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Title: Far Out!
Post by: Lusche on October 15, 2011, 04:24:41 PM
Lately I was toying around with a few different concepts for my next annual stats thread.

And while I tested some new chart stuff, I suddenly noticed one player truly being his own star, hovering far above us puny mortals... :uhoh
Yes, you already knew that, but I have a chart to prove it!  :old:


(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8027/playergalaxy140lw1.jpg)

 :banana:



Disclaimer: This us a lighthearted forum post with the sole intention of having fun. I am not responsible for any possible degradation of this thread into name-calling and player bashing, or misuse of the charts for proving how much AH, it's players or the OP do suck theses days.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: RTHolmes on October 15, 2011, 04:39:00 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: 68ZooM on October 15, 2011, 04:40:29 PM
I have a new FPH, he stands alone  :salute
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: ink on October 15, 2011, 04:41:52 PM
323 hours :O
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: BaldEagl on October 15, 2011, 05:15:27 PM
323 hours :O

And still under 1 K/D   :bhead
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: MachFly on October 15, 2011, 05:31:15 PM
 :rofl

That's just sad
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: JOACH1M on October 15, 2011, 05:35:56 PM
 :lol wonderful
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Lusche on October 15, 2011, 05:36:12 PM
BTW, you folks can play "find your dot". You are all in there, if ya played in LWTour140...   ;)
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: MajWoody on October 15, 2011, 05:38:14 PM
When does he find time to sleep?      (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j199/fergy61/backlaugh.gif)
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: MachFly on October 15, 2011, 05:40:09 PM
BTW, you folks can play "find your dot". You are all in there, if ya played in LWTour140...   ;)


Is this me?

(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8027/playergalaxy140lw1.jpg)


Didn't have much time to play last month.
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: uptown on October 15, 2011, 05:43:23 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: dhyran on October 15, 2011, 05:51:46 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Lusche on October 15, 2011, 06:01:53 PM

Is this me?

(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8027/playergalaxy140lw1.jpg)

No ,that's Mutha. You are there:

(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2074/playergalaxy140lw2.jpg)


And no, I'm not going to identify everybody now. This was supposed to be fun, not work  :P
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: MachFly on October 15, 2011, 06:09:03 PM
No ,that's Mutha. You are there:

(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2074/playergalaxy140lw2.jpg)

Thanks

I was close

Quote
And no, I'm not going to identify everybody now. This was supposed to be fun, not work  :P

It was your idea  :neener:  :D
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 15, 2011, 06:09:22 PM
Where am I at on the chart?

ack-ack
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: ink on October 15, 2011, 06:43:35 PM
it depends on how you are configuring....but my guess



(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/fieldsofink/playergalaxy140lw1.jpg)
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: chaser on October 15, 2011, 08:04:20 PM
I think this is mine!  :joystick:

(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss304/longhornsfan2010/playergalaxy140lw1.jpg)


Ok not really. But I would love to know who that is lol

I'm in that massive black ball in the corner  :bolt:
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: MK-84 on October 15, 2011, 08:15:02 PM
     How did you come up with the death total for fighter/attack?  I can find the kills for them, but the deaths are totaled as one.  I can not subtract the bombers out because I do not know if I flew them as attack or bomber (i.e B25)
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Lusche on October 15, 2011, 08:24:55 PM
     How did you come up with the death total for fighter/attack?  I can find the kills for them, but the deaths are totaled as one.  I can not subtract the bombers out because I do not know if I flew them as attack or bomber (i.e B25)

You don't go by plane. You simply check the pilot score sheet, which lists kills for fighter, bomber and attack mode separately. And by the way, for this chart I ignored all discos. Death (X-axis on the chart) = sum of fighter and attack bail + capture + death.
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: MachFly on October 15, 2011, 08:38:02 PM
You don't go by plane. You simply check the pilot score sheet, which lists kills for fighter, bomber and attack mode separately. And by the way, for this chart I ignored all discos. Death (X-axis on the chart) = sum of fighter and attack bail + capture + death.

