Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: atom360 on November 11, 2011, 03:55:27 AM
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It can be our first observation and liaison aircraft were used by the United States Army Air Corps in World War II. It can be piloted and the other passenger takes pictures (like a spy plane) and what I'm thinking that this plane will collect data on CVs, airfields and more and the pictures will be posted in the tower or the Club and it will take time for the pictures to come like 10-15*. :noid
HERE ARE SOME STATS :) *not the exact time(only a guess) :salute
General characteristics
Crew: 2: pilot, observer
Length: 21 ft 10 in (6.67 m)
Wingspan: 35 ft 0 in (10.67 m)
Height: 9 ft 1 in (2.74 m)
Wing area: 169 ft² (15.6 m²)
Empty weight: 835 lb (379 kg)
Loaded weight: 1,260 lb (572 kg)
Powerplant: 1 × Continental O-170-3 OR a Continental O-65-8 flat-4 engine, 65 hp (48 kW)
Performance
Maximum speed: 87 mph (76 kn, 139 km/h)
Cruise speed: 79 mph (69 kn, 126 km/h)
Stall speed: 46 mph (40 kn, 73 km/h)
Range: 218 mi (189 nmi, 350 km)
Service ceiling: 10,000 ft (3,050 m)
Wing loading: 7.45 lb/ft² (36.1 kg/m²)
Power/mass: .051 hp/lb (85 W/kg)
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-1 We already have spies for that
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A grass hopper flying into enemy airspace to take pictures of airfields.
Two questions arise:
1. What would that pictures help? I have pictures of all of them on my clipboard already. And everybody playing for more than a day quickly knows the layout by memory...
2. What are the chances of an unarmed 87mph plane to get home with the pics at all? :devil
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would rather have a piper l-4 or a stinson l-5
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A grass hopper flying into enemy airspace to take pictures of airfields.
Two questions arise:
1. What would that pictures help? I have pictures of all of them on my clipboard already. And everybody playing for more than a day quickly knows the layout by memory...
2. What are the chances of an unarmed 87mph plane to get home with the pics at all? :devil
"It will COLLECT data" from the ships etc and the airfields so we can do a bombrun or look at how the towns look like...i don't know if it is a REALLY bad choice we jest need spyplanes.
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"It will COLLECT data" from the ships etc and the airfields so we can do a bombrun or look at how the towns look like...i don't know if it is a REALLY bad choice we jest need spyplanes.
got plenty of those already included...just look at the list of airplanes in the hangar and pick one. all of them are faster than 87mph, can fly from 100ft to 30,000+ ft...not to mention almost all of them have the ability to defend themselves.
if you really want to fly low and slow, grab your plane of choice and cut the throttle back until it's just above stall. problem solved.
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+1 for the plne but -1 for the role
I've asked for this in the past, but would like to see it enabled from the large hanger on GV bases, to scout for GVs when the nest airfield is a long flight away..... kind of a FAC role.
YES, you'd be easy meat for a wirble, but the value is there for the tankers and guys in manned guns.
Also, allow the pilot to have to .45 like the guy in the chute does, so you could DA these guys, and shoot at each other out of the window, cowboy gunfight style!
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Then what about the Fi-182 stork....
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Then what about the Fi-182 stork....
how easily could it be shot down with a .30 or .50 cal machine gun? be better off with a stinson l-1 vigilant...
why not just ask for a couple of the wwi biplanes to be enabled at the gv and ship bases? same chances of survivability...
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I've asked for this in the past, but would like to see it enabled from the large hanger on GV bases, to scout for GVs when the nest airfield is a long flight away..... kind of a FAC role.
+1 for the role. Any of the Liaison planes work work for this. And should we ever get artillery in the game...you have a spotter.
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but would like to see it enabled from the large hanger on GV bases, to scout for GVs when the nest airfield is a long flight away..... kind of a FAC role.
YES, you'd be easy meat for a wirble, but the value is there for the tankers and guys in manned guns.
