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Special Events Forums => Scenario General => Topic started by: Fencer51 on January 11, 2012, 08:51:34 PM
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Announcing the first scenario of the 2012 season. Winter Sky - Death Ground will be centered around combat in western Germany in February 1945.
The plane set will include;
Germans - Fw-190A8, Fw-190D9, Fw-190F8, Bf-109G14, Bf-109K4, Me-262, Ar-234. (IF we get the Me-410 we will add it)
Allies - Tempest, Tyhpoon, Spit XIV, Spit XVI, Mosquito VI, B-26B, P-47D20, P-47D40, P-51D, P-38J, P-38L.
Also to take advantage of the changes in the ground combat system HTC is currently testing under BETA, we will be including vehicles as part of the event.
Germans - Mk IV H Panzer, Mk V Panther G, Mk VI Tiger, Mk VI Tiger II, Sdkfz 251, Wirbelwind, Ostwind, Storch.
Allies - M4-75W, M4-76W, Sherman Firefly VC, M-18 Hellcat, M3, M16, Wirbelwind, Storch.
Battles will take place on the winter Germany terrain for 2 frames and on the regular Germany terrain for 2 frames. Weather will be harsh at times with clouds down to ground level.
Approximately 100 Allied slots will be available for aircraft and approximately 86 German slots will be available for aircraft. Pilots will have 2 lives in aircraft and 2 in vehicles.
Approximately 20 Allied slots will be available for ground vehicles and approximately 16 German slots will be available for ground vehicles. Each side will have 2 spotter plane pilot positions airborne at any one time, that they can rotate between players. Drivers will have 4 lives in vehicles. Deaths in spotter planes will most likely not count toward this total.
Targets for aircraft will include cities, strats, towns, airbases and bridges. Ground battles will be over towns, geographical locations and other positions. Frames 1 and 2 ground combat will be British vs German, Frames 3 and 4 will be American vs German. There will be air to vehicle attack options. We are still evaluating the new system and how it will interact and will better have this defined in the writeup.
Start date of this scenario is up in the air as it will depend on when the current BETA is released and the Scenario Team is comfortable with the operation of all new items. This will be a Spring 2012 event, and it will be ran on Saturday Evenings at 10pm Eastern time for wheels up / or tracks out.
We are currently accepting volunteers for consideration as Commanding Officers. Please PM - Fencer51 and ROC.
We are currently looking at 3 scenarios for this year, stay tuned.
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Dibs on the 38s! :)
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Ohhhh ground battle!! Separate CO's on each side for the GV Battle? :t
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Ohhhh ground battle!! Separate CO's on each side for the GV Battle? :t
Thats how I would do it.
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I want in on this one :banana:
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Looks good. :aok
How are the Temps and 262s going to be distributed?
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holy sweetness! spring cant come soon enough!
:aok :aok :aok :aok :aok
scenarios, the only thing worth subscribing for!
**edit: please take off the WW and storch for allies! :(
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No TA152 love?
looking forward to it
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How are the Temps and 262s going to be distributed?
I was thinking something radical, like giving the RAF tempests and the Luftwaffe Me262s.
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No TA152 love
Nope.
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I was thinking something radical, like giving the RAF tempests and the Luftwaffe Me262s.
Sure, bring a guy into the 80th and he becomes a smart bellybutton like the rest of us. :aok
edit: I don't understand why the filter replaced bellybutton with 'backside'. Then again, if it was, my bellybutton would be a lot easier to wipe.
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**edit: please take off the WW and storch for allies! :(
Well.. since you said.. hey wait a sec..
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Is this based on the Battle of the Bulge
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Coolness - guess I better decide where I'm flying for this one. Temptations, temptations.
:D
Wurz
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hmm the storch.....I do love to spot for gvs. :D
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Looking for an early CO team for each side. We are providing an outline of the planes, and plenty of time to team build and practice the advantages and disadvantages of each plane matchup.
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I think the most interesting thing will be the ground war and how it reflects on everything else in the scenario. Can you imagine having to either level bomb GVs at 500 AGL and risk taking fire from the ground or dive bombing through thick fog a few hundred feet above the ground and risk not being able to pull out in time? The fast Allied armor moving fast into German held territory with their M18s, M16s and M3s against picket lines of Panzers, Panthers and Tiger lying in wait?
