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Title: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: F22RaptorDude on November 11, 2011, 07:55:48 PM
Some scientist in Texas made it using nano tube technology http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2060207/Texas-scientist-Ali-Aliev-makes-strands-real-invisibility-cloak.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2060207/Texas-scientist-Ali-Aliev-makes-strands-real-invisibility-cloak.html) I see a lot of problems with this  :noid
Title: Re: Invincibility cloak finally here?
Post by: skorpion on November 11, 2011, 07:57:50 PM
Some scientist in Texas made it using nano tube technology http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2060207/Texas-scientist-Ali-Aliev-makes-strands-real-invisibility-cloak.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2060207/Texas-scientist-Ali-Aliev-makes-strands-real-invisibility-cloak.html) I see a lot of problems with this  :noid
its invisibility-not invincibility :lol

also, i dont think this is really going to take off.
Title: Re: Invincibility cloak finally here?
Post by: F22RaptorDude on November 11, 2011, 08:01:11 PM
its invisibility-not invincibility :lol

also, i dont think this is really going to take off.
I used spell check, I knew it was wrong but I was to lazy to change it
Title: Re: Invincibility cloak finally here?
Post by: Beefcake on November 12, 2011, 10:24:07 AM
I used spell check, I knew it was wrong but I was to lazy to change it


You future leader ladies and gentlemen.
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: guncrasher on November 12, 2011, 11:57:39 AM
If you read how they made it you will realize it's gonna take a long time for it to be usable.

Semp
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: F22RaptorDude on November 12, 2011, 06:03:12 PM
If you read how they made it you will realize it's gonna take a long time for it to be usable.

Semp
Right but its progress, and they see it in use on tanks
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: allaire on November 12, 2011, 06:09:44 PM
Yeah because on the battlefield you won't hear them at all. :noid
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: Tyrannis on November 12, 2011, 06:57:34 PM
Personaly, i Think an invisibility-like cloak could be one of the worst things to happen to warfare.  :uhoh
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: MachFly on November 12, 2011, 11:43:12 PM
Personaly, i Think an invisibility-like cloak could be one of the worst things to happen to warfare.  :uhoh

Why? It's only going to make you invisible to a naked eye. It's not going to hide your infrared signature.
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: Tyrannis on November 12, 2011, 11:53:40 PM
Why? It's only going to make you invisible to a naked eye. It's not going to hide your infrared signature.
Not everyone carries infrared.

And who knows what advances Invisibility could bring down the road.

Just imagine if it got into the wrong hands.
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: MachFly on November 13, 2011, 12:03:43 AM
Not everyone carries infrared.

And who knows what advances Invisibility could bring down the road.

Just imagine if it got into the wrong hands.

Okay...what if nuclear weapons get into the wrong hands? or our current stealth technology?

If we would be thinking that way than than the most modern weapon would still be a rock.
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: Tyrannis on November 13, 2011, 12:43:56 AM
Okay...what if nuclear weapons get into the wrong hands? or our current stealth technology?

If we would be thinking that way than than the most modern weapon would still be a rock.
I remember watching a Documentary once about the f22 raptor...
It stated the raptor was the most advanced fighter jet in the world. but it had come before its time. And the U.S could not afford to mass produce them, because its so ahead of the time.
But, the U.S has to produce them now anyways. Because by introducing the F22,we've raised the bar in air supperiority, and now all other competing countries are now trying to reach that bar.
So in order to stay on top, we have to keep pouring money into the f22 program and advancing it. As expensive as it is, Otherwise we run the threat of running below our competitors.

Thats sorta how i see invisibility. I think it is way before its time. Imagine if, like the f22 raptor, the U.S Military put in production some sort of complete invisibility project.
We created the worlds most advanced Invisibility field. we're the envy of every other country.
But, much like the F22, we realize to continue to support such a program, will cost just way to much for us to handle right now. So we plan to cancel the program (or atleast put it on hold).
Just as we go to do this, another country suddenly announces their doing invisibility research, and they too are close to a breakthrough.
Now,because we introduced the technology to the world and shown it that it is possable to build, other countries are attempting it.
Meaning, if we wish to continue to stay on top, we have to pour more, and more money into the invisibility program.
To advance it above our competitors, even tho it will most likely bleed us dry.

Thats what i think about it tho, I just think invisibility is way ahead of its time, and could become a nuisense fast.
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: MachFly on November 13, 2011, 12:47:01 AM
I remember watching a Documentary once about the f22 raptor...
It stated the raptor was the most advanced fighter jet in the world. but it had come before its time. And the U.S could not afford to mass produce them, because its so ahead of the time.
But, the U.S has to produce them now anyways. Because by introducing the F22,we've raised the bar in air supperiority, and now all other competing countries are now trying to reach that bar.
So in order to stay on top, we have to keep pouring money into the f22 program and advancing it. As expensive as it is, Otherwise we run the threat of running below our competitors.

