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Title: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: ozrocker on September 29, 2011, 08:03:41 AM
Beta open, started at 8:38 EST in North America.


                                                                                                                              :cheers: Oz
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: StokesAk on September 29, 2011, 09:32:07 AM
 :x
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Tyrannis on September 29, 2011, 10:01:52 AM
Dont come into this game thinking the mechanics are like bc2, there not.

It feels more like the gun action is from MOH, with the enviroment being BF.

Having a blast right now.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Reschke on September 29, 2011, 11:36:20 AM
Been in it since the 27th and only got to play in one match. The rest of the time it was game full and timeouts for trying to get online to get in a server.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: ozrocker on September 29, 2011, 11:39:28 AM
It's tough to get in. Servers are generally packed of course.
Played a bit, got some lag to it, but it's Beta.



                                                                                                                               :cheers: Oz
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Tyrannis on September 29, 2011, 11:42:32 AM
just went 17-3 knife only during the outside beginning as russian.

So much fun, i cant wait for the knife-only lobby's that'll pop up once the game goes full.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: ebfd11 on September 29, 2011, 12:36:11 PM
I'm D/Ling it now and waiting to see if it is as good as I hope. It will help base my decision on buying the whole game.

D/L is SSSSSSSSSSSSSSLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWW WWWWWWWWWWW
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Tyrannis on September 29, 2011, 12:43:52 PM
I'm D/Ling it now and waiting to see if it is as good as I hope. It will help base my decision on buying the whole game.

D/L is SSSSSSSSSSSSSSLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWW WWWWWWWWWWW
for what?

was only 14mins on ps3.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: ebfd11 on September 29, 2011, 01:07:03 PM
I'm D/L on my computer..LOL
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: mensa180 on September 29, 2011, 01:12:09 PM
Knife only servers were one of the best parts of Delta Force 2 [oh nostalgia].  It'd be cool to see them in BF.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: 68ZooM on September 29, 2011, 01:44:16 PM
I'm D/L on my computer..LOL

Same here  :aok
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Krupinski on September 29, 2011, 02:10:28 PM
lol I put all of my Xbox games in a box, that box is missing... inside it was my copy of Medal of Honor.  :(
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: ebfd11 on September 29, 2011, 03:20:17 PM
Game is: LawnDart7051 if anyone looks for me ...LOL
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: 68ZooM on September 29, 2011, 03:24:20 PM
Game is: LawnDart7051 if anyone looks for me ...LOL

lol i'll be sure to come and get your Tags  :devil  mines BloodyStumps
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Penguin on September 29, 2011, 04:23:32 PM
The game is amazing, the gameplay is butter-smooth and skill-based.  If you are the better player, then you will win the fight.  The constant 30fps that I get on my PS3 is better than the extremely variable fps that I get with CoD.  The soundscape is amazing, and the knife animations are brutal.  I'm also proud to say that I started my BF3 career off with a kill, and not a death.  The 870 shotgun is a one-hit-kill out to fifteen feet, and boy is it satisfying to blow people apart with it!  The automatic weapons are fun, too, but I still need to become used to the recoil and muzzle smoke and flash.  The game is very fun, but I can already tell that there will be a great deal to learn.

-Penguin
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: ACE on September 29, 2011, 05:55:41 PM
How do you get it for PC?
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Krupinski on September 29, 2011, 06:05:10 PM
How do you get it for PC?

http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield3/1/beta
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: M0nkey_Man on September 29, 2011, 07:08:54 PM
its amazing :banana: :joystick:
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: skorpion on September 29, 2011, 07:42:45 PM
is BF3 beta open for download on xbox 360?
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: ozrocker on September 30, 2011, 03:51:45 AM
Yes



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Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Trell on September 30, 2011, 09:54:27 AM
Started the download on my xbox last night.  will probably try it out saterday.  From the video it looks really cool
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Raphael on September 30, 2011, 11:50:12 AM
post some screen shots of your gameplay guyzz! im sure my pc wont handle this game ):
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: GNucks on September 30, 2011, 12:04:55 PM
post some screen shots of your gameplay guyzz! im sure my pc wont handle this game ):