This is exactly how I hoped a repeat of DGS would be.. kudos to the CM team. :salute
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I was thinking something radical, like giving the RAF tempests and the Luftwaffe Me262s.
I lol'd.
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I was thinking something radical, like giving the RAF tempests and the Luftwaffe Me262s.
:rofl
What I meant was, will there be dedicated squads with these planes or volenteer pilots from other squads, ala Battle Over Germany?
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No TA152 love?
Makes me sad. :confused:
When this event is set they have been in production for about a month and already had a squad.
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So you won't fly this then because of that? That would be kinda sad.
It would be a bit like an Allied flyer suggesting that because it was true that the numbers should be 10 - 1 or more in favor of the Allies.
Just get your LW guys interested and come kill all the Allied pilots instead :)
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Makes me sad. say whut?
When this event is set they have been in production for about a month and already had a squad.
So you won't fly this then because of that?
I've read his post and tossed it through every google translator option out there and can't see where he said he isn't flying :D
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:rofl
What I meant was, will there be dedicated squads with these planes or volenteer pilots from other squads, ala Battle Over Germany?
You've been already volunteered for Stukas Devil 505. No 262 for you! :)
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I'm thinking about taking a P47.
It says P47D20 on the original post, would I be correct in my assumption it is the D25 model?
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So you won't fly this then because of that? That would be kinda sad.
It would be a bit like an Allied flyer suggesting that because it was true that the numbers should be 10 - 1 or more in favor of the Allies.
Just get your LW guys interested and come kill all the Allied pilots instead :)
I never said I would not fly. When I first saw the date I thought yes 152s then was quickly disappointed. I was disappointed because 152 is my main ride not because of any LuftWhiner agenda.
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You've been already volunteered for Stukas Devil 505. No 262 for you! :)
I wouldnt fly a Stuka against the Poles nevermind the Western Allies. Not sure what ride I want, all my favorite fighters are obsolete by this point.
Wheres my G-2 ? :cry
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I never said I would not fly. When I first saw the date I thought yes 152s then was quickly disappointed. I was disappointed because 152 is my main ride not because of any LuftWhiner agenda.
Glad to hear it. I look forward to you shooting me down :aok
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Wheres my G-2 ? :cry
There's the g14 . . . Not exactly the same, of course, but a good plane that is similar.
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Separate CO's on each side for the GV Battle
Hmm I would be interested. I CO'd the tanks in Tunisia and Red Storm/Krupp Steel and had an absolute blast. Keep me in mind as a reserve.
If someone who hasn't done it before would like the job, I think it would be more fair for them to have it. :salute
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I wouldnt fly a Stuka against the Poles nevermind the Western Allies. Not sure what ride I want, all my favorite fighters are obsolete by this point.
Wheres my G-2 ? :cry
Show me that they had G-2s in service, I will save you the time, they did not on the western front.
And for the TA-152s, they were not up to speed in February and not used on the western front tactical fights.
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Show me that they had G-2s in service, I will save you the time, they did not on the western front.
And for the TA-152s, they were not up to speed in February and not used on the western front tactical fights.
now i feel better about those allied wirbles and storch.. :D :D :D
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Show me that they had G-2s in service, I will save you the time, they did not on the western front.
And for the TA-152s, they were not up to speed in February and not used on the western front tactical fights.
First combat sorties are listed late jan to early feb.
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I would formally like to lodge a complaint: I promised the Mrs. that I would stay out of the next scenario after Enemy Coast because of the amount of time I spent in planning and participation. I can't miss this one!!!! :cry
Looks awesome folks! :aok
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I would formally like to lodge a complaint: I promised the Mrs. that I would stay out of the next scenario after Enemy Coast because of the amount of time I spent in planning and participation. I can't miss this one!!!! :cry
Looks awesome folks! :aok
Easy fix. Second account ... get her in a GV!! :t
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I would formally like to lodge a complaint: I promised the Mrs. that I would stay out of the next scenario after Enemy Coast because of the amount of time I spent in planning and participation. I can't miss this one!!!! Cry
Hmm, ok, here you go bud, I got your back.
You did keep your promise. See, we had planned on a different event after Enemy Coast and were going to run Winter Sky later. We didn't do this particular event as the map wasn't ready, so technically Winter Sky is the event After the event after Enemy Coast.
