bump into a building at 1MPH and spin like a top until your tank flips over? I suspect you could do this at will to enemy tanks, which would result in far more, and worse, exploits then just carbombing tanks. It's not a bug; it was a choice.
edit: I know this has been happening for a while, but I didn't realize how long. Looking for a more detailed breakdown by one of the HTC guys, found this. :)
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,221731.0.html
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I've been that jeep before killing a tank from the inside. But I shot a T-34 and I was In a tiger.
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so what of this jeeptard? banhammer worthy or clever exploiter of unrealistic holes in the game code?
Thats an old one, Its been there since I've been playing which is about 7 years now. I've actually used it a couple of times when I first started playing. Ban worthy? Absolutely not! I say exploit the bugs until HTC fixes them or they will never get fixed.
~BPARKER
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Let the record show that ROC thinks it is good that jeeps can drive through tanks and kill them from the inside out. Let the record show this.
Let the record show that I think you gals over react and want other people to solve problems you can solve yourself. I for one have never had a jeep slip into my tank and kill me, and would be rather embarrassed to bring it up as someone elses problem to solve. There is a solution already built into the game. Pay attention and shoot the jeep with a tank before they get to you.
Now don't try to put words in my mouth, you are neither correct nor clever.
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i had someone sorta do that to me. they were on the same side......drove into me while i was shooting at an enemy....i kill shot myself...so i just re-upped, and went on doing what i wanted...i was pissed at the time, but it's only a game, so it didn't last long.
enable collisions for gv's and this'll stop though./
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Wow I just read this post, and Nyancat tried twice to drive into my panther with a jeep. First I ever knew this was an exploit :(
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Let the record show that I think you gals over react and want other people to solve problems you can solve yourself. I for one have never had a jeep slip into my tank and kill me, and would be rather embarrassed to bring it up as someone elses problem to solve. There is a solution already built into the game. Pay attention and shoot the jeep with a tank before they get to you.
Now don't try to put words in my mouth, you are neither correct nor clever.
My interpretation of your post was that it's fine the way it is and Citabria is a whiner. So if you think it is fine the way it is, then that means that you are okay with jeeps being able to drive through tanks and shoot them from inside out, like from The Matrix or something. The fact of whether or not Citabria should have seen the jeep is irrelevant. The issue is a jeep being able to drive through a tank. I can only assume you think it is okay that jeeps can drive through tanks on OZKansas based on your response, which is pretty ridiculous.
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The fact of whether or not Citabria should have seen the jeep is irrelevant.
If you say so :)
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I think it is hilarious and I am perfectly fine with jeeps being able to do this. I would not advertise the fact I had let myself get killed by a jeep in this way. I also think Citabria has been whining quite alot lately about a number of age old issues.
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If you say so :)
It is irrelevant. A jeep or any other vehicle should not be able to 'Go Inside' another vehicle/plane period. Now, if you could kill the driver from the outside with a well placed shot, that would be a totally different matter. Think of it this way...
If your tiger/panzer/panther/M4/T34 has it's (insert top machinegun name here) removed (or in the case of a T34, not have one at all) by attacking air units what defense do you have against this fast little jeep? You can't out run it, out turn it, or at this point, out gun it because a smart jeep won't let your turret turn on him. So basically you have a jeep now that can, without restriction, kill any perked/non perked GV in the game if it has even the slightest damage. There also is no defense from 'tossing a grenade in.' I can't lock my hatch to keep your grenade out. I can't shoot you in the shin with my sidearm or through the hatch when I realize you are leaving so I have no fear of a grenade.. I have nothing. I might as well be turreted with my engine out.
I thought this had been fixed, like many others have said.
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Must be a sign Fester is back to playing a lot :)
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that guy ??? is very funny....I am waiting for him to get a stick cause he wants to show me how to fly things properly (apparently I am really bad)....Granted he is good with aim in a GV...using a known exploit like that I'm sure he won't be without a squad for very long...I'm sure the recruiters are offering promises of grandeur already :lol :lol :lol
can you imagine it with the same coding as with the trees....all sorts of fun could be had.....tank chicken hahahaha...just hope yours lands feet first after the collision...man that would be funny...it would make for some awesome screenshots too
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My interpretation of your post was that it's fine the way it is and Citabria is a whiner. So if you think it is fine the way it is, then that means that you are okay with jeeps being able to drive through tanks and shoot them from inside out, like from The Matrix or something. The fact of whether or not Citabria should have seen the jeep is irrelevant. The issue is a jeep being able to drive through a tank. I can only assume you think it is okay that jeeps can drive through tanks on OZKansas based on your response, which is pretty ridiculous.
It's jeep payback for all the 262 jeep killers :)
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No Ban just needs to be fixed.
