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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: AceHavok on December 15, 2011, 06:08:01 PM
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Posted a thread about this a month or two ago. Thought I'd revise the thread.
Anyways, over 4,000 B-25Js were built during the course of the war. It has a great combat record and it has a tail gunner unlike it's sister the B-25C. I really do think the B-25J will be used a lot in the Main Arenas possibly as much as the B-26. I for one would use it a lot. :)
Thanks for your consideration,
Warthog
NOTE: I am wishing for the Glass nose and the strafer version of the B-25J.
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I would love to see this, B-25C having no tail gun really doesn't interest me, and B-25H doesn't have a formation option due to the 75mm (attack version).
Surprised we didn't get the B25J.
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I love my B25C but the lack of tail guns really bites me in the butt a lot of times. :D The 25J would be tons-o-fun.
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I bet the B25J has been on the to-do list for a while though - but do we need more American bombers? :headscratch:
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I bet the B25J has been on the to-do list for a while though - but do we need more American bombers? :headscratch:
My usual answer would be "no, we do not" - but in this case, a bombsight + tail-gunner version would transform the 25 (not H) from an almost hangar queen into a much more usable medium bomber. So no objections by me ;)
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I bet the B25J has been on the to-do list for a while though - but do we need more American bombers? :headscratch:
It could possibly be added when the B-26 has a graphical update, I'm no graphics designer and I'm not sure if they could use the B-25C/H for a reference for the B-25J.
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I would LOVE to see the B25-J in game +100
(maybe add the PBJ1J as well :pray)
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I get my He-111, you get your B-25J. It's win/win! Especially for me since both are bombers. :x
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My usual answer would be "no, we do not" - but in this case, a bombsight + tail-gunner version would transform the 25 (not H) from an almost hangar queen into a much more usable medium bomber. So no objections by me ;)
:)
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I get my He-111, you get your B-25J. It's win/win! Especially for me since both are bombers. :x
Best possible scenario, and been hoping for it for a while. B-25J, Beaufighter, and He-111 in one release. However I don't think it will happen because no release will ever be as awesome.
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+1
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Yes. Pretty please yes.
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B-25J would be a good addition, in my opinion.
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+1
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I'm a fan of the B-25C. I enjoy taking it up in the MAs... it's a blast in scenarios, etc... But that -J would REALLY be a lot more survivable in the MA environs where the rear guns could give you a fighting chance. The -25C is fun but if you're caught in the LWA it's almost surely a death sentence!
While they're at it they can look into the titanium armor the plane has... Seems to take dozens of 20mm before it takes any damage. I've hit multiple 37mms into one before, as well. Even hit the engine with a 37mm (P-39) and not even an oil leak. Hosed it repeatedly with 4x20mm Fw190A8 and nothing. Check the film, see the screenshots, all the hits land. It just soaks up ammo. Unloaded 1500 7mm rounds from A6M2 into the SAME SPOT of the wing root (he was in the bomb sight) and never even damaged him. I know there's "tough" ... and I know the 7mm are "weak".... but I was holding a solid bead of hitsprites on the same spot for about a minute straight. Sheer volume of weight should have destabilized the plane from all the bullets it was carrying!
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I'm all for the B-25J
After m B-26 gets updated :noid
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I'm a fan of the B-25C. I enjoy taking it up in the MAs... it's a blast in scenarios, etc... But that -J would REALLY be a lot more survivable in the MA environs where the rear guns could give you a fighting chance. The -25C is fun but if you're caught in the LWA it's almost surely a death sentence!
While they're at it they can look into the titanium armor the plane has... Seems to take dozens of 20mm before it takes any damage. I've hit multiple 37mms into one before, as well. Even hit the engine with a 37mm (P-39) and not even an oil leak. Hosed it repeatedly with 4x20mm Fw190A8 and nothing. Check the film, see the screenshots, all the hits land. It just soaks up ammo. Unloaded 1500 7mm rounds from A6M2 into the SAME SPOT of the wing root (he was in the bomb sight) and never even damaged him. I know there's "tough" ... and I know the 7mm are "weak".... but I was holding a solid bead of hitsprites on the same spot for about a minute straight. Sheer volume of weight should have destabilized the plane from all the bullets it was carrying!