There, no promises broken, we got this :D
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(http://www.51hangar.net/banners/WSDG2012.jpg)
Announcing the first scenario of the 2012 season. Winter Sky - Death Ground will be centered around combat in western Germany in February 1945.
The plane set will include;
Germans - Fw-190A8, Fw-190D9, Fw-190F8, Bf-109G14, Bf-109K4, Me-262, Ar-234. (IF we get the Me-410 we will add it)
Allies - Tempest, Tyhpoon, Spit XIV, Spit XVI, Mosquito VI, B-26B, P-47D20, P-47D40, P-51D, P-38J, P-38L.
Also to take advantage of the changes in the ground combat system HTC is currently testing under BETA, we will be including vehicles as part of the event.
Wow a P-47D20 would be super and appropriate, dang~ probably just a typo, throw in the D11! :salute
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Hmm, ok, here you go bud, I got your back.
You did keep your promise. See, we had planned on a different event after Enemy Coast and were going to run Winter Sky later. We didn't do this particular event as the map wasn't ready, so technically Winter Sky is the event After the event after Enemy Coast.
There, no promises broken, we got this :D
LOL I am totally confused and she will be too when I explain it to her! This should work... :lol
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:x *polishes his Dora*
So, what about 110s since 410s are on the table? I know they'd be a bit outclassed, so I'm not asking for them to be included, just wondering why.
Winter skins for the tanks possible in the maps? (even without snow-friendly paint jobs, many tanks got a good dusting of it, enough to be of some signifigance to GVs. Any skinners available for taking some existing skins and slapping on ample snow/mud? :aok )
(http://www.americainwwii.com/images/galleries/2009/icy-battle-of-the-bulge/15-tank-us-snow.jpg)
And, last question, whats the time slot looking like? TBD?
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First combat sorties are listed late jan to early feb.
Not counting the many variants of late Fw190D models that had similar engines, performance, and weapons, that were all being trickled out before this time.
While the Ta152 itself may have certain times, it can sub in for a few other related models too.
EDIT: Not that I'm asking to have it added, just adding to the argument that it fits more than just itself.
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:x *polishes his Dora*
So, what about 110s since 410s are on the table? I know they'd be a bit outclassed, so I'm not asking for them to be included, just wondering why.
Winter skins for the tanks possible in the maps? (even without snow-friendly paint jobs, many tanks got a good dusting of it, enough to be of some signifigance to GVs. Any skinners available for taking some existing skins and slapping on ample snow/mud? :aok )
(http://www.americainwwii.com/images/galleries/2009/icy-battle-of-the-bulge/15-tank-us-snow.jpg)
And, last question, whats the time slot looking like? TBD?
The ME110s were only flying as NachtJadgers at this point in the war. They were some of the most successful Luftwaffe Staffelen as well.
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(http://www.americainwwii.com/images/galleries/2009/icy-battle-of-the-bulge/15-tank-us-snow.jpg)
And, last question, whats the time slot looking like? TBD?
Winter skins will be default on all tanks on the winter map except the M18, which will be a green terrain usage.. M3, WW and OSTW are also without winter skins.
Time was included in the first post as Saturday Eveningat 10pm est.
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Winter skins will be default on all tanks on the winter map except the M18, which will be a green terrain usage.. M3, WW and OSTW are also without winter skins.
Time was included in the first post as Saturday Eveningat 10pm est.
Sucks for them.
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Sucks for them.
Depends on which Wirbel or Ostie the Wirbelgawd is driving... :devil
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Fencer:
Will the 262s be avilable all frames or just last 1 or 2?
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Fencer:
Will the 262s be avilable all frames or just last 1 or 2?
All frames and will be their own unit. Probably JG7.
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Sucks for them.
Still time for you to make the skins. Can I expect them Wednesday next week?
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Interesting writeup Fencer and staff. Of course, I shall attend, as usual. :)
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so when does registration open. . .
and please do reconsider the TA152 (<3)
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how about a group of tank personnel only, without having to fly a plane.
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how about a group of tank personnel only, without having to fly a plane.
There are. Go back to the top an read Fencer's post again more completely :)
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There are. Go back to the top an read Fencer's post again more completely :)
You mean,
"Also to take advantage of the changes in the ground combat system HTC is currently testing under BETA, we will be including vehicles as part of the event.