Thats sorta how i see invisibility. I think it is way before its time. Imagine if, like the f22 raptor, the U.S Military put in production some sort of complete invisibility project.
We created the worlds most advanced Invisibility field. we're the envy of every other country.
But, much like the F22, we realize to continue to support such a program, will cost just way to much for us to handle right now. So we plan to cancel the program (or atleast put it on hold).
Just as we go to do this, another country suddenly announces their doing invisibility research, and they too are close to a breakthrough.
Now,because we introduced the technology to the world and shown it that it is possable to build, other countries are attempting it.
Meaning, if we wish to continue to stay on top, we have to pour more, and more money into the invisibility program.
To advance it above our competitors, even tho it will most likely bleed us dry.

Thats what i think about it tho, I just think invisibility is way ahead of its time, and could become a nuisense fast.


And what if someone else makes it first and we'll still be years behind?
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: F22RaptorDude on November 13, 2011, 01:15:46 AM
In my opinion all these modern weapons aren't easy to conceal, a cloak like this would be disastrous, entire armies hidden from plain sight.... :uhoh
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: Tupac on November 13, 2011, 01:21:54 AM
Our snipers lethality just increased 3 fold. Now they really can be invisible, and I seriously doubt the enemy has an abundance of IR equipment to look for them.
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: guncrasher on November 13, 2011, 03:47:13 AM
Right but its progress, and they see it in use on tanks

read again to see how much energy is needed for just a few strands, for a whole tank a nuclear reactor would be needed.


semp
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: Shane on November 13, 2011, 10:32:16 AM
If we would be thinking that way than than the most modern weapon would still be a rock.

errrmmm... when you think about it... it is.   :noid
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: MaSonZ on November 13, 2011, 11:45:10 AM
read again to see how much energy is needed for just a few strands, for a whole tank a nuclear reactor would be needed.


semp
Semp, not looking to start things, but where do you see any mention of how much energy is needed to use it? I am certain a great deal is needed, but as far as the posted article is concerned I didn't see any mention of it.
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: Grape on November 13, 2011, 11:45:20 AM
I just can't see myself wearing one of these...
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: Gh0stFT on November 13, 2011, 11:57:29 AM
this is something for cheaters or campers ;)
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: Meatwad on November 13, 2011, 12:02:54 PM
If this is actually real, I would assume it would be something I would keep out of the media.
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: MaSonZ on November 13, 2011, 12:19:59 PM
If this is actually real, I would assume it would be something I would keep out of the media.

too late though if it is real. sadly. once the media gets wind of it theyre gonna blow everything out of proportion, as they always do. how many other countries  also have access to our media and will jump on the bandwagon that we dont want jumping on. pretty well just signed a contract with no money to fund it..
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: allaire on November 13, 2011, 05:19:48 PM
I just can't see myself wearing one of these...
To tell you the truth I can't see you in it either.
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: F22RaptorDude on November 13, 2011, 06:06:28 PM
To tell you the truth I can't see you in it either.
:rofl
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: Tank-Ace on November 13, 2011, 06:25:28 PM
Yeah because on the battlefield you won't hear them at all. :noid


Yeah, because everything is dead quite on a battlefield.  Cannons, artillery, machine guns, and your own tank's engines won't hide the sound of their tanks at all  :ahand.



It would have its uses (think of ambush potential), just not as many as if our tanks were silent.
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: allaire on November 13, 2011, 07:21:18 PM
Yep you really told me.  Unless the armor is right beside a gun line then artillery is not really an issue.  If you are taking incoming rounds you have more to worry about than "stealth" tanks.  And machine guns won't come close to masking the sound of the jet engine powering the tank. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: F22RaptorDude on November 13, 2011, 07:25:51 PM
Yep you really told me.  Unless the armor is right beside a gun line then artillery is not really an issue.  If you are taking incoming rounds you have more to worry about than "stealth" tanks.  And machine guns won't come close to masking the sound of the jet engine powering the tank. :rolleyes:
Hybrid tanks anyone?
Title: Re: invisibility cloak finally here?
Post by: Tank-Ace on November 13, 2011, 07:36:57 PM
No, not any one of those things will mask the sound by itself.

But if you're taking intermitent shelling, firing your own weapon, with high-caliber artillery pounding away in the background, and someone cuts loose with a machine gun 20ft away, while one of your own tanks fires its main gun, you're probably not going to notice the rumbling of a few slowly moving tanks (if you're hauling bellybutton at 60mph, the dust trail will give you away) as they creep up to the jump-off point for an attack.


And the goal probably wouldn't be to reach your objective undetected (its a 60 ton tank for gods sake), but to remain undetected untill you get close enough that they can't stop you in time, or untill you shoot first.


Like I said, there would still be many uses, just not so many as if you weren't trying to hide a big 60 ton behemoth that sounds like the trump of doom as it rattles and clanks its way forward.


Enemy tanks wouldn't see you at all (at most, they'd just notice their range finder gives a closer reading than expected if they sweep it across you). You would be near completly invisible as long as you remain still.