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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: skorpion on December 07, 2011, 09:06:28 PM
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Well, for all of you living in Wisconsin, mainly in the southern part by Madison/Milwaukee, and on the western shores of lake Winnebago, you are sitting on a large chunk of Uranium 234 (i think thats the one we were sitting on, could be U84 or something like it). this stuff decays and turns into radon gas and eventually seeps up into your basement, known for causing lung cancer. the federal law on this is that you can have at max 4 pcI/L of it in your basement. if you have more than the legal limit, you must spend 800-1000 dollars just to get something to clean it out, or you could open a window and have it flushed out like that, but thats a big problem in the winter.
just thought i should share.
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every state has levels of radon http://www.epa.gov/radon/zonemap.html (http://www.epa.gov/radon/zonemap.html) do you have a link to show your claims? otherwise its just more senseless drivel to add to your post count
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every state has levels of radon http://www.epa.gov/radon/zonemap.html (http://www.epa.gov/radon/zonemap.html) do you have a link to show your claims? otherwise its just more senseless drivel to add to your post count
Wow you really don't like him. Remember arguing with a kid is pointless why do you lead him on?
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Wow you really don't like him. Remember arguing with a kid is pointless why do you lead him on?
nothing about liking the kid or not, if your going to post something at least have a link to back up what you posted, theres radon in every state that's why i posted the EPA's link to back up what i said.
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Well, for all of you living in Wisconsin, mainly in the southern part by Madison/Milwaukee, and on the western shores of lake Winnebago, you are sitting on a large chunk of Uranium 234 (i think thats the one we were sitting on, could be U84 or something like it). this stuff decays and turns into radon gas and eventually seeps up into your basement, known for causing lung cancer. the federal law on this is that you can have at max 4 pcI/L of it in your basement. if you have more than the legal limit, you must spend 800-1000 dollars just to get something to clean it out, or you could open a window and have it flushed out like that, but thats a big problem in the winter.
just thought i should share.
Depends on the Uranium Isotope involved, but it sounds like "The U-238 Daisy Chain" to me. U-238 (Uranium Isotope that is Naturally Occurring) decays into Th-234 (Thorium Iso) via Alpha Decay, which then Beta decays to form Pa-234(Protactinium Iso) for not even two minutes, before Beta decaying again into U-234. U-234 Alpha decays into Th-230, which then Alpha Decays into Ra-226 (Radium Iso). Ra-226 then Alpha decays into Rn-222 (Radon Iso). Rn-222's 1/2 life is less than 4 days. IIRC from College Chemistry in 1992.
I always enjoyed Chemistry. It also helped in Mineralogy, which was a PITA itself. Memorizing the Formulas for Muscovite and others, truly sucks. But alas, I can pass it on to my son.
The experiments our Govt. did with Plutonium up to the 70's had a greater impact than this. Those experiments themselves would be a thread for another day.
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every state has levels of radon http://www.epa.gov/radon/zonemap.html (http://www.epa.gov/radon/zonemap.html) do you have a link to show your claims? otherwise its just more senseless drivel to add to your post count
here you go research nazi.
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/US-radon-map1.gif)
http://www.radon.com/radon/radon_facts.html
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The thread is over now. Godwin'd in 5 posts. :rofl
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Since the 80s, I have been telling my friend to never allow guests or kids to sleep in the basement on the floor.
Some didn't listen and one who was a stoner had moved his bedroom to the basement and had a mattress on the floor. He died of cancer.
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The thread is over now. Godwin'd in 5 posts. :rofl
And by the OP himself. Priceless.
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About a year ago these people down the street had to have their 100 year old farm demolished because of this
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here you go research nazi.
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i336/igotafro/US-radon-map1.gif)
http://www.radon.com/radon/radon_facts.html
Those are only the states, what about the US territories of Guam and Puerto Rico?
About a year ago these people down the street had to have their 100 year old farm demolished because of this
Because of radon gas? :confused: Asbestos, or termites, sure... But because of radon gas?... :huh... as has been said, they could of opened a window (or added one or a vent to their basement) and been rid of the problem before lunch (if it really was a problem, of cource)... what'd they do, treat the lumber in a pressure vessel full of the stuff?
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About a year ago these people down the street had to have their 100 year old farm demolished because of this
Are you sure about that? the gas doesnt do any physical damage to the house at all, it just does some bad things to humans. If those people had their house destroyed because of this, then my god what the hell did they do?
(BTW-i have an article that says the highest amount of Radon gas found in the 4 counties tested for it in Wisconsin was 240 pcI/L, i will give a pic of it to thy research nazi if thou wishes for it to be present.)