Good luck with that, they posted on their Twitter almost an hour ago that they're restarting their servers. The game's still not working. WTG EA
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Devil 505 on September 30, 2011, 12:13:46 PM
Downloading it now for 360.
Gamertag is DropkickYankees
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: GNucks on September 30, 2011, 12:20:41 PM
It appears to be back up now, you're just in time, Devil. I'ma send you an invite, GT: SSL NUX
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: M0nkey_Man on September 30, 2011, 03:52:07 PM
<----M0nkyMan
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Nathan60 on September 30, 2011, 04:12:04 PM
So is it  Open beta  or  is  beta closed but open?
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: 68ZooM on September 30, 2011, 04:21:18 PM
open beta for all platforms
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Soulyss on September 30, 2011, 04:31:41 PM
Spent an hour on my lunch break trying it out, except the usual bugs that you'd expect to see in a beta it seems pretty fun.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: cactuskooler on September 30, 2011, 06:56:43 PM
Spent an hour on my lunch break trying it out, except the usual bugs that you'd expect to see in a beta it seems pretty fun.


I'm on too. > Cactuskooler
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Devil 505 on September 30, 2011, 07:29:52 PM
It's pretty fun. But the one map gets pretty old.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: SmokinLoon on September 30, 2011, 08:03:15 PM
I'm on too. > Cactuskooler

Stop playing that crap and get back to making more skinz for AH aircraft and tanks!   ;) 
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Tyrannis on September 30, 2011, 08:12:09 PM
The flashlight is the perfect tool to troll campers in those dark subway corners.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: SmokinLoon on September 30, 2011, 08:45:37 PM
ok ok ok ... I'll admit it.  I downloaded BF3 just to see what all the ruckus is about.  I've not really done a FPS since the original MoH, so this might be a jump for me.

Thing is, I have it down loaded but it wont let me install it???   :huh   Anyone have any ideas?
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: eagl on September 30, 2011, 08:57:12 PM
I was gonna get it but you have to install some sort of sony game system software just to download it... no thanks.  The last software I got from sony was a rootkit.

It looks like a nice game but I already have steam, and I KNOW I can turn steam off.  I press the "turn off" button and the processes vanish, every one of them.  I can't possibly trust sony to do the same thing after what they did to my computer last time.  So I'll play cool games on steam and keep giving sony the finger :)

Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: mensa180 on September 30, 2011, 09:06:34 PM
I'm confused, is it vista/7 only?
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: M0nkey_Man on September 30, 2011, 10:03:51 PM
ok ok ok ... I'll admit it.  I downloaded BF3 just to see what all the ruckus is about.  I've not really done a FPS since the original MoH, so this might be a jump for me.

Thing is, I have it down loaded but it wont let me install it???   :huh   Anyone have any ideas?
you got MOHAA?
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: titanic3 on September 30, 2011, 10:07:17 PM
I'm confused, is it vista/7 only?

BF3 is DX11 only so yes, it won't run on XP or older Windows versions.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: TonyJoey on September 30, 2011, 11:29:26 PM
After playing it for a bit today, I have to say that it's the most immersive game I've ever played. The sounds and graphics are just unreal. The actually gameplay however I think needs some tweaking. Like my whole team playing sniper laying prone at the back of the map...  :eek:
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Tyrannis on September 30, 2011, 11:40:57 PM
Hey guys, before you jump into the fight, make sure to go to your audio settings and switch over to "war tapes". really bumps up the immersion. 
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Gh0stFT on October 01, 2011, 04:36:33 AM
do i need a i-net connection to start the beta? or is there an offline mode for testing gfx & sound ect. ?
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: cpxxx on October 01, 2011, 05:50:23 AM
Having read this thread, I downloaded it on the PS3. It wouldn't have worked on this laptop. Really liked it. Thought it was a bit of a Sniper heaven though. Kept being picked off by one guy, so I hunted him down. Also the underground stuff was pretty compelling. I will be buying it myself once it comes out. I found it easy to get on, maybe the Euro server is less crowded even if it's full of strange languages.