How long did this one take you? and are you planning on making a big one for the year?
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: JOACH1M on October 15, 2011, 08:40:52 PM
(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b461/snax6/764ed952.jpg)me?
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: MachFly on October 15, 2011, 08:44:19 PM
You guys do know that you can approximate your position by matching your K/D to the chart. I did that and was only two dots off.
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: MK-84 on October 15, 2011, 08:44:34 PM
You don't go by plane. You simply check the pilot score sheet, which lists kills for fighter, bomber and attack mode separately. And by the way, for this chart I ignored all discos. Death (X-axis on the chart) = sum of fighter and attack bail + capture + death.

I must be missing something, I checked my pilot score, but Kills are broken up for Fighter/attack/bomber/gv, but deaths are grouped into one big pool.
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: BaldEagl on October 15, 2011, 08:52:52 PM
I must be missing something, I checked my pilot score, but Kills are broken up for Fighter/attack/bomber/gv, but deaths are grouped into one big pool.

Go to pilot score, not pilot stats.
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: M0nkey_Man on October 15, 2011, 08:55:00 PM
probably in the middle of that massive horde :lol
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: MK-84 on October 15, 2011, 08:58:09 PM
Go to pilot score, not pilot stats.

man life is harder being stupid :uhoh
307 kills
204 deaths

got it now :aok
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Midway on October 15, 2011, 09:00:25 PM
 :O Bruv, I'm making a sharp left turn and gonna head your way now.  :cry

 :old: FPHs and their wannabes should not be seperated by such great distance on the x axis.

 :airplane: :joystick:
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Lusche on October 15, 2011, 09:00:35 PM
How long did this one take you?


Very difficult to tell, as it was just a byproduct of a bigger and more complex process. The data had already been there, was just another idea to filter  process and present it in a different way. I was originally looking for a way to determine the "dominance factor" for individual players, which was originally something I did for fighter planes and tanks. And this "dominance factor" is in turn a try to find out if any notable changes had happened to the pilot vs pilot balance (vets vs noobs, butchers vs baby seals) over the last 10 years.
Basically I started with that stuff more than a year ago.

and are you planning on making a big one for the year?

If everything works out as planned , this one will be much different from my previous ones. Those have become kinda boring, there is not that much change beyond "...the La-7 went 4 places up in the usage chart. And now for the newest entry in the AH hit parade... ".
So as I hate routine work, I plan something different, not limited to this year but selected stuff from 2001 to 2011. "Change & Constancy".

Unfortunately real life currently doesn't care much for my "plans", so I just have to see how much I can really commit myself to this ;)



Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: MK-84 on October 15, 2011, 09:00:47 PM
hmm, there is a gap with 307/204..I do not exist :uhoh

But yet I think, therfore I am :headscratch:
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Lusche on October 15, 2011, 09:04:11 PM
hmm, there is a gap with 307/204..I do not exist :uhoh

But yet I think, therfore I am :headscratch:


You have forgotten to include "captured" and "bailed" in your deaths :)
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Karnak on October 15, 2011, 09:06:23 PM
hmm, there is a gap with 307/204..I do not exist :uhoh

But yet I think, therfore I am :headscratch:
How many kills have you gotten since Lusche pulled the data for that chart?  Perhaps something close to 307/204?
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Lusche on October 15, 2011, 09:08:33 PM
How many kills have you gotten since Lusche pulled the data for that chart?  Perhaps something close to 307/204?

The chart is for tour 140, last month.
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: MachFly on October 15, 2011, 09:15:06 PM

Very difficult to tell, as it was just a byproduct of a bigger and more complex process. The data had already been there, was just another idea to filter  process and present it in a different way. I was originally looking for a way to determine the "dominance factor" for individual players, which was originally something I did for fighter planes and tanks. And this "dominance factor" is in turn a try to find out if any notable changes had happened to the pilot vs pilot balance (vets vs noobs, butchers vs baby seals) over the last 10 years.
Basically I started with that stuff more than a year ago.

