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Title: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: caldera on December 24, 2011, 12:18:49 PM
Something very strange is going on here...

Upped a 163 to intercept HQ attack and con turns out to be a P-38J.  :rolleyes:  So it's a griefer of another sort - someone out to waste your time.  I decide to chase him anyway and at 700 yards, he vanishes.  No kill, no nothing. 

After reviewing the film, it can be clearly seen that this plane is changing altitude; climbing up until I start closing and then descending.  And then the expertly timed magic "poof".  Convenient.

My questions start with why wasn't I awarded a kill?  Secondly, there is no info available for this player on the score or stat pages.  How can that be if he took at least one sortie?  A Scooby Snack for whomever can solve this mystery.


Here is the uncut film:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?c9pwkfqscuui9x2

FF to about 10:45 to cut to the chase.
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: The Fugitive on December 24, 2011, 12:40:48 PM
IT"S A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE !!  :devil
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: Traveler on December 25, 2011, 10:45:38 AM
There is a vMAVERICK, not sure if it's related. 
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: Tank-Ace on December 26, 2011, 11:26:47 PM
Caldera, I ran into this guy a while back. I'm not sure WHAT hes doing or why he doesn't show up in the score pages (I also noted that).

About 6 months ago (I think), me and a couple of other guys noticed a darbar upping from WAY back behind the lines, suggestive of a high-alt B-29 raid. We upped to intercept and after locating him about 35 miles beyond the map borders we caught upto him, and saw he was in B-17's.

We all made repeated passes at him. After I emptied my guns, all the bullets that EVERYONE fired magicly passing through him, I decided to ram him... I just passed right through him, like you do with a friendly.


There was another incident, a year and half ago, of the same guy bombing a vbase I had just helped capture, and destroyed all our hangers..... he had a firendly icon.

Only other time I encountered him was when I was chugging along in my Panzer IV, saw his jeep driving along at a blistering 7ish mph, and hit him multiple times (both HE and AP. Hell, I even lobbed a smoke round at him too) with no kill.



I reported all incidents to HTC, but got nothing back from them. Best I can tell, Dale enjoys f****** with us.
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: Butcher on December 27, 2011, 12:36:18 AM
He disconnected from the server, most likely lost internet connection or internet was surging. It happens, you might / might not get awarded a kill.

Simple as that.
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: waystin2 on December 27, 2011, 09:43:24 AM

We all made repeated passes at him. After I emptied my guns, all the bullets that EVERYONE fired magicly passing through him, I decided to ram him... I just passed right through him, like you do with a friendly.



The passing through of bullets/no collisions occurs when you are off the map.  I have seen strat raiders climb off the map to get to high alt then not turn into target until it is clear to do so.
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: Daubie on December 31, 2011, 09:19:45 PM
Something very strange is going on here...

Upped a 163 to intercept HQ attack and con turns out to be a P-38J.  :rolleyes:  So it's a griefer of another sort - someone out to waste your time.  I decide to chase him anyway and at 700 yards, he vanishes.  No kill, no nothing. 

After reviewing the film, it can be clearly seen that this plane is changing altitude; climbing up until I start closing and then descending.  And then the expertly timed magic "poof".  Convenient.

My questions start with why wasn't I awarded a kill?  Secondly, there is no info available for this player on the score or stat pages.  How can that be if he took at least one sortie?  A Scooby Snack for whomever can solve this mystery.


Here is the uncut film:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?c9pwkfqscuui9x2

FF to about 10:45 to cut to the chase.

More than likely he discoed accidently or deliberately using a kill switch.

This game deals with psychology of thinking human beings.  There is always the unexpected move.
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: MajWoody on January 06, 2012, 06:54:24 PM
Alt F4
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: caldera on January 06, 2012, 07:13:35 PM
From the pilot statistics page:

(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/maverick-1.jpg)

From the pilot score page:

(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/maverick-3.jpg)

From the plane statistics page - checked out the P-38J section and there he is:

(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/maverick-2.jpg)



Double-Secret HTC spy?  :noid 
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 06, 2012, 07:46:40 PM
Alt F4

If the other guy Alt+F4 out of the game and you were as close as caldera was then a proxy kill would have been awarded.  If the player discoed then no credit would be awarded.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 06, 2012, 07:53:54 PM

My questions start with why wasn't I awarded a kill?  Secondly, there is no info available for this player on the score or stat pages.  How can that be if he took at least one sortie?  A Scooby Snack for whomever can solve this mystery.



It's been already explained the most likely cause why you weren't awarded the kill.  To solve the second mystery, you spelled "MAVERlCK" incorrectly and that's why you didn't find any of his stats.  There isn't an "I" in his name, it's a lower-case "L" instead of an "I".

Mystery solved, where is my Scooby snack?

ack-ack
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: caldera on January 06, 2012, 09:49:08 PM
Excellent work sir!  For that, you get a whole box.  Due to certain monetary exigencies however, they will have to be sent C.O.D.   :D

Double or nothing if you can figure out why on Earth he spells it that way.  Maybe to ward off angry PMs?
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 06, 2012, 10:55:02 PM


Double or nothing if you can figure out why on Earth he spells it that way.  Maybe to ward off angry PMs?

Or people trying to track his stats?  :noid

ack-ack
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: Tank-Ace on January 07, 2012, 12:35:40 AM
why would anyone care about stats? Quite frankly, scores and stats don't show anything. They can easily be manipulated.
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 07, 2012, 01:08:48 AM
why would anyone care about stats? Quite frankly, scores and stats don't show anything. They can easily be manipulated.

