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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: DMVIAGRA on November 15, 2011, 05:53:41 AM
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Curtiss SB2C Helldiver
Type: two-seat carrier-based scout bomber
Crew: 2: Pilot, Gunner
Armament: two 20mm cannon in wings,
two .30 cal machine guns in rear cockpit
Specifications:
Length: 36' 8: (10.97 m)
Height: 13' 2" (4.01 m
Wignspan: 49' 9" (15.16 m)
Gross Weight: 16616 lb
Propulsion:
No. of Engines: 1
Powerplant: Wright R-2600-20
Horsepower: 1900 hp
Performance:
Range: 1165 miles (1876 km)
Cruise Speed: 158 mph (254 km/h)
Max Speed: 295 mph (475 km/h)
Ceiling: 29100 ft (8869 m)
SOURCE:
Aviation Enthusiast Corner
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Curtiss_SB2C_Helldiver_CAF.jpg)
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+1 to the ugliest plane that deserves inclusion
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no
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Which version? The -1 and -2 were basically failures, with the -3 variant having fixed most of the problems of the -1 and -2 variants.
ack-ack
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no
What?!!! teh k1ng 0f w15hl15t p05t r3qu35t5 doesn't want this plane?!!!
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Which version? The -1 and -2 were basically failures, with the -3 variant having fixed most of the problems of the -1 and -2 variants.
ack-ack
U answered your own question :banana:
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+1 to the -3 version.
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+1
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Almost forgot this,
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/curtiss-sb2c-helldiver.jpg)
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Well I suppose it's a bigger target than the Dauntless, so why not? :)
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We would more than likely get the variant that was most produced. :noid
I'd fly her anyways. :x
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Whats the GIB do? I see no tailguns :huh
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Whats the GIB do? I see no tailguns :huh
He's the tail gunner.
(http://www.kitcutters.com/Bat/BatSB2CHellDiver.jpg)
ack-ack
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Years ago I met a vet who flews these during WW2. He proudly claimed to have drobbed a bomb on a Japanese carrier. I have no reason to doubt him. I can't remember if it was the Marianas Turkey Shoot or right after Leyte. In any case, the biggest take away was how they referred to the SB2C Helldiver. They called it the Son-a-B****, 2nd Class. what a hoot!
Anyway, +1
Boo
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Saw one fly at the NAS Pensacola Airshow last week definitly not the sexiest bird.
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Saw one fly at the NAS Pensacola Airshow last week definitly not the sexiest bird.
Yeah but we have planes that are far uglier.
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Yeah but we have planes that are far uglier.
Oh no doubt but she does look pretty bulky mid-air.
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Top speed 295? Throw in dive speed with great dive brakes I bet this pic can engage at over 400 mph with little problem. I would bet that once its dropped ords and is light with those 20mms I bet this bird will give a better accounting then Cobra in his A-20. I bet it turns better then the Dora at low speeds, maybe even outturns the 51. I think history notes that the Dauntless was effective but pretty risky. This bird far more able to handle itself. By the end of the war the latewar F4U-hogs could carry as much firepower and the jabo came to the Pacific.
In any case, I think at some point this bird is added.
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its ugly! it's crappy!! and it belongs!!! i'd say :aok
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No. Not until the 26 other more important aircraft get added first.
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I'd love to see it added but I'd like to see the D4Y and B6N added first.
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I'd love to see it added but I'd like to see the D4Y and B6N added first.
No, the deck isn't stacked against the Japanese in late war setups enough yet.
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Oh no doubt but she does look pretty bulky mid-air.
C2.
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Years ago I met a vet who flews these during WW2. He proudly claimed to have drobbed a bomb on a Japanese carrier. I have no reason to doubt him. I can't remember if it was the Marianas Turkey Shoot or right after Leyte. In any case, the biggest take away was how they referred to the SB2C Helldiver. They called it the Son-a-B****, 2nd Class. what a hoot!
Anyway, +1
Boo
Nice for him, I've always wanted to meet a WWII bomber pilot. I've met figther pilots, P-51s, P-47s, P-40s. Some pilots who flew a P-51 and P-47 and swore the P-47 was the best.
How ever I can understand why I've never met so many.
You never die alone in a bomber :salute
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+ 1 million to any which version of the SB2C is added
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I'd love to see it added but I'd like to see the D4Y and B6N added first.
Same here. +2
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+1 We could use a non-perked 20mm platform that can take off from a CV. :aok
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+1 We could use a non-perked 20mm platform that can take off from a CV. :aok
A6M2
A6M3
A6M5b
Seafire Mk II
Wish granted.
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+1 We could use a non-perked 20mm platform that can take off from a CV. :aok
20mm's were only field mods.
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20mm's were only field mods.
On the Helldiver? It was the planes regular wing mounted gun package. If you're gonna just post to pad your post count, at least make your posts accurate.
ack-ack
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Ugly and blue, i like it
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Saw one fly at the NAS Pensacola Airshow last week definitly not the sexiest bird.
did it have to fly for you to realize that lol?
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No, the deck isn't stacked against the Japanese in late war setups enough yet.
