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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: flight17 on October 03, 2011, 06:04:47 PM
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Well going for my checkride tomorrow morning. Oral is from 8:45-9:30AM then flying from 9:30 on... I hope the weather holds out since it has literally been raining here and in the high 30's-low 40's for the last 4 days straight.
Hopefully wx holds out and i pass so i can go straight into my instrument and pound it out as well. Im really hoping i can get my Instrument done by January so i can catch up to my fellow Commercial classmates and get my CFII by late summer so i can then get my Multi and MEI
Total duration of training was from June 14th-August 26th with about 4 whole weeks canceled due to weather. I was flying 4-6 hours a week for the most part during that time.
Btw, i finished the Private course with 36hrs TT but have since flown 4hrs preparing so im going in with exactly 40 hours.
Approaching T-13hrs to go :cry :pray
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Good luck, we're all counting on you.
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Good luck! If the weather looks the least bit inclement, don't hesitate to postphone.
It's just a formality, you will do great.
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Good luck, we're all counting on you.
Surely you have faith in me?
that was as close as i could quote it
and thanks :)
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lol Good Luck :aok
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The spinny buzzy part is the front, just a reminder
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Good Luck & Have Fun :aok
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Good luck, were all counting on you.
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thanks guys... i just got done doing all my flight planning for the cross country. Thankfully i only had to do one way, but it took me 2-2.5hrs to plot it and chart it all and get all my info lined up. I dont know why but it always takes me forever to plot new routes. All i have left to do is performance then all my planning is done, but i will have to call weather tomorrow morning so i can finish my flight planning.
my fake cross country is KBVI-KTOL which is 162nm direct, however i would file it as i planned which would be KBVI-BSV(VOR)-MFD(VOR)-VWV(VOR)-KTOL to take me around Cleveland's Class Bravo. It only added 15nm total each way which is worth it especially since im not familiar with the area west of Pittsburgh(ability to recognize city A is actually city A and not really city B). i would like to use VOR's to make sure im on track and then use the visual checkpoints to just verify the VOR's...
Gonna do this performance data with current weather then study a little bit and then off to bed for a good nights rest!
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Good luck.
Doing it concentrated in a short period of time really ensures you stay sharp.
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good luck, I just started training last week in Annapolis....the DC SFRA is crazy.....
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Good Luck :aok :aok
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I would suggest using VORs as your "primary" form of nav. Only if you are heading "to" the station, as your signal will grow stronger and stronger. Make sure you are using all forms of nav, not just VOR radials. And don't forget to cross check your gyro with your compass every so often! :). I managed to get myself royally confused on my first cross country by not.
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thanks guys. well weather sucked this morning so we delayed everything till 1pm... leaving now for airport...
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:rock
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WELL YOUR FLYING WITH ACES HIGH'S NEWEST LICENSED PRIVATE PILOT!!!!! :airplane: :D :banana:
I start instrument tomorrow :)
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Congrats!
:cheers:
So you did it with exactly 40 hours, Nice.
I think it took me about 60, but I kept switching airplanes and doing stuff that I did not really need for my PPL (like spins).
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Congrats! Getting it right at 40 hours is quite a feat
I got mine at about 180 hours. I guess I'm just a slow learner.
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Congrats! Getting it right at 40 hours is quite a feat
I got mine at about 180 hours. I guess I'm just a slow learner.
I thought that was because you were too young to get it?
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WTG FLIGHT! WOOP WOOP! :airplane: :salute
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Congrats man.
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Congrats!
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thanks guys
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I thought that was because you were too young to get it?
It was.
I was being facetious
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It was.
I was being facetious
Roger lol
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Grats there fella.
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Thanks Shuffler
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I got my (first) glider check ride with under 10 hours of total flight.
WTG though Im starting powered flight this summer.
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Have you taken your girlfriend flying yet?
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WTG Flight17 :cheers:
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I got my (first) glider check ride with under 10 hours of total flight.
WTG though Im starting powered flight this summer.
make sure you get your private if you plan on doin any more ratings or flying any distances... if you get sport, you will be screwed because you will then have to refly all 35hrs for your private and others because the wont accept sport training hours towards a private.
Have you taken your girlfriend flying yet?
She wont go, but im still trying...
and thanks deSelys
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make sure you get your private if you plan on doin any more ratings or flying any distances... if you get sport, you will be screwed because you will then have to refly all 35hrs for your private and others because the wont accept sport training hours towards a private.
That's not entirely true
http://sport-pilot-training.com/private-pilot/
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Oh not worried about that taking ground school through embry riddle right now :)
Not even gonna try for the sport license.
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wtg flight! :aok I'm working on my private now.