If everything works out as planned , this one will be much different from my previous ones. Those have become kinda boring, there is not that much change beyond "...the La-7 went 4 places up in the usage chart. And now for the newest entry in the AH hit parade... ".
So as I hate routine work, I plan something different, not limited to this year but selected stuff from 2001 to 2011. "Change & Constancy".

Unfortunately real life currently doesn't care much for my "plans", so I just have to see how much I can really commit myself to this ;)





Roger


Thanks for posting it.
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 15, 2011, 09:26:24 PM
I guess this would be me.

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm94/Ack-Ack/playergalaxy140lw1.jpg)

ack-ack
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Lusche on October 15, 2011, 09:32:47 PM
I guess this would be me.

No,you have 511  kills and thus are just outside of that chart. You can find your dot on the large scale map. Just a small tad above the 500 line.
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Lusche on October 15, 2011, 09:39:35 PM
hmm... one could turn this into a nice web based application. Enter your name and select one of many standard and custom score data for each axis, and see your dot highlighted among your fellow pilots

Not that I'm going to do that. I'm trying to get a life, not to wreck it for good  :lol

Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: MachFly on October 15, 2011, 09:43:36 PM
hmm... one could turn this into a nice web based application. Enter your name and select one of many standard and custom score data for each axis, and see your dot highlighted among your fellow pilots

Not that I'm going to do that. I'm trying to get a life, not to wreck it for good  :lol



HTC should take note  :noid
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: MK-84 on October 15, 2011, 09:48:35 PM
hmm... one could turn this into a nice web based application. Enter your name and select one of many standard and custom score data for each axis, and see your dot highlighted among your fellow pilots

Not that I'm going to do that. I'm trying to get a life, not to wreck it for good  :lol



You may be already too far gone :D

Ok revised is 307/257  I can see myself on the chart now.

May I ask why include "bailed" if you do not count ditch?  Both in my opinion would be a successful end to a sortie.  Being killed is obvious, and captured, would end your cartoon pilots career, however a bail in friendly territory just as a ditch in friendly would not.
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Lusche on October 15, 2011, 09:53:33 PM
May I ask why include "bailed" if you do not count ditch? 

Because it's a death in AH too. I only dropped discos this time to speed things up a bit, on this scale it didn't matter that much - and also this was never meant to be a "serious", "official" chart anyway. ;)
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Lusche on October 15, 2011, 10:27:41 PM
For nostalgic reasons only: A tour exactly four years earlier:

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7631/galaxy921.jpg)

Look all those old names...  :cry
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Midway on October 15, 2011, 10:29:24 PM
hmm... one could turn this into a nice web based application. Enter your name and select one of many standard and custom score data for each axis, and see your dot highlighted among your fellow pilots

Not that I'm going to do that. I'm trying to get a life, not to wreck it for good  :lol



and charge $1 per query.   :D

 :old:  People will pay good money to find out about themselves compared to others.

 :noid

err: make it $1.29 to match Itunes charges for a song.

 :noid
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Midway on October 15, 2011, 10:32:00 PM
For nostalgic reasons only: A tour exactly four years earlier:

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7631/galaxy921.jpg)

Look all those old names...  :cry

Wow!  That MiaMiAce is something awesome. :salute :rock
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Lusche on October 15, 2011, 10:47:40 PM
and charge $1 per query.   :D

 :old:  People will pay good money to find out about themselves compared to others.

 :noid

err: make it $1.29 to match Itunes charges for a song.

 :noid

I'm afraid Mr. Hitech might object to someone else than himself getting rich with his property  :devil
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Midway on October 15, 2011, 11:22:26 PM
I'm afraid Mr. Hitech might object to someone else than himself getting rich with his property  :devil

 :old:  It's nice to share.