I'm a big fan of the B-25C myself. That's the main reason I want the -J added. :)
I'm not sure if there are any engine differences between the -C/-J but yes it would be a lot more survivable in the main arenas. :)
Warthog
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AFAIK, Both the -C and -J have the Wright R-2600-13 radials.
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While they're at it they can look into the titanium armor the plane has.
B-25 seems to be the toughest bullet sponge in the game, IMO.
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x2. I had a 262 on my butt in a B-25 and managed to shoot him down with my top turret before his cannons did enough damage to bring me down.
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AFAIK, Both the -C and -J have the Wright R-2600-13 radials.
The j has R2600-35
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B-25 seems to be the toughest bullet sponge in the game, IMO.
Not when I'm flying it
So what the request really is amounts to wanting tail guns and formations correct?
So how bout a Marine PBJ-1D instead? Nice single 50 in the tail.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/MarinePBJ1D.jpg)
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Not when I'm flying it
So what the request really is amounts to wanting tail guns and formations correct?
So how bout a Marine PBJ-1D instead? Nice single 50 in the tail.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/MarinePBJ1D.jpg)
Most of the RAAF added the tail & waist gun packages to their. C-D models.
As did the Dutch
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/gh.jpg)
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/18NEIsqn2.jpg)
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Not when I'm flying it
So what the request really is amounts to wanting tail guns and formations correct?
So how bout a Marine PBJ-1D instead? Nice single 50 in the tail.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/MarinePBJ1D.jpg)
It doesn't have 12 forward-firing Brownings in the solid-nose version.
:D
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The -J model also has the top turrent moved closer to the front of the plane. I have read that the crew would point the top guns forward for more firepower in strafing runs.
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The -J model also has the top turrent moved closer to the front of the plane. I have read that the crew would point the top guns forward for more firepower in strafing runs.
Folks seem to want formations though. With the strafer nose it's not much different then the B25H which has the same airframe from the front of the cockpit back.
If you want the 8 gun nose package, how bout a late in the game B25G? :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/8gunG1.jpg)
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+1 :salute
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Folks seem to want formations though. With the strafer nose it's not much different then the B25H which has the same airframe from the front of the cockpit back.
If you want the 8 gun nose package, how bout a late in the game B25G? :)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/8gunG1.jpg)
The PBJ1J has a 8 gun package plus 4 more on blisters. The PBJ1J is a Marine B-25J
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv3/1sum41/DDalliance.jpg)
(thanks Dicho again for the pics)
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All the B-25s are beautiful. :)
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Why not just call it a B-25J? Why add the PB instead of the B-25J?
Personally speaking, I'd like the glass nose version with the tail gun for level bombing. AND I'd like the solid nose strafer sans the 75mm -- I don't like the B-25H much. The gun's a little annoying and I'd rather have the proper shape/curve of the nose instead of that blunt variant on the -H.
If I roll in formations I always want the tail gun and the glass nose, but if I lift solor I'll take the strafer. The -J could also carry HVAR 5" rockets, right? It would make a nice town attacker.
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Krusty, you need to lighten up and roll with it sometimes :)
I just posted the pics cause they are interesting to me and since we were talking B-25s it seemed like a good place to run with em.
I get it. Folks want tail guns and formations.
My 25 of choice will always be the 25C Strafer so it really doesn't matter to me :)
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Perhaps so, and if my tone suggested that, then I'm sorry. It was meant as an honest response.
To my thinking at the time of previous post: B-25J fits the bill! So, why sub in the PB?