Well, the Japanese faction already has two; if not three dive/torpedo bombers. The U.S. faction only has the SBD-5 and the TBM-3. Reason why I'd love to see the Helldiver being added is to go along with the Hellcat fighter. The Helldiver was also along with the Corsair, so with the Helldiver being the most recent of U.S. dive bombers; it should be added.
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+ 1 we need a replacement for the Dauntless(SBD-5 for all those noob aces high players)
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+1 :aok
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Well, the Japanese faction already has two; if not three dive/torpedo bombers. The U.S. faction only has the SBD-5 and the TBM-3. Reason why I'd love to see the Helldiver being added is to go along with the Hellcat fighter. The Helldiver was also along with the Corsair, so with the Helldiver being the most recent of U.S. dive bombers; it should be added.
And the Japanese should be stuck with the D3A1 to use against the US in scenarios. 1943 SBD-5 and 1944 SB2C against the 1937 D3A1. Sounds very fair.
That is leaving aside the fact that the US fighters all act as very good adhoc dive bombers.
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did it have to fly for you to realize that lol?
No I knew it was ugly but it looks like a school bus up in the air. :ahand
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Definately add the helldiver but a more modern japanese dive bomber would be nice after that.
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Old Thread but I want to vote for the Helldiver. :aok
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Another American bomber aircraft. That's about the last thing this game needs.
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Personally, I'd like to see the TBD Devastator before the SB2C Helldiver. Reason being, a more accurate Coral Sea/Midway Scenario. And I would fly it in the MA's in a scout role. But that's me. :)
I still say +1 for the Helldiver, but I hope it comes in a package deal. TBD Devastator, D4Y Judy, B6N Jill and the SB2C Helldiver. :D
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I'd just like to have a dive bomber that has a credible guns threat. I fly the SBD and Val, but you have to get your guns on and keep them on for a LONG time to kill an enemy aircraft. The Hispano 20mms in the Helldiver give you a chance to defend yourself.
Plus it was the most produced US dive bomber of the war.
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ok JUDY and helldiver!!!!!!!!!!
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2 forward firing 20mms? eh probley perked
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2 forward firing 20mms? eh probley perked
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc473/UnkShadow/headdesk_zps9e148e82.jpg)
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A6M2
A6M3
A6M5b
Seafire Mk II
Sea hurri
Wish granted.
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About 15-years ago I met a WW2 vet who flew the SB2C, or "Son of a B****, 2nd Class" as he called it. He claimed to have dropped a bomb on a Japanese CV towards the end of the war. It wasn't clear during what battle, etc and I never did get his name or contact info to follow-up so I'm not sure if it was real. He seemed very sincere though and knew a great deal about Naval Aviation that matched my limited knowledge base.
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About 15-years ago I met a WW2 vet who flew the SB2C, or "Son of a B****, 2nd Class" as he called it. He claimed to have dropped a bomb on a Japanese CV towards the end of the war. It wasn't clear during what battle, etc and I never did get his name or contact info to follow-up so I'm not sure if it was real. He seemed very sincere though and knew a great deal about Naval Aviation that matched my limited knowledge base.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,323690.msg4229991.html#msg4229991
hehehehe :old:
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What's the payload?
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What's the payload?
a free trip to the tower!
but yes on the helldiver... it saw lots of action...
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I think the Helldiver could be a threat, much as Cobia pisses people off in the A-20. The Helldiver would need to start high, keep its speed up then selectively chop throttle, dive brakes, etc. And it has 2x20mm for anyone who will get dumb. Terminal dive speed well above 400 knots.
Add it to the game and I bet a few turn it into a nuisance bird with teeth. I also bet it climbs to alt much quicker then a storch, TBM, SBD or Val.
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I think the Helldiver could be a threat, much as Cobia pisses people off in the A-20. The Helldiver would need to start high, keep its speed up then selectively chop throttle, dive brakes, etc. And it has 2x20mm for anyone who will get dumb. Terminal dive speed well above 400 knots.
Add it to the game and I bet a few turn it into a nuisance bird with teeth. I also bet it climbs to alt much quicker then a storch, TBM, SBD or Val.
Look up the B7A 'Grace' for another late war CV attack bird with good performance and two 20mm cannons in the wings. B7A never flew off of a carrier though, on account of the United States Navy graciously sinking all of the Imperial Japanese Navy carriers before it entered service.
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I think the Helldiver could be a threat, much as Cobia pisses people off in the A-20. The Helldiver would need to start high, keep its speed up then selectively chop throttle, dive brakes, etc. And it has 2x20mm for anyone who will get dumb. Terminal dive speed well above 400 knots.
Add it to the game and I bet a few turn it into a nuisance bird with teeth. I also bet it climbs to alt much quicker then a storch, TBM, SBD or Val.
The only time a SB2C would be a threat is if the fighter was stupid enough to go head to head with one.
ack-ack
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It saw plenty of use and should be added to the "to have" queue. But I wouldn't put it at the top.
In any case, I'd probably take the SBD over SB2C for the coolness factor alone.
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I'd love to see it added but I'd like to see the D4Y and B6N added first.
^ this! :aok