Germans - Mk IV H Panzer, Mk V Panther G, Mk VI Tiger, Mk VI Tiger II, Sdkfz 251, Wirbelwind, Ostwind, Storch.
Allies - M4-75W, M4-76W, Sherman Firefly VC, M-18 Hellcat, M3, M16, Wirbelwind, Storch.
Approximately 20 Allied slots will be available for ground vehicles and approximately 16 German slots will be available for ground vehicles. Each side will have 2 spotter plane pilot positions airborne at any one time, that they can rotate between players. Drivers will have 4 lives in vehicles. Deaths in spotter planes will most likely not count toward this total."
those parts? :rofl
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No, no... you're supposed to say;
"And BOING! Another wish granted!" :devil
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yaaaaaa A Saturday night Event I am in for the Axis :rock :rock
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Thank you for the Saturday night scheduling. In please with DrBone and the rest of Top Gun.
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Depending on job schedule, I will try to be there for a bomber slot. If need be, I'll fly Rook and wage war on both Allied and Axis! I'm an equal oppurtunity type of guy. :devil
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Still time for you to make the skins. Can I expect them Wednesday next week?
Honestly, if we had an existing skin(s) that just needed some "winterization" and then they'd be good to go in this scenario, I'd take it up and bang them out in a couple hours. I wouldn't have time to scratch build one or at least one better than somebody's 4-yo's crayon coloring book.
Edit: Has anyone made a theatre/scenario-apropriate WW skin (nevermind one besides our default) that has been good/acurate enough to be included in the game? Every WW scheme I can think of off the top of my head in-game is in NA/Med schemes. I'd have to start there and with contacting those artists/creators for their permisions/files, and that might take a while to get a responce.
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Looks like a great Scenario.
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Is this based on the Battle of the Bulge
Feb '45...definitely wrapping up Battle of Bulge...immersion point: of course you wouldn't have known it in reality...but...you'd have had an idea just from reading a map that the war would be over soon...message of the day: "Stay alive to get home..."
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AWESOME.
I have a big project going at work, it should be done by then. I have been the XO many times and helped the CO run things. I would like to be CO of JG/26 this time, if that would be ok with you guys?
Thanks
Ditto
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Sweet, I'm putting in for GL of a 47D-40 group please
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Still time for you to make the skins. Can I expect them Wednesday next week?
Sure, as long as you can get them accepted and have the skin update released by then...
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Ahh but young skywalker they would go into the terrain, not the game.
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Ahh but young skywalker they would go into the terrain, not the game.
If it would go that quickly, I might even give it a whirl.
Now... if anyone has references. I'm at work and I don't have time to do research AND skin at the same time...
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ill be a GL again for Luft. had a blast doing it in ECA :rock
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What type of research? Need some WW photos? Colored ones I've never had any luck finding, yet.
I'm thinking that beige/brown/green camo scheme, but some may of been full-grey. I can never find colored photos, but there are plenty of b/w. I can't tell in the fist picture, weather the tanks are two different paint schemes, or one is simpley a burned hulk, but it looks to be a knocked out grey WW not 15-feet from a knocked out camo-schemed WW (during the Ardennes offencive and with a nice dusting of snow/frost on each to boot).
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/4495743627_95745bd4fa.jpg)
(http://img.over-blog.com/504x323/0/39/65/84/GERMAN-FLAK/503-10.jpg)
(http://img.over-blog.com/553x358/0/39/65/84/GERMAN-FLAK/flakvierling.jpg)
(http://img.over-blog.com/499x298/0/39/65/84//W-DESTROY.jpg)
(http://www.treefrogtreasures.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=24605&stc=1&d=1231065190)
(http://www.helmo.gr/gallery2/d/63254-1/DSCN0683.jpg)
There are some digitaly colorized pohotos of the b/w originals above, too.
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looks fun
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Woohoo... a Saturday night scenario. :banana: Now I have to decide which side to play for. A8? K4? Spit IX? Spit XVI? Soooo hard to decide.
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May have to Subscribe again to fly this 1............. :aok
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Woohoo... a Saturday night scenario. :banana: Now I have to decide which side to play for. A8? K4? Spit IX? Spit XVI? Soooo hard to decide.
