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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: mthrockmor on October 12, 2011, 07:54:15 PM
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Loose Deuce is manning a Spit 9 squad during the upcoming scenario: Enemy Coast Ahead.
If you have not flown a scenario you are really missing out. Many of the best sticks spend their time making it count in these scenarios. The RAF will up Spit 9s, and Typhoons with some Mossies and B-25s to keep it interesting. The Iron Cross is headed West with 109s, 190 Butcher Birds, Ju-88s and a few 190-ground attack to keep the RAF honest. In all roughly 200 RAF and Luftwaffe birds will sort out who controls the English Channel during 1943.
If you want to learn how to fly Spit 9s, squad tactics and fly as a unit this may be your best chance. And with Loose Deuce's reputation, one of the best squads in the game, winner of the Squad Dueling League! (I'm trying to be modest but what can we say, it's Joe Namath time I guess.)
We are looking for just a couple flyers committed to learning squad tactics to fly with us. If you can reserve Sat Nov 12 and 19, and Dec 3, 10 and 17 from 3-5 PM Eastern, and want to break some butcher birds...just post a response. We will hold several practice sessions in the DA and you can get to know the rest of the Loose Deucers.
...where none dare fly!
Boo
Loose Deuce
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Boo,
How can you fly Spits after our heroic struggle in BOG :frown:
:salute
BigRat
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Make sure you bring a sense of humor and a shot glass or two :cheers:
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Are you recruiting just for training or the scenario as well?
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Real Spit drivers don't need two stage Merlins :)
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Real Spit drivers don't need two stage Merlins :)
You know you're an alt monkey when your favorite spit was the pressurised one! :neener:
And also a two stage merlin-er if I guess correctly.
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Real Spit drivers don't need two stage Merlins :)
Why is that?
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Why is that?
Cause I've got the Spit Vb squadron in the scenario and they have single stage Merlins :)
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Cause I've got the Spit Vb squadron in the scenario and they have single stage Merlins :)
Ah, got it.
:lol
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You know you're an alt monkey when your favorite spit was the pressurised one! :neener:
And also a two stage merlin-er if I guess correctly.
Hah! Single stage Griffon III or IV in the Spit XII and it was a low alt bird! Not pressurized :)
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Hah! Single stage Griffon III or IV in the Spit XII and it was a low alt bird! Not pressurized :)
You mean there is a Spitfire that's actually pressurized?
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You mean there is a Spitfire that's actually pressurized?
Spit VI, Spit VII, Spit X, Spit 19
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Spit VI, Spit VII, Spit X, Spit 19
I never heard that before. Why would you want to pressurize a fighter? Even cargo airplanes that fly around combat don't get pressurized. You realize what is going to happen you a single bullet hits the cockpit?
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I never heard that before. Why would you want to pressurize a fighter? Even cargo airplanes that fly around combat don't get pressurized. You realize what is going to happen you a single bullet hits the cockpit?
The VI and VII were high alt fighters and it was a way to protect the pilots from the effects on the body up above 40K. The other 2 were recce birds and up high safer from interception. They did some tests in the late 40s and the Spit 19s were able to get in and take the pictures as the early jets couldn't get up to them.
There are a number of surviving Spit 19s still flying. And the only surviving Spitfire VII EN474 is at the National Air and Space Museum in DC. If you look at photos of Spits, look for a long intake on the right side of the engine cowl below the exhaust stacks. That's a sign it's a VI, VII, X or 19
There is no door on the left side of the cockpit like unpressurized Spits. Different canopy set up too.
EN474
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/be/Spitfire_VII_Langley_USA.jpg)
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Hmpf. I had your favorite being the XII, I need to make more appearances on ch 138.
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Hmpf. I had your favorite being the XII, I need to make more appearances on ch 138.
The XII is my favorite :) Low alt, single stage Griffon, clipped wings, tall tail....What a beauty!