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If you say so :)
Oh come on ROC, you can stand up for your strawman a little bit better than that, this just makes it no fun for me to shred apart. :aok
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I understand your frustration but it is something we should all be aware of. I know I'm not the only one who forgets that some of the game physics just don't represent the real world. :cheers:
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:rofl :lol COAD FAIL :rofl :lol
No excuses really, you wouldn't get that BS in Battlefield, lag or no lag :bolt:
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This thread has all the noobs driving jeeps in TT tonight. :headscratch: What is the code to spin the pintle guns again on German armour?
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IMO It's the HTC equivalent of walking up to a tank and dropping a grenade into the driver's view port.
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:rofl :lol COAD FAIL :rofl :lol
No excuses really, you wouldn't get that BS in Battlefield, lag or no lag :bolt:
Yep. I am a fan of HTC and admire their work, but I also feel constructive criticism is warranted in some cases. For a company that strives for perfection in realism down to the smallest cockpit details, this should have been fixed a long time ago.
I wonder if WOT has this problem...
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Yep. I am a fan of HTC and admire their work, but I also feel constructive criticism is warranted in some cases. For a company that strives for perfection in realism down to the smallest cockpit details, this should have been fixed a long time ago.
I wonder if WOT has this problem...
+1
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Yep. I am a fan of HTC and admire their work, but I also feel constructive criticism is warranted in some cases. For a company that strives for perfection in realism down to the smallest cockpit details, this should have been fixed a long time ago.
I wonder if WOT has this problem...
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Seems like if it is a problem where the driver can be killed by an MG round fired inside, HTC needs to make the driver unkillable or surround him with an armor box that the MG cannot penetrate or something. Seems like there should be a way to fix this issue.
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Yep. I am a fan of HTC and admire their work, but I also feel constructive criticism is warranted in some cases. For a company that strives for perfection in realism down to the smallest cockpit details, this should have been fixed a long time ago.
I wonder if WOT has this problem...
The fix is not to let another vehicle that close.
WoT have a completely different physics engine and in a way they do have the same problem but in reverse, if that makes any sense.
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It could be argued that allowing another gv to drive inside your's might be the equivalent of allowing someone to crawl atop your tank and drop a grenade inside. This "glitch" probably wasn't meant to simulate that, but that lack of SA in a tank would leave the tank crew in great peril.
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It could be argued that allowing another gv to drive inside your's might be the equivalent of allowing someone to crawl atop your tank and drop a grenade inside. This "glitch" probably wasn't meant to simulate that, but that lack of SA in a tank would leave the tank crew in great peril.
The fix is not to let another vehicle that close.
WoT have a completely different physics engine and in a way they do have the same problem but in reverse, if that makes any sense.
I don't reason with people who miss the point so fabulously.
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Hmmm.....sounds like it's time to get some tank kills in a chute.
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the thing i dont understand is why is it you can fly/drive through friendlies, but if you fly into an enemy its a collsions (or visa verse depending on lag and the sorts), but yet you can drive into an enemy tank :headscratch: never understood it....
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This "bug" is extremely old. What I don't understand is that I thought something was done to fix it long ago, because the rash of Jeep-inside-your-tank-killing-you stopped long ago and only restarted recently. If it wasn't fixed, why did it stop? Did everyone just decide to be good boys? Did they just forget the exploit? Or did HTC remove the fix (which I vaguely recall involved rounds not being effective until they traveled a certain distance, leading to a different "bug" of point blank shots being ineffective)?
By the way, it is possible, depending on your position, to be unable to defend against this: if you are in town near a corner the Jeep can turn in behind you and be close enough that you can't depress the main gun (or therefore the coax) to hit them. This is relevant, of course, only the the tanks without AA like the T34s, and the HE trick probably still works.
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I tried this a few times at a spawn tonight and found it impossible to actually kill a tank. I turreted a few but that was the only success I had. I guess I don't know the secret to actually getting the kill.
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Sometimes when I can't get my immobile countrymen to turn off their annoying engines I'll drive over and sit on top of/inside of them to piss them off. If they move I move to stay interlocked with them. It's hilarious sometimes.
If they fixed this age old issue I'd no longer have a harmless yet equally annoying recourse against these guys.
:aok Jeep in the tank = pants on the ground.
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the thing i dont understand is why is it you can fly/drive through friendlies, but if you fly into an enemy its a collsions (or visa verse depending on lag and the sorts), but yet you can drive into an enemy tank :headscratch: never understood it....
hmmm, gotta rethink my earlier post. That tactic in a jeep vs. a Tiger, or even an M3 for that matter would likely not fair well for the jeep... And it might be even be fun to crush a few jeep jockeys.
On that note, I suggest we fix the bug, and add the the M18 to the game... at least it's speed has the chance of cornering a jeep in the open field (<--- Shameless plug for BAR and Wntrgrn)