No it's not. Trust your feelings... :devil
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i just registered online for the scenario! (http://youtu.be/VpLLq6WEDNo) :D :D
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:bhead
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:bhead :bhead
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LehrGeschwader (?)
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This one has a ground component too. Btw.. III./JG11 :cheers:
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This one has a ground component too. Btw.. III./JG11 :cheers:
Ah.
Outstanding. I would love to GL III Gruppe if/when available. :cheers:
:airplane:
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Im just hoping to get my computer in, in time after one of those FAC slots. :rock
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:huh :confused: :O :eek: :uhoh ,
:rock :aok :banana: :cheers:
( :ahand )
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This one is shaping up to look like an incredible amount of fun. Some lucky COs are really going to have to bring their A game and team.
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I kinda mentioned something to the Mrs. at an opportune time and she did not get upset about another scenario coming up! :D Looking good here if I keep up with the honey-do list! :banana:
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I kinda mentioned something to the Mrs. at an opportune time and she did not get upset about another scenario coming up! :D Looking good here if I keep up with the honey-do list! :banana:
One step ahead of the honey do list and some added gifts should do the trick! :t
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One step ahead of the honey do list and some added gifts should do the trick! :t
LOL You are right She! Time to shop for bling bling! :rofl
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This will be a Spring 2012 event, and it will be ran on Saturday Evenings at 10pm Eastern time
it was looking great until I reached here. Another scenario I won't be able to attend because of this stupid timing. If you are only holding 3 a year I'll be lucky to be able to participate in one a year at this rate. :(. :cry
If you want to cater for all time zones why not do like it was done in AW? Euro-friendly timed frames on a weekend and US timed frames one evening during the week? As I remember that worked very well and kept the majority of scenario junkies like me happy. Something worth considering?
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This is what I said, but I think that the CMs are still trying to see what the different times do for them. Plus someone is always goin to get a bad time just for the fact that our players are all across the globe.
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Another US only event :bhead
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Will squads be 8 pilots max?
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too bad scenario's can't go 24-7 like A-n-A...that'd be the most fun...war's 24/7 right??? besides...each and everytime I log in no matter when...A-n-A might have 1 person in it...what's that about???
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too bad scenario's can't go 24-7 like A-n-A...that'd be the most fun...war's 24/7 right??? besides...each and everytime I log in no matter when...A-n-A might have 1 person in it...what's that about???
this would ruin my life. . .
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Will squads be 8 pilots max?
Did anyone hear me? I am A GL so I need to make preperations if it is only going to be 8, again. I have 12 people that want to play and so I need to know the max please. Thanks.
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Did anyone hear me? I am A GL so I need to make preperations if it is only going to be 8, again. I have 12 people that want to play and so I need to know the max please. Thanks.
On the Axis, if every plane gets only one squadron, it is 12 slots a squad. That said there will most likely be more than one squadron for each plane so I would reckon that there will be 8 slots per squad.
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Did anyone hear me? I am A GL so I need to make preperations if it is only going to be 8, again. I have 12 people that want to play and so I need to know the max please. Thanks.
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It sure would be nice to be able to field squadron sized units of 12 or more.
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I think we probably need to see who the COs are before anyone claims a GL position :D
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I think we probably need to see who the COs are before anyone claims a GL position :D
:aok
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Speaking of which we are still open for CO volunteers.
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So have the dates been set yet? I've out of the loop fora bit. :joystick:
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Cant set dates until both CO's have stepped up.
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Ah well Ty sir do we have either side co yet?
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It sure would be nice to be able to field squadron sized units of 12 or more.
Indeed. I likely wont be able to have my squad fly. Got 12 participants, 8 slots. :mad:
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I agree. However due to low turnouts for recent events and the need to have enough units to accomplish tasks it is what it is..
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Indeed. I likely wont be able to have my squad fly. Got 12 participants, 8 slots. :mad:
Sign up for two squads. Last Scenario I had squaddies on both sides in a few different squads. Still had a great time :)
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It sure would be nice to be able to field squadron sized units of 12 or more.
A truly dedicated Aces High player will have 10 seperate computers with 10 seperate accounts and register 10 seperate times for a single Scenario.