Now I need to either buy another TV or find some way to get the kids to turn off the Saturday morning cartoons.  :mad: Get out and play in the rain and wind kids! :neener:
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: M0nkey_Man on October 01, 2011, 07:35:26 AM
Hey guys, before you jump into the fight, make sure to go to your audio settings and switch over to "war tapes". really bumps up the immersion. 
gonna have to try that :aok
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Nathan60 on October 01, 2011, 09:27:21 AM
gonna have to try that :aok

war tapes  makes it sound soo much better
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: 68ZooM on October 01, 2011, 02:12:27 PM
Crap i have to get Win7 before i can play, cant afford that right now so im bummed  :bhead
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: skorpion on October 01, 2011, 02:45:21 PM
just got it downloaded about 5 minutes ago, definately buying when this game comes out.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: M0nkey_Man on October 01, 2011, 03:02:13 PM
just got it downloaded about 5 minutes ago, definately buying when this game comes out.
:aok
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Tyrannis on October 01, 2011, 03:06:11 PM
one thing tho, i'll def be playing this on hardcore mode. Battlefield has always had a problem with hit damage on normal. (reason why i always play on hardcore)

shot a guy 6 times with the that russian bolt action. (one shot was almost point blank), still didnt kill him.

Bolt actions from the chest up should be a 1 shot kill. semi-auto should be 2 shots from the chest up. 4 shots anywheres below.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: GNucks on October 01, 2011, 03:36:16 PM
Assault definitely seems to be the weakest class with 30 rd rifles that take up to 6 shots center-mass to kill. I've only been running Assault on Defense to keep my teammates off the respawn delays, otherwise I'm playing Recon sans sniper scope and strategically placing mobile spawns. Two shots center-mass with a Mk11 will drop guys quick, forget laying prone and counter sniping, you gotta' get in the fight to do your team any good. In the last two stages (escalators and apartments) I'll go Support so I can knock down several guys quickly, you seem to run into a lot more crowds later on. Only use I see for Engineer on this map is using rockets to clear obstructions, but then you really don't need someone doing that full-time.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: shotgunneeley on October 01, 2011, 03:41:42 PM
BF3 looks killer. Haven't splurged on any recent games since the first Modern Warfare so I feel like hitting this one up.

I've been a major fan of the battlefield series since 1942. Vietnam was a step back due to a weak AI and several bugs, they struck back with avengance with BF2. Got BF2142 but my system at the time couldn't handle it, might have to dust it off to give it some love since I upgraded to Windows 7. Been playing BF2 and 1942 a little bit trying to get back into it; Has the ranking system for BF2 been discontinued? I took a three year break from it and retrieved my account only recently, but it hasn't updated any of my recent battles. Last couple of time I got on I would see guys speeding in APC's as fast as jets and shooting people as soon as you spawned no matter the location.  
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: M0nkey_Man on October 01, 2011, 03:53:30 PM
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/320562_10150291371792672_308775617671_7957220_567505263_n.jpg)
BF3 facebook page
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: skorpion on October 01, 2011, 03:55:01 PM
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/320562_10150291371792672_308775617671_7957220_567505263_n.jpg)
BF3 facebook page
:O is that an actual pic of the game?
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: shotgunneeley on October 01, 2011, 04:17:02 PM
:O is that an actual pic of the game?

My system fears it is   :uhoh

Look how far we've come from DOOM
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: skorpion on October 01, 2011, 04:35:37 PM
My system fears it is   :uhoh

Look how far we've come from DOOM
if that really is a pic of the game then all i have to say is

"holy s***"
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: M0nkey_Man on October 01, 2011, 05:17:16 PM
:O is that an actual pic of the game?
ya, they are
few more:
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/307781_10150291371877672_308775617671_7957222_1603205538_n.jpg)

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/293567_10150291371987672_308775617671_7957224_733932995_n.jpg)

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/317145_10150291372017672_308775617671_7957225_2114264541_n.jpg)
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: GNucks on October 01, 2011, 05:36:55 PM
ya, they are
few more:
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/307781_10150291371877672_308775617671_7957222_1603205538_n.jpg)

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/293567_10150291371987672_308775617671_7957224_733932995_n.jpg)

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/317145_10150291372017672_308775617671_7957225_2114264541_n.jpg)

lol, they've been showing that first pic everywhere but his chin strap doesn't seem to follow his chin. D'oh!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: skorpion on October 01, 2011, 05:50:14 PM
ya, they are
few more:
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/307781_10150291371877672_308775617671_7957222_1603205538_n.jpg)