If it was just to share some cool pics and bring out the other variant to the front of everybody's mind, then it's all cool. :aok
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Perhaps so, and if my tone suggested that, then I'm sorry. It was meant as an honest response.
To my thinking at the time of previous post: B-25J fits the bill! So, why sub in the PB?
If it was just to share some cool pics and bring out the other variant to the front of everybody's mind, then it's all cool. :aok
The Navy Marine version of the J model will still be a PBJ-1J. Same thing.
I just liked the photo of the Marine PBJ-1D with the tail gun set up. One of the interesting things with 25 history is all the mods done. The G model photo I posted with the 8 gun nose was a Depot mod done in Hawaii. Low time G models got updated with waist guns, rocket rails, an 8 gun nose package and the tail turret. Not a lot were done, but they were the first 25s over Japan since the Doolittle raid.
They also modified some low time glass nose D models the same way outside of the 8 gun nose. The majority of Navy/Marine PBJ-1Ds had the single tail gun also along with package guns under the cockpit.
Just a fun bird to try and figure out all the variants.
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The PBJ1-J has twin .50 cals at the tail. :aok
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The -J could also carry HVAR 5" rockets, right? It would make a nice town attacker.
So could the B-25H. 14 of them to be exact, 7 on each wing.
ack-ack
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The PBJ1-J has twin .50 cals at the tail. :aok
LOL not sure what the deal is with all this tail gun talk. I like to shoot the guns pointed forward myself :)
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LOL not sure what the deal is with all this tail gun talk. I like to shoot the guns pointed forward myself :)
I'm just tellin krusty that the pbj1j has a tail gun. And in formation it would be something that I would not want to run into :salute
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PB in all WWII navy designations means partrol bomber. Thats why there is the PBY, the PB4-Y2 and the PBM.
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i always thought PB meant peanut butter
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i always thought PB meant peanut butter
:lol
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i always thought PB meant peanut butter
Ironic, me too.
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i always thought PB meant peanut butter
Wait, it doesn't??
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Bump... i really want this plane in game :joystick: :salute
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I bet the B25J has been on the to-do list for a while though - but do we need more American bombers? :headscratch:
The idea is not what we need more or less of but it's that we need more of everything. That's one of the draws to the game is that you can fly every plane and drive every vehicle.
+1 to add B-25J
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Bump... i really want this plane in game :joystick: :salute
got on the acehavok B25 bandwagon also i see? :rofl
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I love B 25s. :aok
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I would love to see the B-25J make it to AH, that way I could pester someone to skin my uncle's plane.
(http://57thbombwing.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=45363&g2_serialNumber=3)
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I would love to see the B-25J make it to AH, that way I could pester someone to skin my uncle's plane.
(http://57thbombwing.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=45363&g2_serialNumber=3)
And in typical Headhunter fashion you could then replicate the crash :)
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Actually, my first thought was, "Hey, look, Guppy's been flying one!"
So you're the beta tester and HTC has already added it, right? Right?
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bump. we need this
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/392202_10150534436008666_13883518665_8813082_426570840_n.jpg)
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With the B-25J, we could then lobby for glide torpedoes as a possible perk ordnance.
ack-ack
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With the B-25J, we could then lobby for glide torpedoes as a possible perk ordnance.
ack-ack
And rockets :aok
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And rockets :aok
Don't need the J for rockets. The H model was able to carry 14, 7 under each wing.
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Don't need the J for rockets. The H model was able to carry 14, 7 under each wing.
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Would like to see the info on H models with this configuration. I am aware of war trials with the internal launching system in the CBI with the H model,very little information about that. I know the J models used this set up a lot & I have many photos of those. I also have hundreds of photos of H models yet none have wing mounted rockets.
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With the B-25J, we could then lobby for glide torpedoes as a possible perk ordnance.
ack-ack
What exactly did 'Glide Torpedoes' do? Where they different from other torpedoes?
Warthog
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Posted a thread about this a month or two ago. Thought I'd revise the thread.