This thread has nothing to do with playing for score or stats for that matter.  He was curious about a player is all.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: Tank-Ace on January 07, 2012, 02:54:14 AM
Or people trying to track his stats?  :noid

ack-ack


why would anyone care about stats? Quite frankly, scores and stats don't show anything. They can easily be manipulated.
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: Ack-Ack on January 07, 2012, 04:59:40 AM
You must live a very sad and poor life without having a sense of humor.  I was playing off caldera's comment of the guy spelling his name that way so people won't bother send him PMs, not being literal about someone tracking his stats which is why I put in that little paranoid emote.

You're dismissed.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: Daubie on January 07, 2012, 06:16:45 AM
From the pilot statistics page:

(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/maverick-1.jpg)

From the pilot score page:

(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/maverick-3.jpg)

From the plane statistics page - checked out the P-38J section and there he is:

(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/maverick-2.jpg)



Double-Secret HTC spy?  :noid 

People do have multiple accounts in the game.  The 12 hour side switching delay may have lessened this implied practice in Late War, but what to do if a guy has 3 separate accounts?  The stat pages can be useful.  But this thread?  This guy is most likely cool, but not very sporting.

Yeah, score doesn't matter unless you are one of the guys that just out of coincidence keep their scores in the single digits and usually frequent the honor roll every month on the Aces High title page.
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: The Fugitive on January 07, 2012, 08:20:06 AM
.... or it could be something much more sinister!
 Maybe, just maybe he thought the name "Maverick" (from the movie top gun) was a cool name to go by in a flight sim type game (see the connection, movie about a fighter pilot and this game you play AS a fighter pilot) but the name was TAKEN! So being "creative" figured out a way to spell it so it looked the same, but wasn't.

How dare he !!

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: caldera on January 07, 2012, 10:48:48 AM
(http://i343.photobucket.com/albums/o460/caldera_08/Coming-to-America-em13.jpg)

"AH-HAH!"





I originally checked his score to see if he got any discos. 
When it didn't show up, I feared that it was proof of a commie conspiracy to sap and impurify all our precious bodily fluids.  :noid
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: Tank-Ace on January 07, 2012, 01:42:14 PM
You must live a very sad and poor life without having a sense of humor.  I was playing off caldera's comment of the guy spelling his name that way so people won't bother send him PMs, not being literal about someone tracking his stats which is why I put in that little paranoid emote.

You're dismissed.

ack-ack

Sir, yes sir! Sorry sir!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: BaldEagl on January 08, 2012, 11:54:49 AM
...spelling his name that way so people won't bother send him PMs

Roster, right click, tune to.  Whoops, that wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: Buckaroo on January 14, 2012, 01:06:16 AM
Something very strange is going on here...

Upped a 163 to intercept HQ attack and con turns out to be a P-38J.  :rolleyes:  So it's a griefer of another sort - someone out to waste your time.  I decide to chase him anyway and at 700 yards, he vanishes.  No kill, no nothing.  

After reviewing the film, it can be clearly seen that this plane is changing altitude; climbing up until I start closing and then descending.  And then the expertly timed magic "poof".  Convenient.

My questions start with why wasn't I awarded a kill?  Secondly, there is no info available for this player on the score or stat pages.  How can that be if he took at least one sortie?  A Scooby Snack for whomever can solve this mystery.


Here is the uncut film:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?c9pwkfqscuui9x2

FF to about 10:45 to cut to the chase.

First off, your SA is poor, looking at clipboard map, not realizing you have a fighter and not a bomber, unless the Dar ring is down or he was not in the Dar ring.  Whether you want to chase him is your decision.

Secondly, the P-38's SA is also poor, as you got pretty close to him and he not realizing you were there until the last moment.  All he had was rockets and guns; was he returning from an HQ attack as to no bombs carried.  I suspect he was up high, going home.  He saw you coming and said, "Adios, see ya', vaya con dios!"  

I am surprised the short range of a P-38 he got that far back.  Must have been a close by allied airbase, since in-air refuelling is not an option.

More than likely he pulled the plug.  Can this guy have much in-game experience attacking a HQ with a P-38?

My sense of it.

(I was doing a search, and saw this thread, is how I came upon it.)
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: EskimoJoe on January 14, 2012, 04:06:50 AM
no bombs carried.

I am surprised the short range of a P-38 he got that far back.  

Of course, one would NEVER carry a drop tank or two for such a long flight.
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: Buckaroo on January 14, 2012, 04:33:11 AM
Of course, one would NEVER carry a drop tank or two for such a long flight.

With bombs (plural) ?

L model, full tank, no drop tanks is 35 minutes, full throttle, not wep.
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: EskimoJoe on January 14, 2012, 05:28:05 AM
With bombs (plural) ?

L model, full tank, no drop tanks is 35 minutes, full throttle, not wep.

L model can carry 1DT and 1 1,000# bomb.
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: Buckaroo on January 14, 2012, 05:44:18 AM
L model can carry 1DT and 1 1,000# bomb.

That is true.

But why attack HQ with a P38?

Just something to do, I guess.
Title: Re: Calling the Mystery Machine
Post by: EskimoJoe on January 14, 2012, 05:55:59 AM
boost hit percentage.

unsure if it applies to P-38s tho.