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/293567_10150291371987672_308775617671_7957224_733932995_n.jpg)

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/317145_10150291372017672_308775617671_7957225_2114264541_n.jpg)
wow, second one is BEASTLY. cant wait for the game to come out. something other than call of nudity err call of duty! :D
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Tyrannis on October 01, 2011, 05:51:58 PM
Its hilarious to read the mw3 cod fanboy's trolling attempts on the bf forums.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: moot on October 01, 2011, 06:49:13 PM
wow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxZiQHDrbC4
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: skorpion on October 01, 2011, 06:59:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxZiQHDrbC4
lol. im going to guess that he was pretending to be a duck?

:rofl
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: SmokinLoon on October 01, 2011, 07:12:33 PM
So... does the game need Win7 as a OS? I have XP and my system does not seem to want to install it.   :headscratch:
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: GNucks on October 01, 2011, 07:20:31 PM
I don't play on the PC but from what I understand from some previous posts BF3 runs on DX11, which is incompatible with XP.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: chaser on October 01, 2011, 09:25:29 PM
I DL'd it but when I try to join a quick match it says it can't ping the closest server and that it could be my firewall. So I turned my firewall off and still can't connect. Any advice guys?
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: chaser on October 01, 2011, 09:43:14 PM
Nevermind I fixed that problem. Now its telling me my AMD drivers are out of date and need to be updated. I'm almost positive there is nothing in the PC from AMD. I have an Intel dual core processor so I'm uber confused. HELP please?  :cry
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: skorpion on October 01, 2011, 09:51:48 PM
I have an Intel dual core processor so I'm uber confused. HELP please?  :cry
IIRC, intel isnt good for gaming. it's really kinda crappy.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: titanic3 on October 01, 2011, 10:25:39 PM
Intel's CPUs are perfectly acceptable for gaming, the best ones are from intel. It's their GPUs that suck.

Sounds like you might have conflicting drivers. Make sure they're all updated. Go to the manufacturers website and download it directly, not your windows update.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: chaser on October 01, 2011, 10:37:31 PM
Had to update drivers for my video card. I'm finally playing.. Mostly getting my arse handed to me lol
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: skorpion on October 01, 2011, 10:55:13 PM
is it me, or does the connection suck pretty hard on PS3/Xbox 360? not really gonna try it on the computer seeing how many other games i have that are eating up most of my memory.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: chaser on October 01, 2011, 11:01:42 PM
BTW I'm AHchaser is game
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Tyrannis on October 01, 2011, 11:17:26 PM
is it me, or does the connection suck pretty hard on PS3/Xbox 360? not really gonna try it on the computer seeing how many other games i have that are eating up most of my memory.
its you.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: chaser on October 02, 2011, 12:59:34 AM
I played it for several hours tonight and I think I got like 4 kills lol. Seems pretty fun but I'm gonna need a better computer. I had the graphics set pretty low and it was still a little jumpy.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Krupinski on October 02, 2011, 01:45:21 AM
is it me, or does the connection suck pretty hard on PS3/Xbox 360? not really gonna try it on the computer seeing how many other games i have that are eating up most of my memory.

It's a Beta, lag is expected.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 02, 2011, 06:12:38 AM
I played it a few hours too. Seems kinda crappy. Graphics are awesome but either the servers are already full of hackers or the net code is bad.

You can empty a clip to a stationary enemy, he turns and shoots 1 shot back you're dead.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Tyrannis on October 02, 2011, 06:15:57 AM
I played it a few hours too. Seems kinda crappy. Graphics are awesome but either the servers are already full of hackers or the net code is bad.

You can empty a clip to a stationary enemy, he turns and shoots 1 shot back you're dead.
Sadly BF has always had a bit of a problem with damage scaling on normal mode. its always usually taken half a clip to the chest to kill someone. Most experienced ppl on Hardcore go for the head shot right away. Thats how people are able to 1 shot outgun you like that.

Hardcore mode is the best way to play battlefield. the damage scaling is best there.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Krupinski on October 02, 2011, 08:28:39 AM
I played it a few hours too. Seems kinda crappy. Graphics are awesome but either the servers are already full of hackers or the net code is bad.