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/MB882-2.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/EBB1.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/DP845-1.jpg)
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The VI and VII were high alt fighters and it was a way to protect the pilots from the effects on the body up above 40K. The other 2 were recce birds and up high safer from interception. They did some tests in the late 40s and the Spit 19s were able to get in and take the pictures as the early jets couldn't get up to them.
There are a number of surviving Spit 19s still flying. And the only surviving Spitfire VII EN474 is at the National Air and Space Museum in DC. If you look at photos of Spits, look for a long intake on the right side of the engine cowl below the exhaust stacks. That's a sign it's a VI, VII, X or 19
There is no door on the left side of the cockpit like unpressurized Spits. Different canopy set up too.
EN474
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/be/Spitfire_VII_Langley_USA.jpg)
Thanks for explaining.
One more question, they did not keep it pressurized bellow 40K, right?
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The XII is my favorite :) Low alt, single stage Griffon, clipped wings, tall tail....What a beauty!
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/MB882-2.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/EBB1.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/DP845-1.jpg)
I think me and you need to move over to the wishlist forum...
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Thanks for explaining.
One more question, they did not keep it pressurized bellow 40K, right?
On the Spitfire VI the canopy was bolted on so the only way the pilot could get rid of it was to jettison it. They sometimes flew without it if they were not going up high. The others had canopies that cold be slid back. Interestingly enough the VII in the summer of 44 after D-Day had the extended wing tips removed and regular tips put on, and was flown in ground attack at times. So no they didn't always have it pressurized.
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On the Spitfire VI the canopy was bolted on so the only way the pilot could get rid of it was to jettison it. They sometimes flew without it if they were not going up high. The others had canopies that cold be slid back. Interestingly enough the VII in the summer of 44 after D-Day had the extended wing tips removed and regular tips put on, and was flown in ground attack at times. So no they didn't always have it pressurized.
So their life support system did not could not maintain outside pressure? That's a lot easier to do than keep it pressurized.
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I heard Midway is willing and able to fly Spit 9's :aok
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I heard Midway is willing and able to fly Spit 9's :aok
i love you too mate :lol
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You need training to fly the Spit IX? Chortle.
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I'm confused.... "learning" the spit?? :)
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Sorry, had to strap on a Limey Spit this scenario. After this back to the Butcher Bird for me, or settle for a 109. Our crew committed Allied so here we are.
Boo
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As for Midway, Bruv when you are done with the ankel humper let me know. Let's send him to Grizz and the Army of Muppets. I hear Grizz is lonely for love in all the wrong places.
And yes Shuffler, we will "train" you on how to fly the Spit 9. For you it's a tall order but once you leave your purdy, shiny little 38 with training wheels and get used to something a little...you know, flight worthy, we can train you just fine. Shall we sign you up? If so, bring a case of scotch, loaf of french bread, whip cream, rouge lipstick and a blindfold. Don't ask any questions, we'll be very detailed in our instructions. Have you ever milked a goat before? Oh whatever, we can teach you that too.
Boo
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Back in H2H days we just told the new guy up a spit, take off and watch or take a nap. Wake up and land your kills. :)
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I'm confused.... "learning" the spit?? :)
Just like any other plane. You need to know what altitude not to fly at, what speed not to turn fight at, what to do not to rip the wings off at high speed ect...
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I heard Midway is willing and able to fly Spit 9's :aok
:huh With LDs? :rolleyes: Will never happen. :headscratch: They just rub me the wrong way with how they fly, but we won't go there here. :bhead
:devil
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:huh With LDs? :rolleyes: Will never happen. :headscratch: They just rub me the wrong way with how they fly, but we won't go there here. :bhead
:devil
That's why you need to bring a shot glass and a sense of humor. :cheers: What's the matter, you can't come in and just have a little fun? :airplane: Gotta be the antagonist all the time? :uhoh We don't pay to play a game YOUR way. :joystick: Nor does anyone pay to make it easy for the other guy to get a kill. :t This is a game to alot of us. :ahand You still haven't come over to help me move some heavy boxes around in my basement either. :O
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Midway, you gotta belong to a squad before you can complain like a squad. Until then you're just borrowing Yarbles thread of many a moon ago. And frankly, you haven't earned Yarbles street cred either. So back on Bruv's ankel for you.
