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Title: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: Midway on November 04, 2011, 06:26:15 AM
We have these great looking strats with huge cities and factories.  Would be fun to be able to go tanking to take factories down and battle in and around them.  :aok

 :pray :)
Title: Re: Gv spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: DeadStik on November 04, 2011, 06:32:59 AM
I like the thought! The question of course becomes, "which field would they spawn from?" There would have to be a way to shut down the enemy's spawn. Also, the strats need to have more effect on our gameplay otherwise it's just another "Strats are flashing. Meh. Someone else can get the free kill."
Title: Re: Gv spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: Midway on November 04, 2011, 08:31:34 AM
I like the thought! The question of course becomes, "which field would they spawn from?" There would have to be a way to shut down the enemy's spawn. Also, the strats need to have more effect on our gameplay otherwise it's just another "Strats are flashing. Meh. Someone else can get the free kill."

From VHs at HQ or in the strat city :)
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: DarkHawk on November 04, 2011, 09:16:02 AM
how about this instead,  in tank town have the city stat setup for every one to battle in. 
DHawk
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: Raphael on November 04, 2011, 09:30:42 AM
good idea midway
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: icepac on November 04, 2011, 11:25:47 AM
I drive to the city and shoot it up at least twice a week.

LOL at the guys who can't be bothered to invest more than 4 minutes drive from an unrealistic spawn point.
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: DeadStik on November 04, 2011, 11:55:48 AM
I drive to the city and shoot it up at least twice a week.

LOL at the guys who can't be bothered to invest more than 4 minutes drive from an unrealistic spawn point.

How long of a drive is that?
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: Krusty on November 04, 2011, 12:00:46 PM
Milkrun-fest?

Nah... We need normal strats and GVs can spawn to those, but I don't think they should on the big strats. Too much potential for abuse and milkrunning/porking.
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: DeadStik on November 04, 2011, 12:51:18 PM
Milkrun-fest?

Nah... We need normal strats and GVs can spawn to those, but I don't think they should on the big strats. Too much potential for abuse and milkrunning/porking.

This sounds like the best of both worlds. Fix the strat distribution and add the vehicle spawns back to them! If memory serves, this is the way it USED to be. Now we have those spawns still in place but no strat to correspond!
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: Midway on November 04, 2011, 01:10:29 PM
I drive to the city and shoot it up at least twice a week.

LOL at the guys who can't be bothered to invest more than 4 minutes drive from an unrealistic spawn point.

 :huh

Assuming 25mph that's 1 hour per sector (assuming land is flat),  Nearest strats are maybe 6 sectors (sometimes more) away....  You spend six hours driving over land?   :headscratch:  I'd love to take a tank into an enemy strat... don't know how.  Be fun to drive around and hit the ack and factories with HE rounds.  Better if enemy can up a tank and defend as well.  :aok

 :pray :)

Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: thndregg on November 04, 2011, 02:00:24 PM
If memory serves, this is the way it USED to be. Now we have those spawns still in place but no strat to correspond!

It was removed because of the relative ease of padding score, so I recall. If it were implemented again, the same behavior would resume.
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: Midway on November 04, 2011, 02:14:02 PM
It was removed because of the relative ease of padding score, so I recall. If it were implemented again, the same behavior would resume.

 :huh  Padding score.  Let them pad score. :rolleyes:  How does that hurt having fun?   :headscratch:  Most people likely don't even care about score as much as fun :banana:, skills  :banana:, and kills :banana:.  Those that care about score... let them pad.  :aok

 :noid
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: The Fugitive on November 04, 2011, 03:09:28 PM
It was removed because of the relative ease of padding score, so I recall. If it were implemented again, the same behavior would resume.

I don't know if that was the reason they were removed. I think it's more likely that each map would have had to have been redone to move the spawn points to the new "one piece" depot they made. Also I think the "retreating" mode for the depots would throw a wrench into that as well.

Personally I'd like to see it go back to the old way. You could always hunt milk running buffs when the fights dried up, or dive bombed GV's milking them as well. Was just another thing you could do in the game. Not to mention the effect of hitting those strats use to have on the zone bases.
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: Lusche on November 04, 2011, 04:27:50 PM
It was removed because of the relative ease of padding score, so I recall. If it were implemented again, the same behavior would resume.

I don't know if that had been a reason at all, but in the end, players can and will pad their score all the time in some way. We now bomb town centers instead of factories, which is actually much easier because they are available as targets all of the time, and the bomber's course is much less predictable.

And score is always relative, if you make something related to score more "difficult", most of the time it also lowers the level required to get a good score. Base captures have gotten more difficult? Great, only one capture required nowadays to get a good score.
Less chances to rack up damage points in GV? Fine, the overall average damage score for players goes down that one single tank sortie into an enemy town in a remote corner will be enough to "pad" your score.


