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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ozrocker on December 16, 2011, 01:24:14 PM
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For all the Ranger fans over the years.
Heard on Radio today all Ranger production shuts down for good.
:cheers: Oz
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For all the Ranger fans over the years.
Heard on Radio today all Ranger production shuts down for good.
:cheers: Oz
Will it be blamed on low tire pressure??? OHHhhhhhh nevermind. :neener:
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:rofl
darn, shuff you beat me to it.
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Those explorers were rolling over due to low tire pressure. Some fool writing the manual said that for a better ride you could deflate the tires to 20psi. Tires started blowing out and since Idiots love SUVs more than any other demographic, lots of them rolled over when they eventually had a blowout.
Ford and Firestone pointed fingers at each other over who was responsible for the low pressure suggestion.
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Those explorers were rolling over due to low tire pressure. Some fool writing the manual said that for a better ride you could deflate the tires to 20psi. Tires started blowing out and since Idiots love SUVs more than any other demographic, lots of them rolled over when they eventually had a blowout.
Ford and Firestone pointed fingers at each other over who was responsible for the low pressure suggestion.
bolded....i think that's still in the courts now.
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Those explorers were rolling over due to low tire pressure. Some fool writing the manual said that for a better ride you could deflate the tires to 20psi. Tires started blowing out and since Idiots love SUVs more than any other demographic, lots of them rolled over when they eventually had a blowout.
Ford and Firestone pointed fingers at each other over who was responsible for the low pressure suggestion.
Yes blowouts did not help their inherit imbalance that was built into the vehicle.
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Yes blowouts did not help their inherit imbalance that was built into the vehicle.
I don't know of any vans or suvs that aren't more prone to rollover than a comparable car, not counting vehicles designed to be harder to roll over.
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I don't know of any vans or suvs that aren't more prone to rollover than a comparable car, not counting vehicles designed to be harder to roll over.
Compare them to eachother.
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I don't know of any vans or suvs that aren't more prone to rollover than a comparable car, not counting vehicles designed to be harder to roll over.
ford 15 passenger vans are very prone to rolling over. especially if not loaded properly. the cg is at the top of the steering wheel when these are fully loaded. i would imagine that the chevys are about the same.
suv's are mostly built on truck chassis, and the way they're built will raise the cg, thus making them more prone to rollovers.
in the case of the early explorers though, that was all on ford.........
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ford 15 passenger vans are very prone to rolling over. especially if not loaded properly. the cg is at the top of the steering wheel when these are fully loaded. i would imagine that the chevys are about the same.
suv's are mostly built on truck chassis, and the way they're built will raise the cg, thus making them more prone to rollovers.
in the case of the early explorers though, that was all on ford.........
15 passenger vans got redesigned a few years back. The ones still in production have a longer wheelbase now for safety. I've driven a few of the old style short wheelbase ones loaded to the gills and they were all deathtraps. Especially at the end of winter warmish/sunny day with the 20 foot slab of ice that's been accumulating on top of the thing comes flying off at a stoplight.
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15 passenger vans got redesigned a few years back. The ones still in production have a longer wheelbase now for safety. I've driven a few of the old style short wheelbase ones loaded to the gills and they were all deathtraps. Especially at the end of winter warmish/sunny day with the 20 foot slab of ice that's been accumulating on top of the thing comes flying off at a stoplight.
it wasn't the short wheelbase vans. it was the long wheelbase. the short vans were 12pax, the extended ones were the 15pax.
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The old 15 passenger vans were the same chassis as the 12, the extra row of seating was just added onto the rear.
Here is the old style
(http://www.vansconversions.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Van-15-Passenger.jpg)
And this is the new
(http://www.gmc-van.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Gmc-15-Passenger-Van.jpg)
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I could be mistaken but...isn't that a chevy at the bottom and a ford at the top?!
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The old 15 passenger vans were the same chassis as the 12, the extra row of seating was just added onto the rear.
Here is the old style
(http://www.vansconversions.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Van-15-Passenger.jpg)
And this is the new
(http://www.gmc-van.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Gmc-15-Passenger-Van.jpg)
the bottom pic is a chevy. :neener:
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Yes, Chevy, Ford and Dodge all offered 15 passenger versions of their regular vans. All had the same wheelbase as their regular vans until the NTSB mandated that they were all too dangerous (these vans were purchased by lots of daycare schools).