You can empty a clip to a stationary enemy, he turns and shoots 1 shot back you're dead.

I know what you mean, but I have to think it's lag because every so often my player will jump 5ft from where I was just sitting stationary.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: SmokinLoon on October 02, 2011, 10:56:34 AM
Is Win7 required to play it??? I tried to look up the info on their website... nothing found.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 02, 2011, 11:05:11 AM
Sadly BF has always had a bit of a problem with damage scaling on normal mode. its always usually taken half a clip to the chest to kill someone. Most experienced ppl on Hardcore go for the head shot right away. Thats how people are able to 1 shot outgun you like that.

Hardcore mode is the best way to play battlefield. the damage scaling is best there.

No, there's absolutely no way every player hits me in the head in every situation. Then again I have shot 10 aimed shots to an enemy with only head visible (cross marks they were hits btw) and he doesn't die.

The game is just a mess, I won't pay a dime for it that's for sure.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Krupinski on October 02, 2011, 11:10:50 AM
No, there's absolutely no way every player hits me in the head in every situation. Then again I have shot 10 aimed shots to an enemy with only head visible (cross marks they were hits btw) and he doesn't die.

The game is just a mess, I won't pay a dime for it that's for sure.

lol it's a Beta, not the final release. Alphas and Betas are for bug testing.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Seanaldinho on October 02, 2011, 12:01:58 PM
Downloading Origin now  :D
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: curry1 on October 02, 2011, 12:44:57 PM
Is Win7 required to play it??? I tried to look up the info on their website... nothing found.

Vista or 7 I believe yes.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 02, 2011, 01:47:46 PM
It seems I'm not alone with the problems, every single thing in this video fits exactly my experience so far: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGaP5wTYLtQ
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Penguin on October 02, 2011, 02:09:26 PM
It's just like AH2.  If he dies on your screen, he dies on his screen, no matter where he was.

-Penguin
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Seanaldinho on October 02, 2011, 03:58:05 PM
Video card wont run it...  :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 03, 2011, 12:06:44 AM
It's just like AH2.  If he dies on your screen, he dies on his screen, no matter where he was.

-Penguin

Lol no. If it was like that I would have no trouble whatsoever getting kills - but it's quite the opposite. I have counted 6 registered headshots at best with the enemy just turning towards me and returning 1 (single) shot which kills me from 100% life. At first I thought it was just bad aim due to full auto and went to single shot mode. I realized that I could shoot an enemy repeatedly to the head without getting a kill - even worse with body shots. One time I ran into an enemy that didn't see me. I unloaded my AK into him full auto for a good .5 seconds before he even saw me. He only had a pistol. By the time I emptied a half clip into him close range he returned 3 pistol shots and walked away leaving me dead!  :bhead

I get the issues shown in the youtube video using 60ms swedish server where in AH I have 170ms ping and very rarely experience lag induced kills. They do exist also in AH but usually only when both sides have considerable lag.

The weirdest thing seems to be also that if I shoot without bringing up iron sights/scope at close range (spray from the hip) it seems results are actually better than with aimed shots. Yesterday I got the PP2000 and started shooting without sights - I finished 3 rounds in the first position 30/7 score. It still took minimum of half clip of direct hits to the enemy to kill them but I got way less of the dreaded 1 hit deaths to myself.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Tyrannis on October 03, 2011, 01:02:12 AM
Lol no. If it was like that I would have no trouble whatsoever getting kills - but it's quite the opposite. I have counted 6 registered headshots at best with the enemy just turning towards me and returning 1 (single) shot which kills me from 100% life. At first I thought it was just bad aim due to full auto and went to single shot mode. I realized that I could shoot an enemy repeatedly to the head without getting a kill - even worse with body shots. One time I ran into an enemy that didn't see me. I unloaded my AK into him full auto for a good .5 seconds before he even saw me. He only had a pistol. By the time I emptied a half clip into him close range he returned 3 pistol shots and walked away leaving me dead!  :bhead

I get the issues shown in the youtube video using 60ms swedish server where in AH I have 170ms ping and very rarely experience lag induced kills. They do exist also in AH but usually only when both sides have considerable lag.