Boo
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Midway, you gotta belong to a squad before you can complain like a squad. Until then you're just borrowing Yarbles thread of many a moon ago. And frankly, you haven't earned Yarbles street cred either. So back on Bruv's ankel for you.
Boo
Interesting. :) Haven't seen Yarbles' thread. :headscratch: So you're saying others have come to the same conclusion independently? :noid
:old: Consider your way, Loose Duece, consider your way.
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:huh With LDs? :rolleyes: Will never happen. :headscratch: They just rub me the wrong way with how they fly, but we won't go there here. :bhead
:devil
omg I've heard it all now. :huh
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Couldn't make it today. Got kidnapped to go to a movie. Nothing deadlier than laser guided wife and kid ack.
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LD :salute
Midway :salute
All part of the fun :aok
Midway I am taking up the spit 9 as my regular ride to cash in on your Kudos :D
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LD :salute
Midway :salute
All part of the fun :aok
Midway I am taking up the spit 9 as my regular ride to cash in on your Kudos :D
:) :aok :salute :rock :banana: :old: :airplane: :joystick: :cool:
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LD :salute
Midway :salute
All part of the fun :aok
Midway I am taking up the spit 9 as my regular ride to cash in on your Kudos :D
"Daft old Toff, Get down from there! You'll hurt yourself you fool" :banana:
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I never heard that before. Why would you want to pressurize a fighter? Even cargo airplanes that fly around combat don't get pressurized. You realize what is going to happen you a single bullet hits the cockpit?
Explosive decompression is generally a myth. Even rapid decompression is unlikely devoid of a major tear in the aircraft's skin. You could shoot a dozen 9mm holes in the fuselage of a 757, and aside from the whistle, you'd notice little to no change in pressure inside the aircraft. Why? Because a 757 has a normal leak area of better than one half of a square foot (total area of all leaks), excluding the design leak rate of the outflow valve. There is plenty of bleed air volume off of the engines (and APU if needed) to maintain cabin pressure. It takes a very large hole to cause cabin pressure to drop enough to require O2 for the passengers and crew.
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Explosive decompression is generally a myth. Even rapid decompression is unlikely devoid of a major tear in the aircraft's skin. You could shoot a dozen 9mm holes in the fuselage of a 757, and aside from the whistle, you'd notice little to no change in pressure inside the aircraft. Why? Because a 757 has a normal leak area of better than one half of a square foot (total area of all leaks), excluding the design leak rate of the outflow valve. There is plenty of bleed air volume off of the engines (and APU if needed) to maintain cabin pressure. It takes a very large hole to cause cabin pressure to drop enough to require O2 for the passengers and crew.
:rolleyes: Clearly you have not seen alien resurection :D
Your logic and reason is not welcome here :old:
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Midway, disappear. Never dare to say a word pointed to the LD again.
"you shall not pass"
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Gents please,
we will go back to topic:
Loose Deuce is manning a Spit 9 squad during the upcoming scenario: Enemy Coast Ahead
Boo is recruiting for his FL Job at this Scenario, nothing else, so please stay on topic here
Thanks
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Loose Deuce is manning a Spit 9 squad during the upcoming scenario: Enemy Coast Ahead
The Few are also manning a squad in the event.
If it was up to me I would devise some evil system by which LD and The Few could have squad rivalry and COMPETE and let all our monster ego's out to play :t Hammer out some system of score and then let rip in the resulting orgy of you know what. Perhaps there was squad rivalry in the RAF anyway.
Being of a sound mind whatever the outcome given this is only a game I would find the process both fun engaging and probably hilarious at various points. However I am sure both Dhryan and Bruv will have extreemly good reasons why this is not a good idea :angel:.
