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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Raptor05121 on December 22, 2011, 09:51:29 PM
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I decided to take her up for a spin today. What an awesome E fighter. I got four kills in it for a total of 10.25 perkies. She loves to dive but is slow to climb back up. Anyone else love this amazing bird (Karnak where are you?). I'd love to get some more tips.
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Yes, the Mossie is a great E fighter. I tend to use a lot of yoyos to assist in turning inside things like Spitfires. With 50% fuel and no ordnance the climb rate isn't bad at a tad over 3500ft/min, but nothing to get overly excited about either. The WEP is a critical tool, without it performance drops off sharply. To extend the time with WEP I usually use MIL going downhill and WEP going uphill when in combat, unless I need to build more E in which case I'll just leave it on.
109s and Ki-84s are the fighters that I feel like I have the most difficulty with.
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Hm. My first outing was with 50% and after 7-8 mins of playing around I was bingo fuel. I guess I'll have to cut back my climbing a bit. (I was at 10K)
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I usually climb to 10-13k. 50% should give you more than 30 minutes of time.
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Warhed is an animal in this thing too. I had a couple turnfights against him, and was impressed. I bet the mossie is able to outturn/scissor most of the BnZ fighters. Also, as yuo mentioned, can build up perks like crazy.
:aok
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The mossies can hold their own against most planes, so long as you have a bit of energy to play with.
The 418 mossies did very well in the 2nd last Enemy Coast Ahead.
Pilots: 5
Kills: 14
Assists: 4
Deaths: 3
Landed: 24
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The Mossie is very capable and one of my favorites!
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I captured this pics in August this year at Air Show here in town. This aviation group is rebuilding the Mosquito after original prints,i don't know if is going to be flyable,but the wooden structure is impressive and solid;fast tough bird for this materials.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7151/6564409195_127b50379e_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/44265847@N06/6564409195/)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7168/6564409385_a96a13eb1c_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/44265847@N06/6564409195/)
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/44265847@N06/6564409385/)
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Great pics, thanks!
I think Glynn Powell is doing a wing for them.
Best AH Mossie guy I ever saw was thrila. Turning inside Spits and roping Tiffies were "two of his fa-vour-ite things." Anything inside 1 k from 10 o'clock to 2 o'clock was a sure goner, I swear he could just think them dead.
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Actually, I found the Mossi Mk VI to be an awesome boom-n-zoom dive bomber. I dont use it for any air to air ventures if I dont have to, not that it cant I jsut have not spent the time in that role that I need to, I guess. but in the ground pounder role, it is hard to beat. Yes, the 110G-2 can carry more ord and has more cannon firepower, but the 110 cant dance like the Mossi. :aok
The thing about the Mossi is that the combat trim will mess you up once you reach 400 TAS. I kick it off above 350 when moving in for the attack. With WEP on, it can grab altitude MUCH faster than most people think, it climbs very well in fact and it holds its E very well also.
Remember, the British 60 lb rockets do 187 lbs of damage, so when you are going to up a Mossi and dump all your ord in one spot (hanger, shore battery, etc), those 8/60lb rockets do almost 1500 lbs of damage vs the pair of 500 lb bombs doing a hair more than 1000 lbs. Food for thought. ;)
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Had a former squadie ( NC ) that was a killer in the mossie, I watched him fight 2 spit 16s for 10mins and he waxed them both :aok
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Great pics, thanks!
I think Glynn Powell is doing a wing for them.
Best AH Mossie guy I ever saw was thrila. Turning inside Spits and roping Tiffies were "two of his fa-vour-ite things." Anything inside 1 k from 10 o'clock to 2 o'clock was a sure goner, I swear he could just think them dead.
I trust you are watching the Avspecs Ltd. folks restoration of Jerry Yagen's Mossie close?
http://www.network54.com/Forum/47751/message/1324457498/Avspecs+Mosquito+out+for+a+wash
(http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1324457406.JPG)
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ohhhh yesssss
One day when I have a real job and some money I'm going to go out there and worship. :rock
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I love the mossie, she is my fav plane in AH. I also happen to live in the town where they built here in the war.
Here is a video I made way back in 2007 back when she had a much more interesting flight model..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTOsHZo0Uxw
and this one with real sounds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDYAtdB6eHQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
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I'd love to get some more tips.
Here's a couple more that'll make a nice difference in the way the Mossie handles:
First is to burn the LO and RO tanks first (Shift F to cycle to the various tanks).
This'll increase the roll rate a bit.
Also, with over 3000 rounds of .303 to augment the 700 rounds of 20mm Hispano,
you're pretty nose heavy. Dump all or most of the .303s and you can save about
300 pounds in the snout.