Anyways, over 4,000 B-25Js were built during the course of the war. It has a great combat record and it has a tail gunner unlike it's sister the B-25C. I really do think the B-25J will be used a lot in the Main Arenas possibly as much as the B-26. I for one would use it a lot. :)
Thanks for your consideration,
Warthog
NOTE: I am wishing for the Glass nose and the strafer version of the B-25J.
+1 for flying Peanut Butter Jelly sandwitches! (The Navy (PBJs) and Marines put some use into them too.)
Edit: :banana: :banana:
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I don't see why not...
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The PBJ1J has a 8 gun package plus 4 more on blisters. The PBJ1J is a Marine B-25J
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv3/1sum41/DDalliance.jpg)
(thanks Dicho again for the pics)
+1 +2 for marine b-25
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The idea is not what we need more or less of but it's that we need more of everything. That's one of the draws to the game is that you can fly every plane and drive every vehicle.
+1 to add B-25J
Well, if that's the case, economy dictates just one wishlist thread. 'ATTN HTC - more of everything! Please!'
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For the B-25J it's a no-brainer... It's like having a P-51B but no P-51D. It shares most of the shape (the 3D graphics) and most of the performance, but has different weapons options.
As far as new additions go, this would be a fraction of the work of a new one, methinks. All the textures are laid out, most of the shapes (you can stick the B-25H fuselage on there and add the nose from the B-25C).
If you're worried about what else they could be working on, Arlo, this particular request is one of the easier things to do.
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For the B-25J it's a no-brainer... It's like having a P-51B but no P-51D. It shares most of the shape (the 3D graphics) and most of the performance, but has different weapons options.
As far as new additions go, this would be a fraction of the work of a new one, methinks. All the textures are laid out, most of the shapes (you can stick the B-25H fuselage on there and add the nose from the B-25C).
If you're worried about what else they could be working on, Arlo, this particular request is one of the easier things to do.
But ... but .... we need more of everything ... I was told. Practical requests being ... well .... more practical. One more model of B-25, yeah, easier than modeling a whole new P-61. :D
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duplicate post
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+1 for flying Peanut Butter Jelly sandwitches! (The Navy (PBJs) and Marines put some use into them too.)
Edit: :banana: :banana:
You mean you're wishing for .....
(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/pbjc.png)
(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/pbjh.png)
? Um ....
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What exactly did 'Glide Torpedoes' do? Where they different from other torpedoes?
Warthog
This is the GT-1 Glide Torpedo that was operationally combat tested in the last couple of weeks of the war in the Pacific.
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p162/APFSDS/7ad1_1.jpg)
After the torpedo attacks by B-26s in Midway and Alaska, the USAAF came to the conclusion that using medium level bombers as torpedo attack planes left them too vulnerable on their attack runs by ship AAA and fighters and was considered to be a waste of valuable resources, so the practice stopped. After this, no more B-26 crews or other medium bomber crews were trained how to drop torpedoes.
By developing a glide torpedo, it would allow bomber crews to drop the torpedo outside of effective range of ship AAA guns. The bomber would drop the glide torpedo at 10,000ft and glide towards the target. Once the glide torpedo would hit the water, explosive bolts would blow off the paravane and the torpedo would then execute a pre-programmed search pattern to locate and strike the target. Because it was used during the last couple of weeks of the war, it was not possible to determine its effectiveness as the USAAF never saw the results of their attacks.
B-25J with a GT-1 glide torpedo.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/GT-1_on_B-25J.png)
ack-ack
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You mean you're wishing for .....
(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/pbjc.png)
(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa433/arloguh03/pbjh.png)
? Um ....
Those are relatively recently included skins, however it's only a B-25C (of which Navy/Marines recieived 50) and not (i think better for AH and the MAs) a more common B-25D (152 delivered ). Also more common than the Cs were the PBJ-1J (B25J), and well, *cough* thread title.