I was killing isolated strats a lot in the past. But on the other hand, I was also using them to fight. I was intercepting high altitude bombers and I was flying noe near a friendly strat in enemy territory to catch unsuspecting milk runners. The latter one was always a great PM whine generator :D

Sometimes, when a friendly Vbase was about to fall by incoming horde and that Vbase had a spawn to one of our factories, I was quickly spawning there in a tank. 15-20 minutes later the enemy would start to roll tanks, ostwinds or lvts to milk the strat but ... :devil

I really miss that kind of stuff.

Not to forget the strat system made some bases higher priority targets in attack as well as in defence: The zone bases.


I think the new strats was in some way a step into the right direction, but unfortunately it was only done superficially. I was welcoming them, because I thought they would generate more high altitude, long range missions . And they did, for a month. Then players learned the results were hardly worth the effort. More time & risks for a minuscule impact on the war and often actually a negative impact on score & points.

Personally I think a combination of more local zone targets (must not be the ol strats, one big railyard per zone would be great) as well a central strat complex with significantly increased impact (even just for score only) would be the best solution.
More variety in targets, more variety in missions, more variety in gameplay options, a bit more strategy in a game currently concentrating almost exclusively on tactical "flatten town & FH" gameplay
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: MAINER on November 04, 2011, 04:53:22 PM
+1   
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: Tank-Ace on November 04, 2011, 06:19:24 PM
Wow, Midway actually came out with something good. Thats suprising.
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: DeadStik on November 04, 2011, 07:01:35 PM
Wow, Midway actually came out with something good. Thats suprising.

Good, constructive use of your forum privileges, Tank-Ace. High five.
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: Tank-Ace on November 04, 2011, 10:25:57 PM
Just saying, hes been saying "lets improve the already pretty damn good flight modeling! I'm sure theres nothing more urgent to be done" or talking about how you can single-handedly cap a base with a wirblewind.


Its out of the standard range of deviation is all.
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: icepac on November 05, 2011, 10:33:38 AM
:huh

Assuming 25mph that's 1 hour per sector (assuming land is flat),  Nearest strats are maybe 6 sectors (sometimes more) away....  You spend six hours driving over land?   :headscratch:  I'd love to take a tank into an enemy strat... don't know how.  Be fun to drive around and hit the ack and factories with HE rounds.  Better if enemy can up a tank and defend as well.  :aok

 :pray :)



As usual.....you are incorrect.

I do strat runs by working hard to capture a certain base that has a remote spawn point within 1 to 1.5 sectors from the city.

That base rarely stays up long so I will hide the tank away from the spawn and go work on a car...........then I come back to find the base recaptured by the enemy and motor on to the strats knowing none of the enemy would suspect a tank there.

Then I mention bombing strats on country channel and someone decides it sounds like fun so I wait until he flashes the strats and go in with the tank to finish off whatever strats. he has damaged and then leave to non-flash range and shoot the trains incoming to that particular strat until ammo gone.

M4 with missiles loadout rules for this mission.

It happens about once a week but sometimes 3 or 4 times per week.
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: Midway on November 05, 2011, 11:44:40 AM
As usual.....you are incorrect.

I do strat runs by working hard to capture a certain base that has a remote spawn point within 1 to 1.5 sectors from the city.

That base rarely stays up long so I will hide the tank away from the spawn and go work on a car...........then I come back to find the base recaptured by the enemy and motor on to the strats knowing none of the enemy would suspect a tank there.

Then I mention bombing strats on country channel and someone decides it sounds like fun so I wait until he flashes the strats and go in with the tank to finish off whatever strats. he has damaged and then leave to non-flash range and shoot the trains incoming to that particular strat until ammo gone.

M4 with missiles loadout rules for this mission.

It happens about once a week but sometimes 3 or 4 times per week.

Thanks.  That is what I was asking.  How you do it.  It is unique, and I kind of like your style, like bringing an ar234 to 70k, etc.   You look for unique ways to push the limits of the game.  I tried matching your me163 altitude climb and can not get close.  :salute :rock

I like finding one person unique activities, on occasion.   Perhaps some of us have this in common?   :)

 :aok
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: Midway on December 01, 2011, 01:25:01 AM
Captured two v bases that led to nit strats spawn tonight...  :aok  

Was a long drive to nit strats (about 10 miles) from the spawn.   :frown:

But once I got there, had a lot of fun blowing up strats and hiding / being chased by air cons and GVs.    :banana: :banana: :banana:

We really need spawns from each strat to other country strats because I think a lot of tanks would have fun fighting it out in the strats.  

Would be a lot of fun to tank in and around the cities and factories since there is also a purpose (to blow up the strats and HQ)  :x

 :)

 :old: Tanking can be fun in cities and around factories.
Title: Re: GV spawns from each country's strats into the other two country's strats
Post by: chris3 on December 01, 2011, 05:49:40 AM
moin

what if the strats will not move to the back if the frontline gets closer and we get 5-6 v- bases in the big city.
after losing all v bases in the strat target the war is over and the country with the most land wins.
imagine the hard fight on the way to the big city and imagine the big battels around and in the citys.
 would be fun i think.

cu christian