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Title: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: bustr on December 02, 2011, 02:33:48 PM
After all of these years I've just looked at the Spit14 offline in F3 mode. Were all Spit14 delivered with side view cameras? I thought the first deliverys were tactical only. Or does this mean we have a chance at the FR.MK XIVE tactical reconnaissance?

What I noticed offline:

(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/971/spit14pr.gif)

Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: Krusty on December 02, 2011, 02:58:18 PM
It's simply a fighter. What you're looking at is a custom SKIN depicting a fighter recon variant.


P.S. Here's the default:

(http://www.netaces.org/skins/spit14/default.jpg)
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: MachFly on December 02, 2011, 03:36:51 PM
Yeah it's just a skin that someone made.
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: lyric1 on December 02, 2011, 03:53:04 PM
Those were done by Jocko they are armed PR aircraft. I recently gave Greebo a photo of a RAAF spit IX armed PR plane.
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: moot on December 02, 2011, 04:23:47 PM
Skins of PR craft are allowed if craft were armed?
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: Karnak on December 02, 2011, 06:30:30 PM
That skin if of a Spitfire FR.Mk XIV.  There was no such thing as a Spitfire PR.Mk XIV.

F = Fighter
LF = Low Fighter
HF = High Fighter
PR = Photo Reconnaissance
FR = Fighter Reconnaissance
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: RTHolmes on December 02, 2011, 07:23:51 PM
FR is new to me, were they HF spec but with cameras?
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: Karnak on December 02, 2011, 07:28:29 PM
FR is new to me, were they HF spec but with cameras?
Just F spec.  There was no Spitfire HF.Mk XIV.

Spitfire F.Mk XIV
Spitfire F.Mk XIVe
Spitfire FR.Mk XIV

The FR version would have "e" wings with the two 20mm and two .50 cal loadout.
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: Krusty on December 02, 2011, 08:04:52 PM
Skins of PR craft are allowed if craft were armed?

I'm not sure if that's a rhetorical answer to the original post or a real question, so I'll just answer:

Yes, as long as it was armed recon. No unarmed recon is allowed except in the case of the mossie16 I think, which has no forward guns anyways.
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: Guppy35 on December 02, 2011, 11:07:27 PM
FR are different then PR.  FR basically is a standard fighter version adapted with a camera.  Most low back XIVs were delivered as FRXIVs.    The PR19 was basically the Photo Recon version of the XIV being unarmed and carrying more fuel.  The PRXI was the Photo Recce version of the IX, again with no guns, more fuel etc.

We have a few skins that are of FR Spits.  The Pink Spit IX is a FRIX.  There is a pink Mk I that's a gunned FR I essentially.

I'm not sure if we have  any skinned but the P51B/C and D/K were also modified to carry cameras and redesignated F6.  Again a fighter version with cameras.  The P38 on the other hand was an unarmed version so it wouldn't work to skin those on a gunned 38.
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: moot on December 02, 2011, 11:32:59 PM
Just frank question.  Thought PR skins were not allowed -didn't know or remember the pink spit was a recce bird.
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: lyric1 on December 02, 2011, 11:39:01 PM
Just frank question.  Thought PR skins were not allowed -didn't know or remember the pink spit was a recce bird.
Always find it amusing in scenarios when it involves dessert battles the pink skin shows up on Spitfires.

The assumption being that is was a dessert paint scheme.
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: Karnak on December 02, 2011, 11:53:15 PM
Just frank question.  Thought PR skins were not allowed -didn't know or remember the pink spit was a recce bird.
PR skins are not, other than the Mosquito Mk XVI as it is unarmed in all cases.

FR skins are allowed though, because they are armed.
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: Guppy35 on December 03, 2011, 12:14:43 AM
Just frank question.  Thought PR skins were not allowed -didn't know or remember the pink spit was a recce bird.

For whatever reason the 'pink' paint job was used for low level FR birds.  the high alt, unarmed ones usually went in PRU Blue.

The Pink Spits were armed fighter Spits adapted with an oblique camera.  16 Squadron FRIXs September 44
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/PinkIXs.jpg)

Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: lyric1 on December 03, 2011, 12:19:19 AM
For whatever reason the 'pink' paint job was used for low level FR birds.  the high alt, unarmed ones usually went in PRU Blue.

The Pink Spits were armed fighter Spits adapted with an oblique camera.  16 Squadron FRIXs September 44
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/PinkIXs.jpg)


Nice pic. :aok
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: moot on December 03, 2011, 12:48:47 AM
PR skins are not, other than the Mosquito Mk XVI as it is unarmed in all cases.

FR skins are allowed though, because they are armed.
Right, that's what the names FR and PR differentiate, my bad

For whatever reason the 'pink' paint job was used for low level FR birds.  the high alt, unarmed ones usually went in PRU Blue.

The Pink Spits were armed fighter Spits adapted with an oblique camera.  16 Squadron FRIXs September 44
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/PinkIXs.jpg)
Yes, now I remember regretting that the blue ones were unarmed.  Woulda made pretty good looking schemes for the game.

Always find it amusing in scenarios when it involves dessert battles the pink skin shows up on Spitfires.

The assumption being that is was a dessert paint scheme.
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/494/echinocereusengelmannii.jpg)
Echinocereus engelmannii
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: pipz on December 03, 2011, 07:27:15 AM
It has been said that pink is a very good camo color for in the desert.

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z207/Pimpzdog/sas-pink-panther.jpg)
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: Karnak on December 03, 2011, 08:51:12 AM
The human eye apparently doesn't handle pink very well, making it hard to see at distances.  It bleeds into the background colors I think.
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: MiloMorai on December 03, 2011, 08:51:29 AM
Also used on ships.

Supposedly it made making out objects close to the horizon at dawn and dusk harder, as the sky usually has a reddish colour at that time.
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: PR3D4TOR on December 03, 2011, 09:59:47 AM
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRc0xpO-VvKUboTXg1f4Mv9XE4jt9DHoQibCRkGYMnWQdKtF2d46aVYCTSR)

 :D
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: Charge on December 03, 2011, 10:01:05 AM
Pink in naval use: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountbatten_pink

-C+
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: pipz on December 03, 2011, 12:33:11 PM
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRc0xpO-VvKUboTXg1f4Mv9XE4jt9DHoQibCRkGYMnWQdKtF2d46aVYCTSR)

 :D

hehehhe What a fun old movie.  :aok
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: moot on December 03, 2011, 01:13:13 PM
a dessert paint scheme.
Echinocereus engelmannii
aka Strawberry Hedgehog Cactus
I ruined it :P
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: Midway on December 03, 2011, 01:31:21 PM
For whatever reason the 'pink' paint job was used for low level FR birds.  the high alt, unarmed ones usually went in PRU Blue.

The Pink Spits were armed fighter Spits adapted with an oblique camera.  16 Squadron FRIXs September 44
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/PinkIXs.jpg)



Wonder who is and whatever happened to the guy on the bike.  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: lyric1 on December 03, 2011, 01:54:25 PM
aka Strawberry Hedgehog Cactus
I ruined it :P
I thought you meant I was a pink flowering (it wont let me put in what I wanted it rhymes with Rick though). :D
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: moot on December 03, 2011, 03:10:59 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Aces High SpitXIV is a XIVPR ??
Post by: Greebo on December 03, 2011, 03:33:45 PM
The idea behind the pink Spitfire scheme was for low altitude reconnaissance on cloudy days near dawn or dusk. It was very hard to see this colour from the ground against clouds at these times of the day, while the cloud cover stopped it being seen from above. Also objects photographed on the ground had long shadows which made them stand out more.