I have about 40 hours, but i took a year off at around 36hrs.. I was pretty close to getting my license but I had to go start my own business, so not much money for flying then. :)
I have most of my time in a Cessna 172, but I decided to finish it in a Citabria. I need to review quite a bit, so I figure, why not get my tail wheel endorsement in the process.. :rock Plus the Citabria is a hell of a lot more fun to fly than the c172.. :D
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wtg flight! :aok I'm working on my private now.
I have about 40 hours, but i took a year off at around 36hrs.. I was pretty close to getting my license but I had to go start my own business, so not much money for flying then. :)
I have most of my time in a Cessna 172, but I decided to finish it in a Citabria. I need to review quite a bit, so I figure, why not get my tail wheel endorsement in the process.. :rock Plus the Citabria is a hell of a lot more fun to fly than the c172.. :D
Good luck...
I took a month break, though not really by choice, from Aug 26th, till Sep 24th, due to weather and just doing ground schools (preparing for the test). I think it actually did me really well, because when i came back, my landings were a lot better than when i last flew. (landed good in begining of my training, then they started sucking, but are great again) :)
Im getting all my certificates in the associates program im in now: Private, Instrument, Commercial, Multi Engine, CFI, CFII and MEI. Plus i will have Complex aircraft and G1000 Cockpit Endorsements as well and then im hoping i will be able to get my tailwheel endorsement in our Piper L-21B (super cub) next spring/summer after we get it fixed from the latest accident. I really want that tailwheel endorsement though. I think that Cub will be a lot more fun than the Cessnas. But then again, im going to start using a 2005 Cessna C182TC with a G1000 towards the end of my instrument and for a lot of my commerical, so my opinion on the tailwheel being more fun might change. :)
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Thanks :)
I've got a couple hours with the G1000, but honestly I really dislike it. I'm sure if I was going to get my commercial license and go fly regionals etc, G1000 training would probably be a good idea.. Otherwise I think they are somewhat dangerous for the average recreational pilot. Too many knobs/switches and features that keeps you head in the panel and not outside where it belongs under normal VFR conditions.. Give me steam gauges and a basic GPS and I'm good to go. :rock
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Thanks :)
I've got a couple hours with the G1000, but honestly I really dislike it. I'm sure if I was going to get my commercial license and go fly regionals etc, G1000 training would probably be a good idea.. Otherwise I think they are somewhat dangerous for the average recreational pilot. Too many knobs/switches and features that keeps you head in the panel and not outside where it belongs under normal VFR conditions.. Give me steam gauges and a basic GPS and I'm good to go. :rock
It just take a while to get used to it, when you do the G1000 makes your life so much simpler.
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Congratulations on your first pass.
Do you have anything other than a G1000 to pick from? For instance with gauges, dials and proper instruments rather than the McPanel of the Garmin?
A Turbo 182 can't be cheap compared to other options if available. I can see it being beneficial in about 150 hours when you're polishing up for the commercial especially if whatever multiengine you're using has similar avionics but 200 hours in a Turbo whiz-bang 182 seems inefficient.
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Congratulations on your first pass.
Do you have anything other than a G1000 to pick from? For instance with gauges, dials and proper instruments rather than the McPanel of the Garmin?
A Turbo 182 can't be cheap compared to other options if available. I can see it being beneficial in about 150 hours when you're polishing up for the commercial especially if whatever multiengine you're using has similar avionics but 200 hours in a Turbo whiz-bang 182 seems inefficient.
Thanks
We have for the time being:
4x Cessna 172r's $128/hr
1x CEssna 172M $108/hr
1x Cessna C182TC W/G1000 $180/hr
4x Piper Warrior III's (Garmin 430's) $128/hr
1x Piper Arrow III $160/hr
1x Piper Seminole $280/hr
I will do most of my initial instrument with the 172R or Warrior (havent decided if i really want to fly the warrior or not yet) and then in Stage 3 start flying the 182 on the long cross countries. For Commercial i will fly the 172, 182 and arrow for sure and then the seminole for multi. However, Im only paying 60% of the above costs, so about $76/hr for a Cessna 172R and $108/hr for the 182 due to a contract my school has with the state in which the state gives a 40% discount on my rentals.
The 182 is the only G1000 a/c as of now, however, they will be selling the 172M (due to a/c age contract) and the Arrow (engine about to time out and airframe has a crapload of time) and will be buying a new(er?) Arrow. So the new arrow might have a G1000 as well. The warriors have two garmin 430's in them while the C172r only have older garmins (no moving maps, just the info) which i cant remember the model off the top of my head. I dont know what arrrow or seminole have as i havent been in them, but they are 1989/1991 models respectively and i dont think they have ever modernized the avionics... Same for the 172M, dont know as i havent flown it and its a 1970's model.
All the piper aircraft are Ex-University of North Dakota aircraft and the 172R's are all from Western Michigan University. The 172M was bought straight from Cessna in the 70's...
