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Title: Aircraft engine representation in Aces High
Post by: Karnak on October 13, 2011, 11:27:36 PM

I was bored, so as a mental exercise I compiled a list of aircraft engines used in Aces High and the aircraft that use them.  This was out of memory so I may have forgotten some or gotten some wrong.  I used Wikipedia for the D3A1, I-16 and Me163.

Allison V-1710:
P-38G
P-39J
P-38L
P-39D
P-39Q
P-40C
P-40E
P-40N

BMW 801:
Fw190A-5
Fw190A-8
Fw190F-8

Daimler-Benz DB 60X:
Bf109E-4
Bf109F-4
Bf109G-2
Bf109G-6
Bf109G-14
Bf109K-4
Bf110C-4b
Bf110G-2
C.202
C.205

Junkers Jumo 004:
Ar234B
Me262A

Junkers Jumo 21X:
Fw190D-9
Ju87D-3
Ju88A-4
Ta152H-1

Kawasaki Ha-40:
Ki-61-I-Tei

Klimov VK-10X:
Yak-9T
Yak-9U

Mitsubishi Ha-104:
Ki-67

Mitsubishi Kasei:
G4M1

Mitsubishi Kinsei:
D3A1

Mikulin AM-38:
Il-2 3M

Nakajima Homare:
Ki-84-I-Ko
N1K2-J

Nakajima Sakae:
A6M2
A6M3
A6M5b
B5N2

Napier Sabre IIX:
Tempest Mk V
Typhoon Mk Ib

Pratt & Whitney R-1830:
B-24J
C-47A
F4F-4

Pratt & Whitney R-2800:
B-26B
F4U-1
F4U-1A
F4U-1C
F4U-1D
F4U-4
F6F-5
P-47D-11
P-47D-25
P-47D-40
P-47M
P-47N

Rolls-Royce Griffon:
Spitfire Mk XIV

Rolls-Royce/Packard Merlin:
Hurricane Mk I
Hurricane Mk IIc
Hurricane Mk IId
Lancaster Mk III
Mosquito Mk VI
Mosquito Mk XVI
P-40F
P-51B
P-51D
Seafire Mk II
Spitfire Mk Ia
Spitfire Mk Vb
Spitfire Mk VIII
Spitfire Mk IX
Spitfire Mk XVI

Shvetsov ASh-82FN:
La-5FN
La-7

Shvetsov M-63:
I-16-24

Walter HWK 109-509:
Me163

Wright R-1820:
B-17G
B-239 Brewster
FM-2
SBD-5

Wright R-2600:
A-20G
B-25C
B-25H
Boston Mk III
TBM-3

Wright R-3350:
B-29A

Title: Re: Aircraft engine representation in Aces High
Post by: Wmaker on October 14, 2011, 03:12:59 AM

Yep.

Svetsov M-63 is in a way part of the Cyclone family and Ha-40 is a licence built Benz. So either Ki-61 belongs to the DB column or Macchis should be taken out aswell. ;)

Title: Re: Aircraft engine representation in Aces High
Post by: Karnak on October 14, 2011, 03:52:21 AM

Quote from: Wmaker on October 14, 2011, 03:12:59 AM

Yep.

Svetsov M-63 is in a way part of the Cyclone family and Ha-40 is a licence built Benz. So either Ki-61 belongs to the DB column or Macchis should be taken out aswell. ;)

Yeah, I know, and initially I was listing things that way, but it just became cumbersome.  The C.205 and C.202 actually use DB 60X engines, not just engines derived from them the the Ki-61's heavily modified Ha-40.

A lot of other engines were going to have to be listed as derivatives as if I had gone that way.  The Russians were going to be left with only the Mikulin AM-38 as their other engines are derived from the cyclone, even the ASh-82, or the Hispano-Suiza.  Most Japanese engines were derived from other designs as well.

Title: Re: Aircraft engine representation in Aces High
Post by: Wmaker on October 14, 2011, 03:58:57 AM

Ha-40 wasn't heavily modified but a straight copy, ie. a licence-built DB.

The later engine which powered the KI-61-II was indeed a Japanese modification of the DB.

And Ash-82 certainly was a Soviet born engine although Cyclone-9's design certainly was looked at while it was designed.

Title: Re: Aircraft engine representation in Aces High
Post by: Karnak on October 14, 2011, 04:40:29 AM

My understanding was that the Ha-40 was significantly lightened compared to a DB 601, which didn't do good things for its reliability.

As to the ASh-82, I may have been mistaken in my recollections.

Title: Re: Aircraft engine representation in Aces High
Post by: kilo2 on October 14, 2011, 06:07:00 AM

Ta152H-1 Jumo 213-E/E1

Title: Re: Aircraft engine representation in Aces High
Post by: moot on October 14, 2011, 08:53:19 AM

Karnak chose to designate the whole 2100 series of Jumos as "21X" which isn't immediately clear to probably anyone who hasn't dried their eyes bookworming thru jumo documents and other luftwaffle papierkrieg

Title: Re: Aircraft engine representation in Aces High
Post by: kilo2 on October 15, 2011, 12:31:10 AM

Quote from: moot on October 14, 2011, 08:53:19 AM

Karnak chose to designate the whole 2100 series of Jumos as "21X" which isn't immediately clear to probably anyone who hasn't dried their eyes bookworming thru jumo documents and other luftwaffle papierkrieg

 I thought that might have been what it ment. why not post the engine for those that don't know or may be interested.

Title: Re: Aircraft engine representation in Aces High
Post by: pervert on October 15, 2011, 07:15:14 AM

Quote from: kilo2 on October 15, 2011, 12:31:10 AM

I thought that might have been what it ment. why not post the engine for those that don't know or may be interested.

Doras 213? Not a varient of the diesel engine? That what your talking about?

Title: Re: Aircraft engine representation in Aces High
Post by: oboe on October 15, 2011, 07:27:05 AM

Very interesring Karnak, and useful for people putting together custom soundpacks.

Title: Re: Aircraft engine representation in Aces High
Post by: Karnak on October 15, 2011, 08:25:39 PM

Quote from: oboe on October 15, 2011, 07:27:05 AM

Very interesring Karnak, and useful for people putting together custom soundpacks.

For sound pack purposes I would put the Ki-61s in the Daimler Benz 60X category and I'd split the Jumo 21X into the Jumo 211 powered Ju87 and Ju88 and the Jumo 213 powered Fw190D-9 and Ta152.

Title: Re: Aircraft engine representation in Aces High
Post by: Raptor05121 on October 20, 2011, 09:49:11 AM

Might as well as the Me410 to the "DB 60X" list.

Title: Re: Aircraft engine representation in Aces High
Post by: Karnak on October 20, 2011, 03:22:34 PM

Quote from: Raptor05121 on October 20, 2011, 09:49:11 AM

Might as well as the Me410 to the "DB 60X" list.

Not yet, there is a chance that I'll have to add a Bristol engine or a Rolls-Royce Derwent engine.

Title: Re: Aircraft engine representation in Aces High
Post by: gyrene81 on October 20, 2011, 03:35:22 PM

any idea exactly which engine is modeled in the 109g6 and 190a8?