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you must spend 800-1000 dollars just to get something to clean it out,
It can be alot more than that, just an FYI.
The system in my home cost about 2500.00
Just paid for one for one of my insureds that had a fire, it was about $4k
It mostly depends on where the system egress(s) from the home, most are foundation or thru the roof.
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It can be alot more than that, just an FYI.
The system in my home cost about 2500.00
I was talking about a very simple and basic one, nothing very fancy. just something that will get the job done if the need rises.
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I didn't know Radon was some new thing that warranted a fancy solution. There's a whole big Internet out there and you stumbled into your basement somehow?
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I didn't know Radon was some new thing that warranted a fancy solution. There's a whole big Internet out there and you stumbled into your basement somehow?
Honestly, the first thing that popped into my head, is that when I was a kid they would send us home from school with these pre-manufactured perforated tuna-can radon/carbon-monoxide gas absorbers/detectors... now, take ~30yrs of inflation into account, the shift in price of raw materials and tin... $4,000 bucks a pop huh? Knew I should of invested my milk money when I saw the chance.
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$4,000 bucks a pop huh? Knew I should of invested my milk money when I saw the chance.
:lol Agreed :aok
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A cheap $10 fan to exhaust air out of the basement/crawl space would work just as good, eh?
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Radon is an invention of the liberal media meant to harm the glow in the dark turtle industry.
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A cheap $10 fan to exhaust air out of the basement/crawl space would work just as good, eh?
you would have thought that the people that tell you to order the $1000+ things to clear out your basement woulda thought of that before hand.
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Yep but now they will make a $1000 instead of a $10 sale for something to move air
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A cheap $10 fan to exhaust air out of the basement/crawl space would work just as good, eh?
Yep, propably quite well, but the code enforcement guys wouldnt go for it, Let alone a soccer mom that afraid that her kids are gonna glow in the dark :D
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Im in the moderate risk according to the map, never tested it underneath. Should have enough airflow to keep things good anyway. If not, it would be easy to put a small blower at one of the crawl space vents
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If anything, you should be trying to get more of this wonderful substance. You never know what sort of awesome super powers you may get. it's one of the many bonuses to the wonderful mystery that is radiation.
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I may be wrong but it is my understanding that Radon wasnt as much of a problem "back in the day" And it didnt really become a larger problem until everyone started making their homes nearly air tight with energy efficient windows. and added insulation both inside the walls and under the siding to be more energy efficient.
Seems before homes used to breathe so's to speak and the radon wouldnt have as much of a chance to accumulate and would simply vent out through the walls and windows and through drawn out the furnace chimney vent
Now homes are so air tight that the radon gas has no place to go and just accumulates.
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I have gas :old:
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Since the 80s, I have been telling my friend to never allow guests or kids to sleep in the basement on the floor.
Some didn't listen and one who was a stoner had moved his bedroom to the basement and had a mattress on the floor. He died of cancer.
Drug abuse is not very healthy, that contributed to the cancer far more than radon most likely.
There are actually health spas that advertise the 'healthy effects' of radon gas in the pools :D
http://www.radonmine.com/
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I may be wrong but it is my understanding that Radon wasnt as much of a problem "back in the day" And it didnt really become a larger problem until everyone started making their homes nearly air tight with energy efficient windows. and added insulation both inside the walls and under the siding to be more energy efficient.
Seems before homes used to breathe so's to speak and the radon wouldnt have as much of a chance to accumulate and would simply vent out through the walls and windows and through drawn out the furnace chimney vent
Now homes are so air tight that the radon gas has no place to go and just accumulates.
The "tightness" of homes today is a good thing. There are no ill-effects from a "tight" home. In fact, the tighter the better, as you save so much on energy costs its amazing. Air infiltration is a serious cause of energy loss in a home. Air handling in the home is another issue. Radon accumulation is so simply remedied its almost ridiculous that its an issue.
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The "tightness" of homes today is a good thing. There are no ill-effects from a "tight" home. In fact, the tighter the better, as you save so much on energy costs its amazing. Air infiltration is a serious cause of energy loss in a home. Air handling in the home is another issue. Radon accumulation is so simply remedied its almost ridiculous that its an issue.
Im not disputing what you say. Only that as a result. Radon now accumulates as opposed to being vented out on its own
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Radon is an invention of the liberal media meant to harm the glow in the dark turtle industry.
I invented Radon in 1976 while in the bath :old:
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Im not disputing what you say. Only that as a result. Radon now accumulates as opposed to being vented out on its own
if you could open a window when a radon gas issue occurs in your house, then problem solved.