The weirdest thing seems to be also that if I shoot without bringing up iron sights/scope at close range (spray from the hip) it seems results are actually better than with aimed shots. Yesterday I got the PP2000 and started shooting without sights - I finished 3 rounds in the first position 30/7 score. It still took minimum of half clip of direct hits to the enemy to kill them but I got way less of the dreaded 1 hit deaths to myself.
Like i said, BF has always had an issue with damage scaling. especially on normal mode.

Dont worry tho, this is just the Beta, and DICE has a very good track record when it comes to fixing its bugs. Theres been less bugs in the past 3 released battlefield games than there was in Modern warefare 2 alone.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: coombz on October 03, 2011, 03:45:29 AM
so far the game just seems like a prettier BC2

which isn't a bad thing I guess, BC2 is jolly good

just not very exciting...I'll be sticking with AH :aok
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Kazaa on October 03, 2011, 08:19:33 AM
I had early access to the P.C beta and I've been playing it rather a lot. Things I like:

Movement feels very fluid, comparable to C.O.D.
Hit detection (On P.C) is perfect.
I have experience with web based server browsers before (iRacing) so the Battle-Log type system isn't something new to me. It's extremely fast, clean, exploding with features and easy to update from DICE's end.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 03, 2011, 08:42:55 AM
Hit detection (On P.C) is perfect.

And you're talking still about Battlefield 3 right?  :eek:

I was looking at the stats of players who had k/d average much higher than me - their hit % were less than half of mine. Yet they managed to score way higher kills while my hits seem to do nothing whatsoever. The enemy walks away unscathed after a dozen of AK hits to the body.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Kazaa on October 03, 2011, 11:47:24 AM
And you're talking still about Battlefield 3 right?  :eek:

I was looking at the stats of players who had k/d average much higher than me - their hit % were less than half of mine. Yet they managed to score way higher kills while my hits seem to do nothing whatsoever. The enemy walks away unscathed after a dozen of AK hits to the body.

Are you playing on P.C? I've heard that consoles are having a real problem with their hit detection.

I've not had one of those moments where I've fired a clip into the enemy with no results. For me, the enemy is killed with 3-4 bullets from my M416.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: curry1 on October 03, 2011, 12:32:28 PM
I had early access to the P.C beta and I've been playing it rather a lot. Things I like:

Movement feels very fluid, comparable to C.O.D.
Hit detection (On P.C) is perfect.
I have experience with web based server browsers before (iRacing) so the Battle-Log type system isn't something new to me. It's extremely fast, clean, exploding with features and easy to update from DICE's end.

I'd have to agree that I haven't had any problems with with hit detection on PC and whenever I have had lag it seemed it was server side as everyone was complaining about it. 

The game just needs a few bugs smoothed out and it will be good to go.  The beta is supposedly, supposed to measure weapon balance and the code for the beta is TWO months old and many of the bugs for the retail release are already fixed.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Kazaa on October 03, 2011, 12:39:40 PM
I'd have to agree that I haven't had any problems with with hit detection on PC and whenever I have had lag it seemed it was server side as everyone was complaining about it.  

The game just needs a few bugs smoothed out and it will be good to go.  The beta is supposedly, supposed to measure weapon balance and the code for the beta is TWO months old and many of the bugs for the retail release are already fixed.

The first three days of the beta was unplayable due to lag, even now there is still a lot of lag in the beta.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 03, 2011, 01:09:31 PM
Are you playing on P.C? I've heard that consoles are having a real problem with their hit detection.

I've not had one of those moments where I've fired a clip into the enemy with no results. For me, the enemy is killed with 3-4 bullets from my M416.

I'm playing with PC naturally. The game is just worthless and I'm going to quit even trying. I'm getting the effects pictured in that youtube video all the time PLUS my shots don't do any damage to the enemies. I have walked behind an enemy and started shooting at his head, he turns around and kills me with 1 shot.

The game is a hopeless joke. No such problems in COD4 - I'll stick to COD from now on :)

Luckily there was the beta I didn't waste my money.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: cactuskooler on October 03, 2011, 01:21:28 PM
I'm playing with PC naturally. The game is just worthless and I'm going to quit even trying. I'm getting the effects pictured in that youtube video all the time PLUS my shots don't do any damage to the enemies. I have walked behind an enemy and started shooting at his head, he turns around and kills me with 1 shot.

