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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Tupac on September 26, 2011, 03:01:41 PM
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Saw this posted a a pilot forum today
Just a reminder to check TFRs before you fly. I just watched an F-15 intercept a Stearman during a Presidential TFR. The TFR is centered on SJC (San Jose), and over here in Santa Cruz is well within the boundaries.
I heard the Eagle, next heard and saw the yellow Stearman (certainly from WVI - Watsonville) cruising low and slow along the coast, then saw the intercept from about a mile away. Turned on the handheld and heard the Eagle driver calling on guard, but no response. The Stearman did get the idea and I last saw them headed back toward WVI with the F-15 in high alpha leading the way.
I suspect that if you want some Stearman time, there is one at WVI that might otherwise be sitting idle for some time to come.
Internet or LockMart, it's pretty easy to find the TFRs.
Thank FSM we are safe from another sky terrorist!
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Man I hate those Presidential TFR. All the other ones I can understand, but it's really not worth grounding 1000+ people just because there is some VIP is in the area. They either need to stop making those TFRs or VIPs should not be allowed out of DC.
Thankfully now I live in the middle of nowhere and VIPs have no reason to come here. :) :aok
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Earlier in the year a little old lady, yes she is 75, had the same thing happen to her.
http://frankmerrill.org/2011/lee-bottom-flying-field-issues-first-non-governmental-tfr.htm
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heheh I like how the airport set up theyre own TFR in response. Good stuff! :aok
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Saw this posted a a pilot forum today
Thank FSM we are safe from another sky terrorist!
*facepalm* And Obama hasn't even landed here at LAX at 5pm today... yet...
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Man I hate those Presidential TFR. All the other ones I can understand, but it's really not worth grounding 1000+ people just because there is some VIP is in the area. They either need to stop making those TFRs or VIPs should not be allowed out of DC.
Thankfully now I live in the middle of nowhere and VIPs have no reason to come here. :) :aok
you got it wrong. when they;re IN dc, they eff things up. what needs to happen, is when they leave, someone needs to change al the locks, and not let em back in. :noid
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In early '02 we were taking the B-24 into St Petersburg, FL from Orlando. GW Bush was going to be in St Pete and would be arriving shortly after our arrival. In the interest of not wanting to screw something up we filed IFR even though it was a CAVU day. We had been cleared for the visual, but not yet cleared to land, and as I turned final we had a complete electrical failure -- radio, intercom -- everything. Oh Fudge!! First instinct was to run away. :D We continued and landed with a light gun signal. Was a no brainer as to what to do, but there were lots of thoughts of being intercepted, etc.
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He should have turned back towards base, and slowed wwwwaaaaaayyyyyy down, like right above a stall, and watched the F-15 just flounder around trying to stay slow enough.
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He should have turned back towards base, and slowed wwwwaaaaaayyyyyy down, like right above a stall, and watched the F-15 just flounder around trying to stay slow enough.
Flounder? With a 1:1 thrust/weight ratio? Perhaps not :D
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Surprised they only had 15's for escorts... BTW F15 does fine in slow flight.
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In early '02 we were taking the B-24 into St Petersburg, FL from Orlando. GW Bush was going to be in St Pete and would be arriving shortly after our arrival. In the interest of not wanting to screw something up we filed IFR even though it was a CAVU day. We had been cleared for the visual, but not yet cleared to land, and as I turned final we had a complete electrical failure -- radio, intercom -- everything. Oh Fudge!! First instinct was to run away. :D We continued and landed with a light gun signal. Was a no brainer as to what to do, but there were lots of thoughts of being intercepted, etc.
At least you still had your engine, if that was to happen to me I would have lost everything (that includes engines). I would'nt even have full motion of the stick. :rofl
How did you drop the gear? Did you have to manually crank it down or did the B-24 have a bit more modern system?
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At least you still had your engine, if that was to happen to me I would have lost everything (that includes engines). I would'nt even have full motion of the stick. :rofl
How did you drop the gear? Did you have to manually crank it down or did the B-24 have a bit more modern system?
I thought landing gear were hydraulic...
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I thought landing gear were hydraulic...
I don't know how the B-24 has it, you might be right. My landing gear for example is electro-hydraulic, but if it looses electricity it would automatically open.
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Hmmm.... lunch today in the State Capital I heard a couple of jets flying overhead... Never got a visual, but normally don't see or hear those unless I'm out more towards Vacaville... wonder if it's related? :P
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At least you still had your engine, if that was to happen to me I would have lost everything (that includes engines). I would'nt even have full motion of the stick. :rofl
How did you drop the gear? Did you have to manually crank it down or did the B-24 have a bit more modern system?
With the exception of the cowl flaps everything on the B-24 is hydraulic.
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I thought landing gear were hydraulic...
Depends on the airplane. The B-17 has electrically driven landing gear -- in fact the only thing hydraulic on the B-17 are the brakes and cowl flaps.
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Flounder? With a 1:1 thrust/weight ratio? Perhaps not :D
Steerman
Power Off Stall Speed: 55 mph
Power On Stall Speed: 51 mph
I'm not sure but I doubt a F 15 can fly that slow. :D
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With the exception of the cowl flaps everything on the B-24 is hydraulic.
Roger, good to know.
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Flounder? With a 1:1 thrust/weight ratio? Perhaps not :D
True, but the stearman pilot could of dropped flaps, lit up a cigar, and watch the frustration of the F-15 pilots build as their fuel guages dropped faster than the cigar could be smoked.
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Surprised they only had 15's for escorts... BTW F15 does fine in slow flight.
I believe with the president traveling south to LAX yesterday from the SanFran area, likely along the coast of even off-shore, and it being Air Force 1 and all, it most likely had escort and oversight for the entire short hop provided from centraly located and superbly capable Vandenberg AFB, CA.
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True, but the stearman pilot could of dropped flaps, lit up a cigar,
Have you ever seen a Stearman? Ain't got no flaps and lighting a cigar would be a challenge in an open cockpit. :D
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Someone told me a story of a buddy of his who got intercepted in restricted area flying a Bonanza.
Two F-4s approached him, instead of following them the guy decided to dogfight and not let the F-4s see his tail number (the Bonanza pilot a flew F-4s as well so he knew what they were capable off). After 10 minutes of turning the F-4s ran out of fuel and went back to base.
Ten years later the Bonanza pilot was court martialed for it, they found out this story only because he was telling it to everyone in ever bar he went too.
Unfortunately I don't remember the specific maneuvers he did.
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Steerman
Power Off Stall Speed: 55 mph
Power On Stall Speed: 51 mph
I'm not sure but I doubt a F 15 can fly that slow. :D
I'm pretty sure it can, but it won't be able to maneuver. Either way it's best not to piss them off, because if you do and they have to send choppers than your really screwed.