To be fair, 5 registrations to Allied and 5 registrations to Axis. That player has to keep up with both Allied and Axis forums for the Scenario. Must lead one squad per side or serve as both Axis and Allied CO.
Stampf, we're counting on you. Don't let us down. :pray
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I agree. However due to low turnouts for recent events and the need to have enough units to accomplish tasks it is what it is..
That doesn't mean that its not handled so there are options for larger than 8.. trust me. Dave you know i design all my events around JG11. :cheers:
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Last Scenario I had squaddies on both sides in a few different squads.
Wonderfull I'll pass :rolleyes: fix the back chanel for these events
Poof,
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So did I, nothing wrong with that.
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Dora GL Dibs. Nuff said.... :aok
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I think I'll be taking either a K4 or a G14. Looks fun!
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YOU'RE DOING GVS IN A SCENARIO AND DID NOT ALERT ME OF THIS?!?!?! HOW DARE YOU! I'll be there! :x
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Registration page is loaded up. Registration will open at Noonish Sunday eastern time.
http://www.ahevents.org/scenario-registration.html
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Fencer,
Looks like a nice battle brewing. :aok Real quick... The registration page states that the P-51s are from the 355th FG/ 354th and 356th FSs, but the write up document has the P-51s in the 354th FG/355th and 356th FS.
The registration page correctly states the FG allocation.
Cheers...
:salute
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For the Allied CO...
Sir, I'd like to avail myself as the GL for the 355th FG/354 FS. I appreciate the consideration.
Cheers...
:salute
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Writeup posted.
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I would ask a question but I dont think it will work. Something just doesnt make sense to me.
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I would ask a question but I dont think it will work. Something just doesnt make sense to me.
I don't make sense to me, yet I ask question alot :D PM the question if you aren't confortable asking publicly.
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I have a question or two myself. I'm just studying the writeup now.
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I have a question or two myself. I'm just studying the writeup now.
They will open up command forums for you, Seseph and your XO's to discuss the setup and ask questions of the CM's. Until then, PM them like crazy, that is what they are there for. :aok
Good luck gents!
Way
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51s and 38s get 10 slots. Every Axis fighter gets 8. That sucks. Ill have a bout 4 ppl Ill have to send elsewhere.
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I'm registered :banana: let's kick the tires :airplane:
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51s and 38s get 10 slots. Every Axis fighter gets 8. That sucks. Ill have a bout 4 ppl Ill have to send elsewhere.
Sounds like your the right size unit for SG2. Enjoy!
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For the Allied CO...
Sir, I'd like to avail myself as the GL for the 355th FG/354 FS. I appreciate the consideration.
Cheers...
:salute
Thats the 354th FG withthe 355th and 356th squadrons
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Sounds like your the right size unit for SG2. Enjoy!
No thanks.
So why do the 51s and 38s get 10 slots and Axis only gets 8?
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Why do the Axis get 4 Me262s? Why does SG2 get 12 190F8s? Why does KG76 get 6 AR234s? Why do the B-26s come in sets of 5? Why are some units grouped in dual squadron sized units at airfields and others are not? Why do the P-38s and P-51s get 10 planes per squadron? Why do the Allies have 4 targets and the Axis 2? Why did Fencer put in ground combat again (that's one I would like explained! :bhead)?
These are the many questions of scenario design that can only be understood with true vision of both side's tasks not only your own side's.
Unfortunate that your "need" to fly with your buddies is not important enough for you to fly a different aircraft. Alas I hope they will understand, I know I do.
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Why did Fencer put in ground combat again (that's one I would like explained! :bhead)?
This one, at least, I know the answer to. I have this voodoo doll and a model Panzer, and . . .
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Someone call me? :noid
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Why do the Axis get 4 Me262s? Why does SG2 get 12 190F8s? Why does KG76 get 6 AR234s? Why do the B-26s come in sets of 5? Why are some units grouped in dual squadron sized units at airfields and others are not? Why do the P-38s and P-51s get 10 planes per squadron? Why do the Allies have 4 targets and the Axis 2? Why did Fencer put in ground combat again (that's one I would like explained! :bhead)?
These are the many questions of scenario design that can only be understood with true vision of both side's tasks not only your own side's.
Unfortunate that your "need" to fly with your buddies is not important enough for you to fly a different aircraft. Alas I hope they will understand, I know I do.