Also, allow the pilot to have to .45 like the guy in the chute does, so you could DA these guys, and shoot at each other out of the window, cowboy gunfight style!
A Boomerang would do that well, not so easy meat and have a little smoke to toss out :aok ....a far better plane to get!
Or jump out of the plane and run into enemy map room?
I would agree w/a small dirt runway at GV fields w/rarmpad. I mean....These thing are in the middle of nowhere how do you get to them? Got to fly there right?
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A Boomerang would do that well, not so easy meat and have a little smoke to toss out :aok ....a far better plane to get!
Or jump out of the plane and run into enemy map room?
I would agree w/a small dirt runway at GV fields w/rarmpad. I mean....These thing are in the middle of nowhere how do you get to them? Got to fly there right?
Yes, but the Boomerang was a fighter technically, not an observation/FAC bird...
And firewall the throttle in one of these while in the big hanger on a GV base and you'd be airborn before you hit the grass:
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/261774_2223427671292_1415742882_32588236_2689696_n.jpg)
Runway? We don't need no stinking runway!
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See Rule #4
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Thanks for all the comments and suggestions I HOPE WE GET A SPYPLANE! :noid :noid
:D
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I honestly think that the only way that spyplanes could be useful is if clipboard maps would be removed, and there are secret strategic targets scattered all over the map that randomly place themselves somewhere else everytime the arena reboots that do not appear on the clipboard. I don't see that happening anytime soon. I'm just saying, but I'd love to actually see this myself :O
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What purpose would it serve?
1) we already have information about any field. Its all available on the clip-board.
2) once you're overhead, you don't need to take pictures, since you have that nice text buffer to TELL people the status of the field.
3) It would take you almost an hour to get to most enemy bases, and another hour to get back with your useless pictures, by which time all of your information could be out of date.
4) You're presence there is a clear indicator to the enemy that something is up. All I have to do is kill you, then go pork ords at your base and you can't do jack crap to attack our field for 45mins unless you have a group of people willing to resupply a base (rare).
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I honestly think that the only way that spyplanes could be useful is if clipboard maps would be removed, and there are secret strategic targets
As is CVs are kind of like that ... unless someone stumbles on them or trys to track them after they reset to their home base, you never know they're coming until they hit a base. How about the PBY Catalina? - available from ports maybe ? Not sure anyone wants to fly long range recon in the MAs but they would be HANDY in many scenarios ... and they WERE armed ... :cool:
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As is CVs are kind of like that ... unless someone stumbles on them or trys to track them after they reset to their home base, you never know they're coming until they hit a base. How about the PBY Catalina? - available from ports maybe ? Not sure anyone wants to fly long range recon in the MAs but they would be HANDY in many scenarios ... and they WERE armed ... :cool:
i bet you nobody would want to fly the catalinas either. as they would just crawl around while dozens of planes sit on the ground waiting for a spotter to find something, I dont think so. if it ever gets added it wont be used in either ma or scenarios.
semp
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That and whats the point to slow scouts? My 109 with a drop tank, throttled back to fly at the 200-something mph speeds the Catalina flew at would have have sufficent range to cross the entire map.
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That and whats the point to slow scouts? My 109 with a drop tank, throttled back to fly at the 200-something mph speeds the Catalina flew at would have have sufficent range to cross the entire map.
No argument ... The only + to it would be an aircraft that could fly from a port and that's of dubious value ... Mostly I was thinking what might be BETTER than a Champ ... (I loved champs, learned to fly in one, but I wouldn't want to face down a 109) ... :salute
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See? Theres another reason I hadn't thought off.
The 109 can quickly (instantly in the case of the 109K4) convert from a scout to a respected and deadly fighter aircraft, capable of fighting multiple oppnents simultaneously.
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See? Theres another reason I hadn't thought off.
The 109 can quickly (instantly in the case of the 109K4) convert from a scout to a respected and deadly fighter aircraft, capable of fighting multiple oppnents simultaneously.