Someone wrote that the not-so-good hit detection system is just part of this beta and that the released version will be improved. Can't remember where I read it though so it might a bunch of bushwa.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Kazaa on October 03, 2011, 02:36:34 PM
I'm amazed to hear that the hit detection is so conflicted. My internet connection is very standard and I've had no problems what so ever.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Flipperk on October 03, 2011, 02:47:05 PM
No problems here with the Beta as far as I can tell


Xbox 360
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: moot on October 03, 2011, 05:32:54 PM
Third hand from a DICE dev - they are scrambling like crazy to be ready for release. And have been for a while.  There's no sign that this game will be any different from previous DICE/EA games as far as bugs and glitches, game and server wise.  Even some of the "features" of the game at this point are badly flawed..  There's some stupid glitches carried right over from as far back as BF2 - you can see they just recycled the code for these.

I'm amazed to hear that the hit detection is so conflicted. My internet connection is very standard and I've had no problems what so ever.
No different from how it is in AH.  Your netroute to server is just one of billions or whatever # of possible routes; could be anything from impeccable to unplayable.  One data point doesn't say much.

Also like AH... Ripley's comments, as much as they sound like some of the worst games I've had lag wise, just can't be taken without grain of salt - without film.  There's no film in BF3.

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The game just needs a few bugs smoothed out and it will be good to go.  The beta is supposedly, supposed to measure weapon balance and the code for the beta is TWO months old and many of the bugs for the retail release are already fixed.
Not "just a few bugs", although like BC2, the game core is so fun that it's not hard to ignore a lot of really stupid crap.  So "good to go" is relative to that, not so much a measure of how flawed the game is otherwise. 
Weapon balance looks like it's going to be just as much of an kludged together artificial kiddie arcade piece of crap as previous BFs.

These guys are making millions and millions but can't bother hiring programmers to match.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Penguin on October 03, 2011, 07:18:56 PM
I disagree wholheartedly on the issue of weapon balance.  There is no weapon that dominates the game, and not a single one is a locker queen.  The hit detection has issues, granted, but this is a BETA.  This is a server test, which the servers have most certainly failed- this is a good thing, too.  This means that DICE can fix their game before release, and it gives us a better end product as well.

As for the issue of 'kiddie-arcade', if you want more realism, try ARMA II or Project Reality for Battlefield 2.  Those guys have all the realism you could want and more.  At a certain point, it has to stop being a simulator and start being a game. If the weapons were exactly what the majority of each side used in real life, there would only be a few for each role.

US vs. RU:

Assault Rifles: M16A4 vs. AK-74M
Carbines: M4 Carbine vs. AK-74u
Light Machine Guns: M249 vs. PKM

There would be no pistols, and submachineguns, sniper rifles, designated marksman rifles, and shotguns would be specialist weapons.  Face it, unless you want to role-play or simulate, the game would be quite boring.

-Penguin
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: cpxxx on October 04, 2011, 03:40:48 AM
Playing in on the PS3, I got the quicksand bug, when I struggled out of it. It was amusing to watch others falling into it, some with the weird crawl bug.

No real problems with hit detection for me. I do find you need a couple of hits with a sniper rifle to bring someone down. In fact I got into a sniper battle with one guy, great fun. There are some frantic battles in the Metro.

Some people mentioned the graphics, I find MW2 is better.

We'll all be well sick of this map when the game comes out.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: moot on October 04, 2011, 04:53:32 AM
cpxxx IIRC there's at least 1 sniper rifle in the beta that gives you 1 hit kills for headshots.


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-Penguin
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: cpxxx on October 04, 2011, 06:26:15 AM
Actually now that you mention it, I did get a couple of one shot headshots. But you have to hit him in the head in the first place! Most of the time I just pepper the scenery around him until he gets up and runs away.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: moot on October 04, 2011, 08:38:34 AM
The ballistics are pretty funny.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Soulyss on October 04, 2011, 12:25:41 PM
I have 4 major issues with the game in it's current state.  The primary one is the netcode and hit detection, too often I see a bad guy and dive behind cover only to get hit because of net lag, not sure how to fix it but right now it's very, very frustrating.  Beyond that the user interface needs a lot of work, rather silly that you can't hit ESC to quit or change key binding without being in the game, spawned live in the current round playing.  Then there's the lack of squad selection, you can be IN a squad but can't choose which squad that is. Finally it seems that certain keys are hard coded and can't be changed, it hasn't effected me directly but my friend doesn't use the standard WSAD movement keys and he says they can't be remapped, which is just silly. 