Please LD etc accept my views are not the official views of the Few :pray. (Terms and conditions apply, normal statutory rights are not affected and no purchase necessary :D)
Suggested rules would be kills divided by deaths for both squads at the end of the scenario losing participants have to display "I love Midway, he is my God" in their signiature for a month.
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Holy Cow Yarbles, Vegas style...all in on this one. To quote Kennedy, 'sometimes partisanship asks too much!' haha As for the ankle humper, I thought he was sortof the unofficial mascot of The Few?
As a sign of good faith, I'm up for the challenge. If there is a price to pay, I'll pay the price.
Boo
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TLDR
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As a sign of good faith, I'm up for the challenge. If there is a price to pay, I'll pay the price.
Boo
That's the spirit :aok
My only concern is it might damage the integrity of the scenario though I don't see why :old:
Midway is his own man. I can see why he adhores Bruv with his 2 x TOC and winner of the last Tri Annual plus top in everything on a regular basis. I think he also knows banging on about it winds other people up which is the other thing I think Midway lives for :old:
Anyway
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/Yarbles/ItsOn.jpg)
:devil
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That's the spirit :aok
My only concern is it might damage the integrity of the scenario though I don't see why :old:
Midway is his own man. I can see why he adhores Bruv with his 2 x TOC and winner of the last Tri Annual plus top in everything on a regular basis. I think he also knows banging on about it winds other people up which is the other thing I think Midway lives for :old:
Anyway
(http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/Yarbles/ItsOn.jpg)
:devil
This :aok
:angel:
(but still think Loose Deuce has much to learn with respect to their style of gang-up-on-you "teamwork" style of flying, imho) :rolleyes: Consider your way, Loose Deuce, consider your way, indeed. :bolt:
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This :aok
:angel:
(but still think Loose Deuce has much to learn with respect to their style of gang-up-on-you "teamwork" style of flying, imho) :rolleyes: Consider your way, Loose Deuce, consider your way, indeed. :bolt:
Midway,
i don't know why you think you can blame us everywhere, online at this forum or whereever. The Deucers are in average 45 Years old, most flys online for more than 10 years, we all have a life (job family etc). So with your 23 years, but acting like a 7 years old one, you maybe have some troubles to imagine how things are based on each other.
When i founded the Loose deuce i got wingtactics on my mind, because i played a couple of years before with a squadron named the Parrots. Back in the days we captured like nothing else, but i wanted to optimise something like a group based SA.
We never insulted someone in public, we followed our own Rules:
Rules of the ~<<~Loose Deuce~>>~ Squadron:
1.Wing participation is not mandatory, never the less; Wing participation should be preffered and requests for participation are to be answered at all times. On Squadron Nights all ~<<~Loose Deuce~>>~ Pilots flys together.
2.Every Loose Deuce Pilot reports in via TeamSpeak in order to facilitate communication and coordination of Wings and Formation Flying in flight.
3.To become a Loose Deuce Member you have to be 21 years or older and A Kill/Death Ratio of 1 or more is mandatory.
Everybody will provide maximum assistance best to his abilities that will mainly apply towards newbies. We will never assault any player neither another Loose Deuce nor a stranger in public. Differences of opinion will be dealt with in private (i.e. by e-mail) never in public. If a member of the Loose Deuce is repeatedly attracting attention by means of inappropriate postings of insulting contents expulsion from the squadron might be a consequence
4.The ~<<~Loose Deuce~>>~ Squadron flys for Rooks.
5.Cheating or just the attempt of cheating will result in immediate and irrevocable expulsion of the person accused from the squadron. Enemy pilots rescuing themselves by means of parachute will not be attacked under any circumstances. Members of the ~<<~Loose Deuce~>>~ refrain from any unfair methods. Gaming the Game is not allowed!
6.You never walk alone, even when you are returning to base. Every member will take care of the save returning to base of other members.