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Thanks
We have for the time being:
4x Cessna 172r's $128/hr
1x CEssna 172M $108/hr
1x Cessna C182TC W/G1000 $180/hr
4x Piper Warrior III's (Garmin 430's) $128/hr
1x Piper Arrow III $160/hr
1x Piper Seminole $280/hr
I will do most of my initial instrument with the 172R or Warrior (havent decided if i really want to fly the warrior or not yet) and then in Stage 3 start flying the 182 on the long cross countries. For Commercial i will fly the 172, 182 and arrow for sure and then the seminole for multi. However, Im only paying 60% of the above costs, so about $76/hr for a Cessna 172R and $108/hr for the 182 due to a contract my school has with the state in which the state gives a 40% discount on my rentals.
The 182 is the only G1000 a/c as of now, however, they will be selling the 172M (due to a/c age contract) and the Arrow (engine about to time out and airframe has a crapload of time) and will be buying a new(er?) Arrow. So the new arrow might have a G1000 as well. The warriors have two garmin 430's in them while the C172r only have older garmins (no moving maps, just the info) which i cant remember the model off the top of my head. I dont know what arrrow or seminole have as i havent been in them, but they are 1989/1991 models respectively and i dont think they have ever modernized the avionics... Same for the 172M, dont know as i havent flown it and its a 1970's model.
All the piper aircraft are Ex-University of North Dakota aircraft and the 172R's are all from Western Michigan University. The 172M was bought straight from Cessna in the 70's...
Do those prices include fuel?
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Do those prices include fuel?
looks about right to me.
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Do those prices include fuel?
Does Riddle not give you lube with their price guide? If not, they're very inconsiderate.
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Does Riddle not give you lube with their price guide? If not, they're very inconsiderate.
Lube?
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Lube?
Less friction for "entry"
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Less friction for "entry"
Like Lubricant?
Either I'm too tired to understand what your saying or something here really does not make sense.
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Like Lubricant?
Either I'm too tired to understand what your saying or something here really does not make sense.
Yeah, lubricant.
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Yeah, lubricant.
So it would be:
Does Riddle not give you lubricant with their price guide? If not, they're very inconsiderate.
:headscratch: I'm lost and you two are making me feel like an idiot. What does oil have to do with airplane prices?
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So it would be:
:headscratch: I'm lost and you two are making me feel like an idiot. What does oil have to do with airplane prices?
Think KY
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Think KY
Kentucky?
(http://s3.postimage.org/2w171awp0/s_Ang_banghead2.gif?noCache=1317880599)
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I go to Embry-Riddle, and unless you have oil in your backyard, Riddle is probably the most expensive place to learn how to fly.
I got my Private Certificate from the local flight school for half what Riddle was going to charge. My major is now Professional Aeronautics, Minor in Airport Management. I go to their worldwide campus in Houston, TX. Tuition rate at worldwide is $870 per 3 hour course. At the main campus it is $2400 per 3 hour course.
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Kentucky?
:bhead
You're killing me Smalls
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You're killing me Smalls
I'm going to go to bed and read this thread tomorrow.
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I'm going to go to bed and read this thread tomorrow.
KY Jelly!! LubE!!
They are literally, for a lack of a better term, pounding you with ridiculous prices...need some lube to soften the blows.. if you catch my drift.
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KY Jelly!! LubE!!
The are literally, for a lack of a better term, pounding you with ridiculous prices...need some lube to soften the blows.. if you catch my drift.
Thank you
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Thank you
Your Welcome, check inbox
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KY Jelly!! LubE!!
They are literally, for a lack of a better term, pounding you with ridiculous prices...need some lube to soften the blows.. if you catch my drift.
Right, was not familiar with the expression. Kept thinking it had something to do with airplanes.
Well the ground classes are expensive (as you said), but the airplane is relatively cheap.
DA42NG for $180/hour dry.
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Best of luck with your career :aok
I got my PPL in 2008 in just 45 hrs (minimum hours for a JAA licence) when I was 38 yrs old :rock.
I was planning for a career change and began to study for the ATPL (distance learning) and did a lot of hours in a few months. Then a divorce hit me and the crisis-induced downturn happened. I had to review my plans and couldn't throw so much money for a much less money-safe future... Since then, I've not flown much, just enough to keep the PPL(A) endorsement.
Passed again the medical last week and began to re-read the Met, Nav and Air Law books. I should start some hours with an FI to refresh my flying soon ;)
Have fun and be safe :)
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As for the prices, yes all were wet rates. I thought i put it in there somewhere, but i guess i didnt.
In all honesty, Riddle is not what its all cracked up to be. We have a few students that went there but are now up here with us. One in particular is currently 108K in debt after going for pro pilot at Embry but ran out of money after getting his private and multi. He got his bachelors, but couldn't afford all the flying. The way they order their flight training in their syllabus is wacky as well and causes more expenses to the student.