Wow. A simple "Cuz im the boss" would've been fine.
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Why are all Scenarios designed by Fencer?
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Why are all Scenarios designed by Fencer?
Fencer is the originator of many designs -- that's one of his roles in the scenario team. Not all of them originated with him (BoB, Rangoon, Coral Sea, Husky, Stalin's, Downfall, Malta, for example, originated with others -- in some ways Enemy Coast originated with CorkyJr). Regardless of who the originator of the idea is, it goes through review and modifications by the team.
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Fencer is the originator of many designs -- that's one of his roles in the scenario team. Not all of them originated with him (BoB, Rangoon, Coral Sea, Husky, Stalin's, Downfall, Malta, for example, originated with others -- in some ways Enemy Coast originated with CorkyJr). Regardless of who the originator of the idea is, it goes through review and modifications by the team.
Ok.
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Wow. A simple "Cuz im the boss" would've been fine.
I thought about that, because I prefer quick answers. Yet, while that is true, its not the entire reason. A more appropriate quick response would have been.. "Because I have done these before and I have spent hours looking at this and this will allow the best balance for both sides based upon their tasking." Shoulda used that one, but I figured you wouldn't be satisfied with that.
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The most difficult part of explaining why certain things are set up in a scenario is explaining it while not tipping the hand of potential strategies that either side might employ. While there is no guarantee that those strategies will be employed, they can be. We make sure all sides have an even chance of winning, but stop at that opportunity. We won't say why or how we came to the decisions. Squad sizes might be drafted into a design to insure certain formations are escorted with certain amounts of planes, it might be to break up groups that tend to gather among themselves and do what they want instead of what's needed, it takes months to put these together and there are many reasons why decisions are made. But I can assure you, each decision is made for a reason, we hope they are good ones, but each choice is discussed and weighed, each change or modification dissected against potential unintended consequences.
What we like to focus on in Scenarios is recreating one element of the war that was vital. That is simply to focus on what is there, what you have, what you have to do with it. There is not nearly enough time to practice, drill, train, and plan to waste that time on what if, or what could have been. Personally, were I flying, I would be looking at what I could do with what I have. Nothing else matters, it won't help one bit.
Purdue, I know you are looking to have fun with your squad, but we don't design the events for the benefit of one squad, and I know you are not asking that we do, we design the event to benefit the event itself and the players. The numbers are what they are. Work with that.
Cause he's the boss? Hell he wishes it was that easy LOL :rofl
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I know I do.
Why not elaborate on that?
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Purdue, I know you are looking to have fun with your squad, but we don't design the events for the benefit of one squad, and I know you are not asking that we do, we design the event to benefit the event itself and the players. The numbers are what they are. Work with that.
I understand and I will try. Unfortunately some will not have fun for they cant fly with the squad. I know there is nothing that can be done. All I asked for was a simple answer to a simple question. I didnt think that Fencer had to be so ill about it, oh well
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Why not elaborate on that?
Sure. There are times when a person's desire to recreate a portion of history by flying a particular plane over rides the normal bonding of flying with one's buddies. For example Soulyss flew B-25s in Phillapine Phandango rather than his normal P-38 with his buddies.
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Isn't the primary purpose of a Scenario to fly in a historical squad or aircraft for the individual? MA squaddies are icing on the cake when they fly in the same Scenario squad.
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The Circus members have flown in almost every SEC I have and Ive only flown with them once outta 6-7 scenarios. Fly what you want but please just get in and fly. Come to think of it that SEC was the only one where we were even on the same side. Me and BushLT trade shots on almost every one. :aok
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Why are all Scenarios designed by Fencer?
Oh man, what a straight line...
Ready?
Just lucky I guess. :rofl
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Isn't the primary purpose of a Scenario to fly in a historical squad or aircraft for the individual? MA squaddies are icing on the cake when they fly in the same Scenario squad.
For the most part yep. I know in the last scenario I had guys from all over in my Spit V squad. Was fun that way too. I've flown scenarios with mostly squaddies too. Kinda depends on who is interested or what the plane set is. I tend to look to fly 38s with squaddies. Not many of them as big of a Spit fan as myself though so in that case it might be other folks.