Maybe the strongest drawback is that we don't have a rule how to act with trolls, people like you are, who got nothing on their mind to destroy the fun of other. I simply don't get it why you are the way you are! You offend us every day on ch 200 since 3 month now, you talk hour over hour trash, based on lies and crap.
So i tell you, we don't care what you wants to do, we don't care if you HO cry die whatever. We are a squadron based on friendship, so we care about ourself, and we have fun flying together. You fly to chat, you only be online to insult people!
These are my first and my last rows, because it a waste of time to talk to you, i have no problems the way you play or even not, do what you want, but stop insult us LDs severely without any reason!!
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Midway,
i don't know why you think you can blame us everywhere, online at this forum or whereever. The Deucers are in average 45 Years old, most flys online for more than 10 years, we all have a life (job family etc). So with your 23 years, but acting like a 7 years old one, you maybe have some troubles to imagine how things are based on each other.
When i founded the Loose deuce i got wingtactics on my mind, because i played a couple of years before with a squadron named the Parrots. Back in the days we captured like nothing else, but i wanted to optimise something like a group based SA.
We never insulted someone in public, we followed our own Rules:
Rules of the ~<<~Loose Deuce~>>~ Squadron:
1.Wing participation is not mandatory, never the less; Wing participation should be preffered and requests for participation are to be answered at all times. On Squadron Nights all ~<<~Loose Deuce~>>~ Pilots flys together.
2.Every Loose Deuce Pilot reports in via TeamSpeak in order to facilitate communication and coordination of Wings and Formation Flying in flight.
3.To become a Loose Deuce Member you have to be 21 years or older and A Kill/Death Ratio of 1 or more is mandatory.
Everybody will provide maximum assistance best to his abilities that will mainly apply towards newbies. We will never assault any player neither another Loose Deuce nor a stranger in public. Differences of opinion will be dealt with in private (i.e. by e-mail) never in public. If a member of the Loose Deuce is repeatedly attracting attention by means of inappropriate postings of insulting contents expulsion from the squadron might be a consequence
4.The ~<<~Loose Deuce~>>~ Squadron flys for Rooks.
5.Cheating or just the attempt of cheating will result in immediate and irrevocable expulsion of the person accused from the squadron. Enemy pilots rescuing themselves by means of parachute will not be attacked under any circumstances. Members of the ~<<~Loose Deuce~>>~ refrain from any unfair methods. Gaming the Game is not allowed!
6.You never walk alone, even when you are returning to base. Every member will take care of the save returning to base of other members.
Maybe the strongest drawback is that we don't have a rule how to act with trolls, people like you are, who got nothing on their mind to destroy the fun of other. I simply don't get it why you are the way you are! You offend us every day on ch 200 since 3 month now, you talk hour over hour trash, based on lies and crap.
So i tell you, we don't care what you wants to do, we don't care if you HO cry die whatever. We are a squadron based on friendship, so we care about ourself, and we have fun flying together. You fly to chat, you only be online to insult people!
These are my first and my last rows, because it a waste of time to talk to you, i have no problems the way you play or even not, do what you want, but stop insult us LDs severely without any reason!!
:headscratch: So, I'm off the Christmas card list? :uhoh
:neener:
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Midway,
acting like a 7 years old one
We will never assault any player neither another Loose Deuce nor a stranger in public.
Seriously and with respect Dhryan is Midway really to be taken seriously. I think anyone who is anything respects what you have done and continue to do Dhryan even if its not their cup of tea.
In a way I started this perhaps but with hindsight and maybe with a bit more maturity on my part I see what you guys do is different and for that reason conspicuous. People are going to comment and grumble if they cant get at you and you get them, especially because its via teamwork if they are not in a team they will cry about it from time to time. Its because your squad is different it makes the game more interesting which is really the main point people should focus on. You guys WON SDL and have proved yourself if you needed to which you don't in other events. Midway is out to catch us all out for taking ourselves too seriously imo. I may feel differetly if he strats on me or my squad but I hope not.