For my entire training, I'm going to be spending about 40K for the flight portion and about another 5k in tuition/books and come out way ahead with an associates.
And if you are going for ATC, you cant beat my school. Literally, its the top ranked school in the country and has things no other schools have. It owns and operates its own live Control tower which is staffed by two supervisors and the rest last semester students. No other college in the country has that. They also are in the process of installing a full 360 degree tower simulator, of which i think only a handful of other schools have. Our ATC students also get put on the direct hire list with the FAA as long as they average a 80% or better. They used to be able to give certificates right at the school that allowed students to go straight into a contract tower without any further training, but after 9-11, the feds took that away, but they are on the verge of getting that back.
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I wish our Seminole was 280 an hour, I get gouged and bottom barrel flying times compared to the contract kids here :(
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As for the prices, yes all were wet rates. I thought i put it in there somewhere, but i guess i didnt.
In all honesty, Riddle is not what its all cracked up to be. We have a few students that went there but are now up here with us. One in particular is currently 108K in debt after going for pro pilot at Embry but ran out of money after getting his private and multi. He got his bachelors, but couldn't afford all the flying. The way they order their flight training in their syllabus is wacky as well and causes more expenses to the student.
For my entire training, I'm going to be spending about 40K for the flight portion and about another 5k in tuition/books and come out way ahead with an associates.
And if you are going for ATC, you cant beat my school. Literally, its the top ranked school in the country and has things no other schools have. It owns and operates its own live Control tower which is staffed by two supervisors and the rest last semester students. No other college in the country has that. They also are in the process of installing a full 360 degree tower simulator, of which i think only a handful of other schools have. Our ATC students also get put on the direct hire list with the FAA as long as they average a 80% or better. They used to be able to give certificates right at the school that allowed students to go straight into a contract tower without any further training, but after 9-11, the feds took that away, but they are on the verge of getting that back.
I'm actually against having college student operate the tower. Most controllers in prescott graduated from riddle and they suck. One they put me 1000ft over the main runway and told me to spot an aircraft cumming in for landing on my low 6 and and aircraft taking off on my low 12. Also I had them tell him a number of times to follow an R22 or R44 to the final and land after him, while my speed was ~100kts faster than his, I think he was actually flying bellow my stall speed.
$180 wet for a 182 is not bad. I used to pay $180 wet for a DA40. However I still recommend you fly something cheaper because in the end it all adds up, unless you really want the 182 or really hate all your other options.
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I wish our Seminole was 280 an hour, I get gouged and bottom barrel flying times compared to the contract kids here :(
How much do you pay for it?
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It works out to almost 6 dollars per minute, lol
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It works out to almost 6 dollars per minute, lol
So 360 per hour? If the fuel is included that's not that bad.
How much does 100LL cost at your FBO and what's the fuel burn on the Seminole?
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Fuel and instructor included. I cant remember what it works out to, but its a fixed price around 4.00-4.50 ish. That is if I refuel here. The school itself does it's own fuel. I go to the flight safety academy for now. Off to Denver soon for cfi and ii.
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I'm actually against having college student operate the tower. Most controllers in prescott graduated from riddle and they suck.
Remember, we arent Riddle, which was sort of part of my previous post.
We are known for our ATC program. In fact when students go to Oklahoma City, the first thing they do is ask whole all went to CCBC and they are the tutors/mentors for the rest of the class.
And if the students ever do something that could possibly cause problems, the supervisor will step on coms right away and correct the situation. Now granted you can always tell when new students are in the tower, but they quickly learn it.
Our fuel costs 3.85 a gallon for 100LL, but the supplier sells it at a loss. however, we pay seperately for instructors, which is another $32/hr
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Fuel and instructor included. I cant remember what it works out to, but its a fixed price around 4.00-4.50 ish. That is if I refuel here. The school itself does it's own fuel. I go to the flight safety academy for now. Off to Denver soon for cfi and ii.
Since the instructor is included I don't think it's a bad price. Sure it could be cheaper but I would not call that "expensive", just a bit on the high side.
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Remember, we arent Riddle, which was sort of part of my previous post.
We are known for our ATC program. In fact when students go to Oklahoma City, the first thing they do is ask whole all went to CCBC and they are the tutors/mentors for the rest of the class.
And if the students ever do something that could possibly cause problems, the supervisor will step on coms right away and correct the situation. Now granted you can always tell when new students are in the tower, but they quickly learn it.
Oh so there is a supervisor in the tower, than it's good.
I know almost nothing about Riddle's ATC program, my comments were about people that graduated from there. But then again I did see a whole bunch of experienced controllers do stupid stuff at other airports.
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We are paying 5.60 to 5.80 a gallon for avgas in NW Florida...