It was definitely fun having Wurz and Batfink in the head phones while flying Spits out of Hawkinge :aok
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It was definitely fun having Wurz and Batfink in the head phones while flying Spits out of Hawkinge :aok
Absolutely. I had a similar experience flying with airbull, yarbles, Amsoil, and coombzy in Hurricanes in the last Rangoon. The radio traffic definitely added to the immersion. :aok
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Man, with all the Pony driver's I see on a regular basis in the MA's, it sure is a slow go on getting those pony slots filled. :joystick:
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Hi Guys. This one has been under the radar for me. Just accidentally found out about it. Did the usual broad mail-out invite (ok spam) go out?
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Hi Guys. This one has been under the radar for me. Just accidentally found out about it. Did the usual broad mail-out invite (ok spam) go out?
I m not aware of our generally emailing people about scenarios.
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I m not aware of our generally emailing people about scenarios.
I have done it in the past. Basically, took the list of e-mail addresses of registratants from the previous scenario and e-mailed them all about the upcoming scenario.
I ran into a technical snag of doing that, though, and with the new twins, it was one of the things that slipped off my plate.
It is a good idea to do it, I think, and I have never gotten a complaint back from anyone yelling at me about spam. Most folks either seemed to appreciate the notice or didn't mind getting one e-mail about it even if they didn't plan on playing in it.
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Hi Guys. This one has been under the radar for me. Just accidentally found out about it. Did the usual broad mail-out invite (ok spam) go out?
An empty squad of Tiffies just there for the taking Dantoo :)
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An empty squad of Tiffies just there for the taking Dantoo :)
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Brooke it might be worth making an announcement or two at FSO this week given the vague similarity (fairly slim) between this and the current FSO.
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Heya Dantoo :) I'll be in the FSO this week promoting the event. Most of the CMs are promoting in their respective events now as well. Hope to see you up :)
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What I should do is get an e-mail out.
The problem is that I used to be able to do a mailing from my regular account, but recently, my ISP has banned large mailings unless I use mail list software (which I haven't had time to figure out how to set up on my site). I'll split things up and do a bunch of smaller mailings, though.
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I received an email from some shady character named Fencer this morning.
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I received an email from some shady character named Fencer this morning.
Same here, I can't believe how cheap he can sell those little blue pills!
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I understand that Hitech and Skuzzy probably don't want to hear this, but if there is some way to add space in the lobby or another portion of the main areas for adverting AH Events. That would certainly go a long way with getting folks acquainted with special events and increase participation.
My 2 cents...
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I understand that Hitech and Skuzzy probably don't want to hear this, but if there is some way to add space in the lobby or another portion of the main areas for adverting AH Events. That would certainly go a long way with getting folks acquainted with special events and increase participation.
My 2 cents...
At this time per Skuzzy "That is a bit problematic, logistically." Skuzzy is however, working on something that will help. Details will come. When I know ... you'll know.
:salute
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I understand that Hitech and Skuzzy probably don't want to hear this, but if there is some way to add space in the lobby or another portion of the main areas for adverting AH Events. That would certainly go a long way with getting folks acquainted with special events and increase participation.
My 2 cents...
Maybe they can create code to place a Bi-Plane circling every field that drags a banner that can be uploaded with any messages for upcoming events. Works great in real life on a sunny day ay Daytona Beach.
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Maybe they can create code to place a Bi-Plane circling every field that drags a banner that can be uploaded with any messages for upcoming events. Works great in real life on a sunny day ay Daytona Beach.
:aok
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Maybe they can create code to place a Bi-Plane circling every field that drags a banner that can be uploaded with any messages for upcoming events. Works great in real life on a sunny day ay Daytona Beach.
:rofl
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Heya Dantoo :) I'll be in the FSO this week promoting the event. Most of the CMs are promoting in their respective events now as well. Hope to see you up :)
Hi ROC. Your silky tones and purring demeanour in FSO have had an effect. Squad voted to go tiffs. Will start getting them registered.
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Great!!! :) The CMs in there did the purring though, I was just up there offering a blood sacrifice to the scenario cods in anticipation of a good turnout. That's why I got shot down.......and that's the story I'm sticking to!
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Maybe they can create code to place a Bi-Plane circling every field that drags a banner that can be uploaded with any messages for upcoming events. Works great in real life on a sunny day ay Daytona Beach.
Yea it works great here in Cocoa Beach too lol !!!!! :salute