Perhaps a deal could be worked.  :headscratch:

 :)
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: USRanger on October 15, 2011, 11:45:12 PM
58 hours a week playing AH??.... :eek:
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Midway on October 16, 2011, 12:03:19 AM
58 hours a week playing AH??.... :eek:

yeah, guessing 4 hrs day, 4 hrs at night roughly.   :aok
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: 68ZooM on October 16, 2011, 01:57:48 AM
58 hours a week playing AH??.... :eek:

630 hours combined aug/sept that's over 10hrs day  :O
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: ARSNishi on October 16, 2011, 06:55:21 AM
Just wondering if i figured right   :headscratch: 
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/Nishizawa_photos/playergalaxy140lw12.jpg)

Always interesting stuff Lusche
:salute  Nish
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Kazan_HB on October 16, 2011, 08:33:36 AM
I see Midway over the top... :headscratch:
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: StokesAk on October 16, 2011, 09:52:43 AM
I am guessing that this dot is me.

(http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp313/Strokeys/playergalaxy140lw1.jpg)
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: BaldEagl on October 16, 2011, 10:38:43 AM
I believe I have found my dot but it was hard to decide if it was this one or the one next to it:

(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/playergalaxy140lw2.jpg)

Which would be this one in the larger universe:

(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww72/imbe/playergalaxy140lw1.jpg)
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: mutha on October 16, 2011, 10:50:13 AM
Mentioned in dispatches!  Finally!


Mutha Teresa
--(--------------
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: MK-84 on October 16, 2011, 11:16:53 AM
Really cool stuff luche :aok
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Ruah on October 16, 2011, 11:44:45 AM
wow, thats great, I am just under the median line, somewhere in the middle of that blob - which is good.

Oh and your disclaimer is brilliant. . . that alone made me smile (and i think was successful).

<3
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: PuppetZ on October 16, 2011, 10:50:40 PM
630 hours combined aug/sept that's over 10hrs day  :O

I cant believe it either. Wow! Just wow... :O
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: ink on October 17, 2011, 12:40:35 AM
So was I right Snail?

I just used the full deaths count but....throw me a bone here will ya :confused:
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Slate on October 17, 2011, 09:50:35 AM
  Not at the Blob but not too far out. I think I got it close.

 

(http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv15/d0nwaters/MyLocation.jpg)
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Zoney on October 17, 2011, 10:44:38 AM
OK, I'm computer illiterate, I dont know how to do that "arrow thingy, this is me".  Come on Snailman, show me, show me, show me, please.  I have candy...............
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Soulyss on October 17, 2011, 10:53:06 AM
I think we need to bring back the age-old, time honored tradition of the "Pasty-Skin Award".

:)
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Zoney on October 17, 2011, 02:01:01 PM

I'm bettin this is me, hope this works, first time with photobucket.


(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/masonftp/aces.jpg)
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Babalonian on October 17, 2011, 05:22:48 PM
No ,that's Mutha. You are there:

(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2074/playergalaxy140lw2.jpg)


And no, I'm not going to identify everybody now. This was supposed to be fun, not work  :P


Awww, but but but, we all want to know where own little star in the sky is.  :D
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Ardy123 on October 17, 2011, 07:30:36 PM
Luche,
is that me?

oh and WTG midway  :aok :rofl :aok

(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/6a096.png)
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Ardy123 on October 17, 2011, 07:36:00 PM

You have forgotten to include "captured" and "bailed" in your deaths :)

Why would you add bailed? if you bail over enemy terr == captured so your number could be counted twice
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Babalonian on October 17, 2011, 07:51:07 PM
Think Midway stood out last tour, wait 'til you crunch the numbers for this tour.  :D
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Lusche on October 17, 2011, 08:10:18 PM
Why would you add bailed? if you bail over enemy terr == captured so your number could be counted twice



A mission can only end with "captured" or "bailed". It can't be both of them and thus can't be counted double at all.

Non death sortie endings:
Landed
Ditched

Full death sortie endings:
Death
Bailed (= in friendly territory
Captured ( =  in enemy territory)

Half death sortie ending:
Disco

And that's how things are set up by HTC, not by me. I just dropped discos this time to speed up things, apart from that I followed the official rules. :)
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Ardy123 on October 17, 2011, 10:54:44 PM
Bailed (= in friendly territory

as for it counting to your k/d, I don't know about that.
One can bail with no enemies around and no damage and no one gets the kill. If its a zero-sum game, no kill for another must equate to no death for you.


Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Lusche on October 18, 2011, 03:45:02 AM
as for it counting to your k/d, I don't know about that.
One can bail with no enemies around and no damage and no one gets the kill. If its a zero-sum game, no kill for another must equate to no death for you.


As far as player score is concerned, it is not. I f you fly into a mountain with no one around, no one gets the kill either - but you are still dead. ;)
It's only a zero sum game for plane based stats.

FYI in tour 140, 479k deaths have been suffered according to the plane stats pages. But if you check the scores of all those players appearing on the plane stats pages, you will find 563k total deaths. About 15% of all score "deaths" (excluding disco) had no victor.  :old:

Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Ardy123 on October 18, 2011, 04:11:24 AM
As far as player score is concerned, it is not. I f you fly into a mountain with no one around, no one gets the kill either - but you are still dead. ;)
It's only a zero sum game for plane based stats.

FYI in tour 140, 479k deaths have been suffered according to the plane stats pages. But if you check the scores of all those players appearing on the plane stats pages, you will find 563k total deaths. About 15% of all score "deaths" (excluding disco) had no victor.  :old:
hmm interesting... learned something new about AH scoring.
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Vinkman on October 18, 2011, 08:19:07 AM
hmm interesting... learned something new about AH scoring.


FYI

Did you know that your fighter rank is just the sum of your ranks in the various categories listed under fighter score, rolled up into one number and then ranked? Your overall RANk is the sum of your fighter, attack, vehicle, Bomber, etc...rolled up into one number and ranked.
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Shuffler on October 18, 2011, 09:33:47 AM
I thought this was a thread on the old single panel cartoon.
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Slate on October 18, 2011, 09:52:02 AM
I thought this was a thread on the old single panel cartoon.

  Might be thinking of The Far Side?

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/hafabee/fs26.jpg)
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Shuffler on October 18, 2011, 10:22:31 AM
Exactly...... just getting old. lol
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: moot on October 18, 2011, 02:45:11 PM
I'm confused.  Who is "Galaxy"?
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Lusche on October 18, 2011, 05:17:14 PM
I'm confused.  Who is "Galaxy"?

A player from tour 22.  :P
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: BaldEagl on October 18, 2011, 11:48:33 PM
 Might be thinking of The Far Side?

(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w84/hafabee/fs26.jpg)

My favorite Far Side cartoon was two guys flying over a deserted island.  There was person on the island who had placed tree trunks on the beach spelling HELP but the one tree at the end of the p had washed away.  The Pilot was saying "Oh, nevermind, it says HELF" as he was turning away.

 :rofl
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Shuffler on October 19, 2011, 12:47:43 PM
I like the one with an alligator kicked back on the shore..... a broken paddle, kayak, and clothing nearby. He's thinking... "no hooves, no horns niceeeeeee.
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: moot on October 19, 2011, 01:08:01 PM
The parrot caged near the elevator that secretly enjoyed the sound of elevator-riders' heads when they knocked into one another.
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Midway on October 19, 2011, 01:35:50 PM
Papa bear telling bedtime story to son while holding two human skulls and sitting in cave with human bones everywhere.   Son bear says "One more time, please dad!".  Papa bear says "Alright, son."  Then Papa bear moves mouth on human skull in one hand saying "Hey Joe,  you think there are any bears in this cave."   Then moves mouth on other human skull.  "Gee, I don't know George.  Let's check and see."

 :lol
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: RTHolmes on October 19, 2011, 02:29:13 PM
(http://seattle98.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/17.jpg?w=511&h=646)

my fave :D
Title: Re: Far Out!
Post by: Slate on October 20, 2011, 09:13:05 AM
  Airplane theme.......

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/Zippozeppo/far-side.jpg)