Still it's a beta and we'll see what the final release is, this is the first game I've ever pre-ordered but the beta has raised enough questions that I'm considering cancelling the pre-order and waiting to see what the final released product looks like before I buy.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: moot on October 04, 2011, 06:08:24 PM
dive behind cover only to get hit because of net lag
That's DICE's netcode.  It was the same in BC2.  Don't expect a fix.  Google their fix last time around:  their fix to the hitbox not matching players' actual position (lagging behind it, hence hits around corners) was to... make the hitbox bigger.  As in enlarge it out from its faulty "latent" position, "ahead" (interpolated).

Squad system's supposed to be fully implemented only at release.  They did say they intend to have lots/most of it done thru their browser system.

Not even gonna get started on the "can't press ESC" etc unless alive.  :lol  Just pure s%%t design.  It was the same in BC2, and similarly designed in BF2.  These things they can't grok even after tens of millions of $$$ profits drop onto their heads.  Morons.

Remapping limitations are a beta thing.  Same deal for me - WASD = PITA.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Soulyss on October 04, 2011, 06:18:03 PM
I played BC2 quite a bit and it never seemed to be as big of an issue than what I'm running into now in the beta, sounds like they are going to tweak the netcode for the final release, between that and hopefully servers that aren't so overloaded it will sort itself out. 
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Tyrannis on October 04, 2011, 06:49:06 PM
That's DICE's netcode.  It was the same in BC2.  Don't expect a fix.  Google their fix last time around:  their fix to the hitbox not matching players' actual position (lagging behind it, hence hits around corners) was to... make the hitbox bigger.  As in enlarge it out from its faulty "latent" position, "ahead" (interpolated).

Squad system's supposed to be fully implemented only at release.  They did say they intend to have lots/most of it done thru their browser system.

Not even gonna get started on the "can't press ESC" etc unless alive.  :lol  Just pure s%%t design.  It was the same in BC2, and similarly designed in BF2.  These things they can't grok even after tens of millions of $$$ profits drop onto their heads.  Morons.

Remapping limitations are a beta thing.  Same deal for me - WASD = PITA.
just another reason to play it on consoles  ;) we never had any of those problems.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Soulyss on October 04, 2011, 09:43:35 PM
You can have my mouse and keyboard setup when you pry it from my cold dead hands...

 :)
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: curry1 on October 04, 2011, 10:43:36 PM
just another reason to play it on consoles  ;) we never had any of those problems.

You also dont have any of those options.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: moot on October 05, 2011, 04:56:42 AM
I played BC2 quite a bit and it never seemed to be as big of an issue than what I'm running into now in the beta,
Did you play it from early on?  Because even now you still get hit around corners.  It was much worse before.

just another reason to play it on consoles 
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Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 10, 2011, 07:16:47 AM
Also like AH... Ripley's comments, as much as they sound like some of the worst games I've had lag wise, just can't be taken without grain of salt - without film.  There's no film in BF3.

Ever heard of fraps? Youtube has videos describing the very exact symptoms I wrote about.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: Kazaa on October 10, 2011, 07:48:38 AM
I feel the opacity of the shadow levels in BF3 are way to high, to the point where all detail is crushed.
Title: Re: BF3 Beta Open Now
Post by: moot on October 11, 2011, 09:30:48 PM
Ever heard of fraps? Youtube has videos describing the very exact symptoms I wrote about.
I've heard of fraps.  Why didn't you fraps?  I don't know which exact youtube vids match your issues; you do.

Contrast was ridiculous on Caspian.  Same as release date BC2 Atacama conquest map.  Just the same retarded design choices from DICE over and over again.  E.G. once again at least one of the guns does not shoot where its sight points.  I mean how do you diddly that up?  That's the whole point of the game right there.