And here is a Dodge
(http://images01.olx.com/ui/1/92/94/13368894_6.jpg)
I believe GM is the only company still making them since the mandate. I've driven a few Ford 15 passenger vans on 1000+ mile trips to the rockies in the winter, I've also had one issued to me for work and they were most certainly deathtraps.
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Yes, Chevy, Ford and Dodge all offered 15 passenger versions of their regular vans. All had the same wheelbase as their regular vans until the NTSB mandated that they were all too dangerous (these vans were purchased by lots of daycare schools).
And here is a Dodge
(http://images01.olx.com/ui/1/92/94/13368894_6.jpg)
we have ford extended and non-extended vans in our fleet. i'm pretty sure that their wheelbases are different. i'll have to wait till i get to mcguire to check them....... we have a my range of 98 to 2011 in the fleet. the 2010, and the 2011's are 12pax.
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Ant word as to why Ford is stopping production? Perhaps they are making a "light" F150? Bringing back the old F-100 idea?
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Ant word as to why Ford is stopping production? Perhaps they are making a "light" F150? Bringing back the old F-100 idea?
What do you mean by "light" F150?
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What do you mean by "light" F150?
Use the same frame but use a smaller engine, lighter suspension, and maybe short box only?
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Use the same frame but use a smaller engine, lighter suspension, and maybe short box only?
Bit like my dads, Its not as big as the newer F150's and for that I love it
(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h375/F35_LightningBravo/324683_228363410552585_100001367835388_585273_1301128969_o.jpg)2001, still in perfect condition, never been in the shop
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i for one loved my ranger. thinking bout getting another once im back in the states.
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i for one loved my ranger. thinking bout getting another once im back in the states.
rangers actually became pretty nice trucks. i think there's just no market for a truck that small anymore.
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Ford said it was because there was because the F150 is getting mileage close to the ranger's with that ecoboost engine they're now offering.
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the ranger will live on everywhere but the US and Canada. The current version is coming from Fords Austrailia design house (IIRC).
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the ranger will live on everywhere but the US and Canada. The current version is coming from Fords Austrailia design house (IIRC).
sheesh!! ford too?
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sheesh!! ford too?
Ford does a prety good job of combining all of their resources to minimize variation between markets. It's not like they are taking a car from a different company and passing it off as a marquis name...
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Ford, Dodge and Chevy all offered 12/15 passenger vans until the mid 2000's. At that time all three stopped offereing them for sale due to safety concerns.
Chevy now only offers an 8 passenger van (about the size of the old 12 passenger), however the same van has a lengthened version for the cargo series which features a streched wheel base.
Sometime around 2008/2009, Ford re-introduced the 15 passenger van once again. However the wheel base is only 6in longer than what the 12 passenger van is. In most cases, in reality, these vans are only 11 or 14 passenger vans due to having front bucket seats up front. I have yet to ever ride in a true 15 passenger van.
Dodge no longer even offers a commercial van.
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All of those white 15 passanger vans gave me an idea...
I'll make a twitter account called "creepy white van" and follow everyone.
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Guess I will keep my Ranger anyway .
(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y313/LittleGeorgeJr/S20109087016.jpg)
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For all the Ranger fans over the years.
Heard on Radio today all Ranger production shuts down for good.
:cheers: Oz
Probably died of old age.... Needed an genuine update for the last 10 years.
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Yea Ford didn't do much with the ranger chassis for a long time, my old 97 explorer sport's dash is the same as my wifes 01 Ranger XLT. I for one will miss them, had many in my years and always had good luck with them. 87 Ranger 4x4 STX with highrider package, 87 Bronco2 4x4, 97 Explorer Sport 4x4, and my wifes current 01 Ranger 4x4 xlt 4x4 offroad package. All were excellent trucks for me, especially the 87 Ranger, that one survived my teen years and many nitrous experiments and basically taught me to like working on cars.
It makes me sad, but the writing was on the wall :salute
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BigRat
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I have an 01 ranger. Would of never thought Ford to shut the line down :(