Now is there any mileage in my competition idea ?
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I may feel differetly if he strats on me or my squad but I hope not.
Midway is out to catch us all out for taking ourselves too seriously imo
Now is there any mileage in my competition idea ?
believe me, you would! Here is a line crossed!
second point, one who plays over 300 hours per tour takes it not seriously??? intresting!
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believe me, you would! Here is a line crossed!
second point, one who plays over 300 hours per tour takes it not seriously??? intresting!
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=C6cxNR9ML8k
:old: :airplane: :joystick:
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Dhyran, my advice is to let it go. Many have given me suggestions for cartoons about Midway but I won't give him the attention he seems to so desperately needs. Personally I feel he is the type of player this game can surely do without. Were it my company he would be gone.
Let it go and ignore him. It's not worth the time or effort.
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Dhyran, my advice is to let it go. Many have given me suggestions for cartoons about Midway but I won't give him the attention he seems to so desperately needs. Personally I feel he is the type of player this game can surely do without. Were it my company he would be gone.
Let it go and ignore him. It's not worth the time or effort.
You still sore about my HOing you? :furious
:old: Learn to avoid the HO. Dip down, veer left! :bhead
:salute
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I have had several people interested in some Spit squad training, I will reach you via PM to set up some times. We also need to register for the SEC Event. If you would like to join in send me a PM, whether you want to fly with us or not. As for this thread, I'm done. (Yarbles, between you and I on Kill/Loss :aok)
Warmest,
Boo
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believe me, you would! Here is a line crossed!
second point, one who plays over 300 hours per tour takes it not seriously??? intresting!
I am not sure I am making myself understood but my point is you and your squads standing and respect in the game is such I would not worry about Midway's jibes.
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(Yarbles, between you and I on Kill/Loss :aok)
Warmest,
Boo
:uhoh I was hoping to ride along on Bruv's coat tails in a team event.
But in the abscence of a team adventure I will accept your indiviudal challenge :aok
Incidently I am a sporting type and the only reason I suggested the team challenge is becase I thought it would be close. I find the community in general not just our squads dissapointing in their lack of taste for this sort of silly nonsense :old: We at least have our wager :salute
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dhyran, check your pm's
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Part of our squad is on each side. lol
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:banana:
dhyran, check your pm's
rgr and thanks!
Salute
dhyran
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Explosive decompression is generally a myth. Even rapid decompression is unlikely devoid of a major tear in the aircraft's skin. You could shoot a dozen 9mm holes in the fuselage of a 757, and aside from the whistle, you'd notice little to no change in pressure inside the aircraft. Why? Because a 757 has a normal leak area of better than one half of a square foot (total area of all leaks), excluding the design leak rate of the outflow valve. There is plenty of bleed air volume off of the engines (and APU if needed) to maintain cabin pressure. It takes a very large hole to cause cabin pressure to drop enough to require O2 for the passengers and crew.
That makes seance, but a canon round (or a 13mm bullet) from a 109 to a Spitfire's pressurized cockpit will be a little different. ;)
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Part of our squad is on each side. lol
Yep there is gonna be some pork on pork as well. GO RAF pork!!!! :rock
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Yep there is gonna be some pork on pork as well. GO RAF pork!!!! :rock
Well LDs are not the fastest spitdweebs, so we changed our minds and signed up as JG III/54 und FL Boo :salute
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Well LDs are not the fastest spitdweebs, so we changed our minds and signed up as JG III/54 und FL Boo :salute
I was happy to see that registration is going so fast Dhyran, but bummed I could not get you guys accommodated.
:salute
Way
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I was happy to see that registration is going so fast Dhyran, but bummed I could not get you guys accommodated.
:salute
Way
no worries!
we all will have a great time :salute
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Yay more LD kills for me :banana: :banana:
:neener:
:bolt: