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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Tyrannis on September 03, 2011, 07:56:40 PM
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Sometimes when My squad mates are in a tank or theirs a decent size GV battle going on, I'll up a jeep and "Scout" ahead of the main group for enemy tanks. I tell Ppl over vox where the enemy tanks are, sometimes pull up next to them to show where they are. or shoot at them to "mark" them.
This is all fun, and (i hope) helpful to the people i do it too.
The downside tho, is that i dont earn any perkies for doing this :(
It would be nice if jeeps/m3's.st/Any ground vehicle that could be considered a "scout" vehicle could gain perkies from assists.
Maybe add a new "scout" Class to the GV list. Similier to how Fighter planes have both fighter/attack. Jeeps/m3's(non TD)/M8/Sdk would have a "scout" option that would let them earn perkies from assists, or some other way to "scout" vehicles.
Having a new scout class could encourage people to use the tactic more, along with opening the door to other previous vehicles of ww2 that before could not survive in AH, but now would have a purpose.
:pray Just my wish.
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so you want perks for "spotting" a tank that anyone could have found if they looked?
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so you want perks for "spotting" a tank that anyone could have found if they looked?
I'll up a jeep and "Scout" ahead of the main group for enemy tanks.
Scouting can become useful, especially in Heavely wooded areas. Where tanks can hide in the trees and be hard to spot, When A jeep can get around behind the enemies main line to spot their hiding spots before friendly tank forces could ever see them.
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While it sounds great on paper, put into practice, you're going to see guys driving nothing but jeeps and M8s until they have enough perks for a Tiger. And until they fix the park-inside-enemy-tank-shoot-insta-kill thing, this is just going to make it worse.
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Scouting can become useful, especially in Heavely wooded areas. Where tanks can hide in the trees and be hard to spot, When A jeep can get around behind the enemies main line to spot their hiding spots before friendly tank forces could ever see them.
where in real life did you see a jeep go out to scout for heavier tanks?
While it sounds great on paper, put into practice, you're going to see guys driving nothing but jeeps and M8s until they have enough perks for a Tiger. And until they fix the park-inside-enemy-tank-shoot-insta-kill thing, this is just going to make it worse.
^ this.
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While it sounds great on paper, put into practice, you're going to see guys driving nothing but jeeps and M8s until they have enough perks for a Tiger. And until they fix the park-inside-enemy-tank-shoot-insta-kill thing, this is just going to make it worse.
Not asking for Alot of perkies gained, just some to make the effort beneficial to the Scouter
where in real life did you see a jeep go out to scout for heavier tanks?
Jeeps scouted for Many things..
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Jeeps scouted for Many things..
please give me 3 instances where jeeps went to scout for tanks that would kill them with the pintle gun. the US never sent men on a suicide mission.
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please give me 3 instances where jeeps went to scout for tanks that would kill them with the pintle gun. the US never sent men on a suicide mission.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1942-1944-jeep.htm/printable
Jeeps were converted into highly mobile reconnaissance and radio units, capable of traveling into enemy locations, reporting troop strength, and returning unnoticed.
Recon=Scouting.
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Uses of the jeep were endless. Oftentimes the jeep's hood served as a chaplain's altar, or as a card table for the more secular-minded. Suitably equipped, it could become a portable powerplant for aircraft searchlights, floodlights, shortwave radio sets, radar equipment, even welding apparatuses. It could be used as a field telephone exchange, a food supply unit for front-line fighters, or a medical unit for front-line first-aid.
i never once saw anything that said they scouted for tanks. troop strength and enemy locations have nothing to do with looking for enemy tanks. the jeep would have been killed instantly by any tank with a gun better than a 6mm bb.
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please give me 3 instances where jeeps went to scout for tanks that would kill them with the pintle gun. the US never sent men on a suicide mission.
Armored recon units would use various vehicles for scouting, from the M8 to the jeep and there are thousands upon thousands of examples of a jeep being used in such a fashion. However, this doesn't mean that one deserves perks for basically driving around looking for stuff.
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Armored recon units would use various vehicles for scouting, from the M8 to the jeep and there are thousands upon thousands of examples of a jeep being used in such a fashion. However, this doesn't mean that one deserves perks for basically driving around looking for stuff.
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If you have someone who is kind enough to up a scout vehicle to assist you in locating&destroying enemy tanks that help to raise your own perk count, Doesnt he deserve a little something for his troubles too? Since he's decided to help the main tank force, Instead of lone wolfing it in his own tank like everyone else.
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If you have someone who is kind enough to up a scout vehicle to assist you in locating&destroying enemy tanks that help to raise your own perk count, Doesnt he deserve a little something for his troubles too? Since he's decided to help the main tank force, Instead of lone wolfing it in his own tank like everyone else.
didnt you think, for just 2 seconds before you made this thread? heres how it works.
GV1:*spots tanks (lets say a tiger and a M4)
GV2:*kills tank*
GV1:*lands and gets perks for just driving near a tank and shooting it once with a .50 cal*
GV2:*gets perks for killing tank*
can you see how this would lead to endless perk farming?
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didnt you think, for just 2 seconds before you made this thread? heres how it works.
GV1:*spots tanks (lets say a tiger and a M4)
GV2:*kills tank*
GV1:*lands and gets perks for just driving near a tank and shooting it once with a .50 cal*
GV2:*gets perks for killing tank*
can you see how this would lead to endless perk farming?
Not asking for Alot of perkies gained, just some to make the effort beneficial to the Scouter
Did you think for just 2 seconds of rereading what i have previously said?
Sure, it could become a perk farm IF the perk gain was set too high.
Which is NOT what im asking. They could set it low. Where you only get .15 for each assist you get from scouting.
Seems balanced, You still have to drive around to find an enemy tank Making yourself vunerable to being spotted, You still need a friendly tank to take them out, and like you said, The jeep can be taken out by a single .50, so it couldnt be "overpowered".
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How does the game know to give you perkies for spotting? If you're close enough to the enemy when he gets popped? Pinging him with one bullet? What if more than one scout is running around; who gets the almighty fractional perk?
Scouting for you side should come from your heart, not your perk account. :aok
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Sure, it could become a perk farm IF the perk gain was set too high.
whats "too high"? 1 perk? 2? also, if its only .15 perks then nobody would do it. you should probably think of the small things first.
if you want a scout then just ask if somebody would do it. they could just up a plane and drop a rocket on the tank or just shoot at it.
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whats "too high"? 1 perk? 2? also, if its only .15 perks then nobody would do it. you should probably think of the small things first.
if you want a scout then just ask if somebody would do it. they could just up a plane and drop a rocket on the tank or just shoot at it.
Oh yes, because turning a good tank fight into a bomb fest is the perfect alternative to what i suggest :rolleyes:
@ dot, that would be for HTC to decide, and i agree with your last statement, but still. i used to do it from the heart, and i did it alot, which is why sadly i dont have any perkies to up any of the fun toys because ive been spotting so much. :(
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Oh yes, because turning a good tank fight into a bomb fest is the perfect alternative to what i suggest :rolleyes:
you obviously need to learn how to read things. i said if you want someone to mark tanks, they should use ROCKETS and GUNS. never in there did i say bombs. :rolleyes: now, go to a real WW2 vet and say that bombing tanks was stupid and useless and that tanks should have fought tanks. they came up with the wirblewind/osty/M16 for a reason you know. if you want to end the so called "bomb tarding" then use these tools to keep them away.
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I want perks for scouting for tanks while in my plane. I mark them and give direction.
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I spot by crashing my plane into the tank while screaming "HERE THEY ARE!". :devil
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I spot by crashing my plane into the tank while screaming "HERE THEY ARE!". :devil
:rofl dont you just collide and die? *2 minutes later a PM comes saying your a ram tard* :lol
I want perks for scouting for tanks while in my plane. I mark them and give direction.
semp
its all about them perks...:noid
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you obviously need to learn how to read things. i said if you want someone to mark tanks, they should use ROCKETS and GUNS.
From what ive heard the phrase "bomb tard" used, it counts for any explosives used against a tank. So even if you used rockets it would label you a "bomb tard", from how ive heard it used.
go to a real WW2 vet and say that bombing tanks was stupid and useless and that tanks should have fought tanks
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Real life =/= Aces high. In real Life you didnt have lanc-stukas, Tanks sinking Cv's, Shermans fighting T34's(except korea) Or many other various things in this game that makes it FAR from a true following of WW2 history.
Bombing tanks is effective, yes. But in a game where its hard enough to find a good GV battle, everyone hates it when suddenly a bomber shows up and kills the fresh new tiger tank you just upped.
And also, Who here is arguing the effectiveness of bombing tanks in ww2? Why you even said that sentence, i have not the slightest clue. :rolleyes:
they came up with the wirblewind/osty/M16 for a reason you know. if you want to end the so called "bomb tarding" then use these tools to keep them away.
To use those Anti-air vehicles effectively in a GV battle, you need Many wirbles spread out among a mass amount of area, Because gvs in aces high do not move in any type of formation. Most usually go their own path.So the protection of wirbles become Very limited.
Second, I have never witnessed a Gv battle fully protected by wirbles. Upping wirbles doesn't discourage anyone from bombering, It just encourages them to stay away from wirble.
Scorpion, Why are you even commenting on the matter? Let alone trying to throw GV battle tactics? You dont even play online do you? I havent seen you online in Months, and someone in another thread said all you do is offline missions, So how could you possably have enough knowledge from offline missions to say the things that you are? :huh
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Scorpion, Why are you even commenting on the matter? Let alone trying to throw GV battle tactics? You dont even play online do you? I havent seen you online in Months, and someone in another thread said all you do is offline missions, So how could you possably have enough knowledge from offline missions to say the things that you are? :huh
not all is what it seems to be to the unenlightened. :noid
From what ive heard the phrase "bomb tard" used, it counts for any explosives used against a tank. So even if you used rockets it would label you a "bomb tard", from how ive heard it used.
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Real life =/= Aces high. In real Life you didnt have lanc-stukas, Tanks sinking Cv's, Shermans fighting T34's(except korea) Or many other various things in this game that makes it FAR from a true following of WW2 history.
Bombing tanks is effective, yes. But in a game where its hard enough to find a good GV battle, everyone hates it when suddenly a bomber shows up and kills the fresh new tiger tank you just upped.
Second, I have never witnessed a Gv battle fully protected by wirbles. Upping wirbles doesn't discourage anyone from bombering, It just encourages them to stay away from wirble.
obviously bombers going stuka didnt happen IRL, if you want Allied tanks fighting Axis go to the AvA. kind of why its made and this GAME is made on historically accurate modeling of vehicles, not battles. if you dont have the brains to kill the "bomb tards" with a flak over and over again until they get discouraged you shouldnt really be talking. if bomb tarding in a game means your a noob then why did HT give us the bombs and rockets/guns to do that very thing? is it because hes not cool and cant fight in gv's? no. and ive seen VERY many GV battles protected by wirbles. when i was on in december of last year there was an amazing GV fight going on. i thought id go ahead and score a few panzer kills in a b25h. i get over there and theres a TON of flaks waiting for enemy cons on each side, they all open up and i leave with only 1 kill and half of my plane functions still working.
"if you bomb a tank in a game then you win. if you kill another tank in a tank you win. if you bomb a perk tank you win x2." thats how the game is these days. apparantly you have been bombed too many times and now think that bomb tarding isnt legal game nature and is now shunned.
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not all is what it seems to be to the unenlightened. :noid
obviously bombers going stuka didnt happen IRL, if you want Allied tanks fighting Axis go to the AvA. kind of why its made and this GAME is made on historically accurate modeling of vehicles, not battles. if you dont have the brains to kill the "bomb tards" with a flak over and over again until they get discouraged you shouldnt really be talking. if bomb tarding in a game means your a noob then why did HT give us the bombs and rockets/guns to do that very thing? is it because hes not cool and cant fight in gv's? no. and ive seen VERY many GV battles protected by wirbles. when i was on in december of last year there was an amazing GV fight going on. i thought id go ahead and score a few panzer kills in a b25h. i get over there and theres a TON of flaks waiting for enemy cons on each side, they all open up and i leave with only 1 kill and half of my plane functions still working.
"if you bomb a tank in a game then you win. if you kill another tank in a tank you win. if you bomb a perk tank you win x2." thats how the game is these days. apparantly you have been bombed too many times and now think that bomb tarding isnt legal game nature and is now shunned.
Everything you say becomes nullified by the fact that you dont even play online therefore have no idea how current gv battles take place and are only talking tactics from vehicle discriptions of their purposes. :bhead
Anyone else, Good or Bad idea?
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Everything you say becomes nullified by the fact that you dont even play online therefore have no idea how current gv battles take place and are only talking tactics from vehicle discriptions of their purposes. :bhead
Anyone else, Good or Bad idea?
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so EVERY SINGLE THING changes when one leaves? im 100% sure for the past 10 years not much has changed tactic wise.
bad idea.
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so EVERY SINGLE THING changes when one leaves? im 100% sure for the past 10 years not much has changed tactic wise.
bad idea.
Im pretty sure that:
1. you havent played for 10 years.
2. You still have no idea what you are talking about.
3. You havent fought many, if at all, GV battles.
Otherwise you wouldn't be saying things like "Someone bombing your gvs? up a wirble/w.e and prob solved dumby!"
Please move along, this topic is for ONLINE Gv players who Gv regularly and therefore have more experiance to share than yourself :rolleyes:
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Im pretty sure that:
1. you havent played for 10 years. <-neither have you
2. You still have no idea what you are talking about. <-you think you know? yeah...ok...
3. You havent fought many, if at all, GV battles. <-far more to count.
Otherwise you wouldn't be saying things like "Someone bombing your gvs? up a wirble/w.e and prob solved dumby!"
Please move along, this topic is for ONLINE Gv players who Gv regularly and therefore have more experiance to share than yourself :rolleyes:
get your facts straight before you talk.
my favorite thing in AH to do is bombing of cities, bases, strats ect... and gving. im 100% sure on what im saying. ask alot of people on how to stop a bomber from killing your tank and they will say "up a plane and kill it" or "up a flak and kill it" what other ways would there be? hmm?
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get your facts straight before you talk.
my favorite thing in AH to do is bombing of cities, bases, strats ect... and gving. im 100% sure on what im saying. ask alot of people on how to stop a bomber from killing your tank and they will say "up a plane and kill it" or "up a flak and kill it" what other ways would there be? hmm?
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Im not even going to bother responding to you anymore, because you still have no idea what you are talking about :bhead
Back on topic: now :)
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@ dot, that would be for HTC to decide, and i agree with your last statement, but still. i used to do it from the heart, and i did it alot, which is why sadly i dont have any perkies to up any of the fun toys because ive been spotting so much. :(
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you do know this entire thread has been made because you dont have enough perks to play with the big toys. stop being selfish and just go earn the perks the hard way.
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so EVERY SINGLE THING changes when one leaves? im 100% sure for the past 10 years not much has changed tactic wise.
bad idea.
Yep, nothing has changed in regards to tank tactics since GVs were introduced. Spawn camping was the number one tactic 10+ years ago and still is today.
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you want some BS from WOTs it aint happening.................... .....
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you want some BS from WOTs it aint happening.................... .....
:rofl i was thinking that too. maybe he's been playing too much WOT lately.
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I think yer s'posd to drive yer jeep inside there and open fire.
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You don't get perks for giving someone with a knocked out turret or engine gv supplies either.
Karma.
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I think yer s'posd to drive yer jeep inside there and open fire.
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:rofl THIS!