Good hunting, Oddball
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Remember, the British 60 lb rockets do 187 lbs of damage, so when you are going to up a Mossi and dump all your ord in one spot (hanger, shore battery, etc), those 8/60lb rockets do almost 1500 lbs of damage vs the pair of 500 lb bombs doing a hair more than 1000 lbs. Food for thought. ;)
The problem I have with the rockets is that the rails cost you 12mph off your top speed even after the rockets have been launched. The shackles for the 500lb bombs under each wing cost 4mph. The ones in the bomb bay cost nothing in speed, which is nice.
I trust you are watching the Avspecs Ltd. folks restoration of Jerry Yagen's Mossie close?
http://www.network54.com/Forum/47751/message/1324457498/Avspecs+Mosquito+out+for+a+wash
(http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1324457406.JPG)
I can't wait to see that Mossie in the air.
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Here's a couple more that'll make a nice difference in the way the Mossie handles:
First is to burn the LO and RO tanks first (Shift F to cycle to the various tanks).
This'll increase the roll rate a bit.
Also, with over 3000 rounds of .303 to augment the 700 rounds of 20mm Hispano,
you're pretty nose heavy. Dump all or most of the .303s and you can save about
300 pounds in the snout.
Good hunting, Oddball
Thanks for the tip!
As for the guns, would it be best to take the heavy gun package and dump the 303s so you can have max cannon or no?
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Its a 18,000lb fighter, I really don't think the ammo weight makes that much difference. I always take the overload ammo and I very rarely burn off the .303 ammo.
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Its a 18,000lb fighter, I really don't think the ammo weight makes that much difference. I always take the overload ammo and I very rarely burn off the .303 ammo.
This.
Also, when entering a combat zone I like to raise my seat all the way up. This gives me an excellent view over the nose and helps to build up initial SA.
Once I figure out what I'm going to do, I drop back behind the gun sight and get busy.
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With all due respect to those who empty the .30 cals ammo from the nose guns of a Mossi or the rear guns of a 110 or A20 (.50 cals on a20), if you kool-aid drinkers ***REALLY*** think that helps you survive then keep on doing it. :rofl The fact of the matter is that if you guys think that wee less extra bit of weight is what keeps you alive you should not have been in that situation to begin with. Plus, I cant remember the number of times I'd get an enemy fighter right up on my six and I give them a face full of rear gun from the 110 or A20. Also, FWIW, the front .30 cals on the Mossi have mopped up a few buildings for a white flag or finished off a few aircraft after the quad 20mm's are gone, so dont ever discount them. ;)
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I've shot several fighters down with just the .303s, including a Bf110G-2 that I took the wing off of.
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200lbs of ammo weight makes a difference. Yes, it is small, but it is a difference. Or would you say strapping 2x100lbs bombs to the plane also makes no difference?
I'm not arguing that it makes a big difference, but it does make a slight difference and occasionaly that can be the difference between living or dying.
Sometimes I dump half my 303s, but this is mostly so that they run out at the same time as the 20s and I am not tempted to stick around and get killed.
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Please send up more mossies
They are a good fight for the 110g.
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200lbs of ammo weight makes a difference. Yes, it is small, but it is a difference. Or would you say strapping 2x100lbs bombs to the plane also makes no difference?
I'm not arguing that it makes a big difference, but it does make a slight difference and occasionaly that can be the difference between living or dying.
Sometimes I dump half my 303s, but this is mostly so that they run out at the same time as the 20s and I am not tempted to stick around and get killed.
Like I was saying, if that wee bit less weight is what you need to survive, then you should not have been in that predicament to begin with. :aok Granted, I agree that the Mossi has far too much .30 cal ammo and that it ultimately does not need them, but the RAF put them there for a reason (not necessarily a sane reason, but none the less...).
Also, strapping 2X100 lbs bombs on the plane is not to be discounted either. I've taken out a lot of auto ack, turreted a lot of FLAK's, and even a tank or 2 over the years with them. As far as their weight goes, it isnt something you're going to keep in the wing during a legit dogfight, but otherwise I'm not going to notice they are there. The F4F doesn't move all that well to begin with. The A5m2 cant even tell they are there. ;)
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I've shot several fighters down with just the .303s, including a Bf110G-2 that I took the wing off of.
Most that believe dumping the .303s makes a huge difference, problem is you actually have to need ACM to make the difference count.
I really wish (and it was requested many years ago) for an ammo slider so you can decide if you want 100% of ammo or 0% - I would certainly
load 100% in 20s and maybe 50% in the 303s.
And I agree, last sortie I flew in a mossy I ended up with 4 kills all were 303s when I strafed down all my 20s on a town.
It does take precision aim and most don't have that level of skill, hence why most want that 1 shot 30mm power. What most people simply do is realize "it won't down a plane" well the key is not to bring the entire plane down in 1 pass, but if you use 303s to blow a rudder or flap off, it makes it that much harder to avoid a mossy, and this is what I generally try to do on a snapshot.
If I could have one prototype in game, I'd love to see the 4x 303s replaced with 4x browning 50s in a mossy. (This prototype was just an idea and never actually created however).