:rofl. any fighter in the game can.
semp
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Based upon "seeing combat" in squadron strength..............and based upon this being by far the worlds most produced aircraft there should (IMO) be only one plane considered for observational duties................
The U-2 later known as the Po-2
Classed as a vehicle it could be available from GV fields
(http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/po2_andreaskauert.jpg)
and we could include the WW1 damage model
U-2LSh: Two-seat ground-attack, close-support aircraft. The aircraft were armed with one 7.62 mm (0.30 in) ShKAS machine-gun in the rear cockpit. It could also carry up to 120 kg (265 lb) of bombs and four RS-82 rockets. Also known as the U-2VOM-1.
U-2LNB: Soviet Air Force night attack version, built from 1942. Armed with one 7.62 mm (0.30 in) ShKAS, plus up to 250 kg of bombs under the wings for land support. Earlier aircraft were converted to improvised bombers from 1941
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As is CVs are kind of like that ... unless someone stumbles on them or trys to track them after they reset to their home base, you never know they're coming until they hit a base. How about the PBY Catalina? - available from ports maybe ? Not sure anyone wants to fly long range recon in the MAs but they would be HANDY in many scenarios ... and they WERE armed ... :cool:
Yessssssssssssssss! would love to see a Catalina :x
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i bet you nobody would want to fly the catalinas either. as they would just crawl around while dozens of planes sit on the ground waiting for a spotter to find something, I dont think so. if it ever gets added it wont be used in either ma or scenarios.
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Sorry you loose bet!!! I would love to fly them! And I can see an FSO scenario like Midway where the Cat's launch and the CV birds are held on deck till the Cat finds the enmy CV.
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:rofl. any fighter in the game can.
Most can, possibly all, but you get REALLY sketch with some aircraft, such as the P-40B, I16, or the 110 or mossie. But I wasn't saying that the 109 was the only fighter that can do that, only that a PBY can't fight more than 1 opponent simultaneously unless 999000 is gunning.
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-1 We already have spies for that
HAHA :cheers:
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+1 for the plne but -1 for the role
I've asked for this in the past, but would like to see it enabled from the large hanger on GV bases, to scout for GVs when the nest airfield is a long flight away..... kind of a FAC role.
YES, you'd be easy meat for a wirble, but the value is there for the tankers and guys in manned guns.
+1 for the plane and for that role.
For the doubters at that speed with good SA it could be highly survivable between a GV base and a spawn and likely even collect a few proxies.
And yes, the Aeronca is the right plane for the job but more choices would be even better.
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+1 for the plane and for that role.
For the doubters at that speed with good SA it could be highly survivable between a GV base and a spawn and likely even collect a few proxies.
And yes, the Aeronca is the right plane for the job but more choices would be even better.
i dare you to try it...up an i-16 with the weakest gun package cut the throttle back so the plane doesn't fly faster than 125mph level...see how well it works out over a gv battle. but then even the i-16 can take more machine gun damage than anything people are thinking they want for "spy" planes.
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If you really wanted a photo recon plane, you could fly a Mossie or Spitfire IX, both of which had
PR models. You could also fly an F-5 <P-38> or F-6 <P-51> as well. Since all planes are capable of
taking inflight screenshots, there ya go :banana: :airplane:
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i dare you to try it...up an i-16 with the weakest gun package cut the throttle back so the plane doesn't fly faster than 125mph level...see how well it works out over a gv battle. but then even the i-16 can take more machine gun damage than anything people are thinking they want for "spy" planes.
I've forced augers while flying a goon. I got two in one dogfight one night. An Aeronca would be easier than that.
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You could also fly an F-5 <P-38>
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Thanks for all the comments and suggestions I HOPE WE GET A SPYPLANE! :noid :noid
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Problem is it's a spotter plane, not a recce bird for taking pictures. Since we don't have artillery to spot for, it becomes kinda pointless.