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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: infowars on January 15, 2012, 12:17:48 AM
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A training video on how to attack a B-29...
Kinda cool, I don't think this is a repost.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a2_1320515198
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No training video needed. Attack it the same way you do any other bomber, only speed and firepower are even more of a priority. ;) The Ta152 haulin' arse from a higher altitude does nicely. At minimum, dual 20mm are needed, imo. Otherwise, going as fast as you need to be to avoid the B29's defenses mean that you'll have less "time on target" and quad .50's and in many case 6/.50's simply wont do.
The 190's, 109's w/ gondolas (triple 20mm), Typhoons, Tempests, Ta152, P47's with 8/.50's, and obviously Me262's, and a few "fast moving and well armed aircraft" will do the job well. The higher the B29 is, the more the Ta 152 shines in the B29 killer role.
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Shoot it all over her belly.
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Shoot it all over her belly.
That's what she said........
:D
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Shoot it all over her belly.
You're dead from the belly
Go ahead find my 29's and try it :devil
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Before I watch the video my guess is in AH to attack from the low 11 or 1 position using the rudder to slidslip and sire across the cockpit and wing areas, mabe even hitting that gigantic vert stab.
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Now that I have watched it, I am surprised the do not come on from a low position, and at low alts recommend what we would consider a rear attack, which would be considered suicidal in AH.
I especially wonder why every attack starts above the target? Thats where the best vision, and biggest concentration of guns are.
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Finding a set of B29's would be nice :)
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Finding a set of B29's would be nice :)
It's unlikely you will find one by happenstance. You gotta hunt them!! Could take you the better part of an hour to find, climb, and set up your attack at 30+k but DAMN is rewarding if you bag one.
Some of us (occasionally me) specifically fly for stuff like this.
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I've killed them with a Zero.
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With a tank,, on the Tarmac! Just sayin!!!
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With the candlestick.........in the ballroom.
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I've killed them with a Zero.
I've killed them with a set of B17s. :D 50-something perks for all 3.
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Thank you for posting this! Very interesting that there was no mention of the Tu-4, a reverse engineered B-29 fielded by USSR but seems certain that this was the reason for this film.
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With the candlestick.........in the ballroom.
pistol in the kitchen
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pistol in the kitchen
Colonel Mustard!
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Miss Scarlet... with the rope... in the.... hehe
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Interesting film. The HO shot and the high quarter attack looked like they would work reasonably well given that you are flying a Meteor with a 100mph speed advantage and more alt than the B29 at 30K ft. I'm not so sure we can duplicate this in a Ta-152 since the speed and alt difference is not as great, but it looks like something to try.
One thing I noticed was that they recommended starting a HO attack at 12 MILES out in front of the B-29 group and breaking above the group - getting way out in front might be a bit tougher in non-jet aircraft.
Good find though!
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Here is how you kill a low B-29 in a crowd:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?f6o92d2spwwn2dq
52 seconds
Here is how you kill a high B-29:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?wsjd5fuhjaet4ev
28 seconds
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Miss Scarlet... with the rope... in the.... hehe
Isn't that how David carridean died?? just sayin
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http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?5omsjji53vmx8qd (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?5omsjji53vmx8qd) or this... :banana:
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Shoot it all over her belly.
i prefer controlled bursts on her back ;)
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Finding a set of B29's would be nice :)
You must anticipate them. You need to be where they are going to be, not where they are. 2 days ago I guessed correctly, watched him fly 5 sectors gaining alt by just the dar bar, guessed correctly where he would hit, was waiting at 32k when he came in for his first drop and smacked him while he was in the bombsite, poof.
You have to want it, there will be distractions that will pull you away unless you remain committed and focused.
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In that film, I had seen them pass another base 2 sectors NE of where I'd upped my 110, I knew where he was going and DAR was up there, even so, he could have easily outrun and out-climbed me. He kept trying to turn in front of me, shortening the intercept distance. B-29's best defense= straight speed, altitude & endurance. :salute
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What this thread needs is a Lusche piechart demonstrating who has killed the most B-29s! :aok
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What this thread needs is a Lusche piechart demonstrating who has killed the most B-29s! :aok
I imagine his name would be "Pilot"
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:x :x Just blow your load coming in the door....and have her make you a sandwitch! :cheers: :bolt:
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I imagine his name would be "Pilot"
It wont be anyone in a Brewster I assure you. :D
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It wont be anyone in a Brewster I assure you. :D
I should have specified,,, B-29 pilots!!! :banana:
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What this thread needs is a Lusche piechart demonstrating who has killed the most B-29s! :aok
<- 27-1 against the B-29. :banana:
Would be very interesting to see who killed the most of every plane. Pssst, Lusche.....
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Sawed the wing off one last night in my P47D25
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s35/68zoom/b29-1.jpg)
Dora will chew them up also
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s35/68zoom/B29Dora.jpg)
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I saw a B29 up at 28k, I took a 262 up that high to have a go, bugger all was happening in my immediate area.
It took a few illfated passes, I managed to lose a few parts, but I eventually set his right outboard engine aflame.
Really is a bizarre feeling flying up that high, and one 'ell of a fall for that B29 :D
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I saw a B29 up at 28k, I took a 262 up that high to have a go, bugger all was happening in my immediate area.
It took a few illfated passes, I managed to lose a few parts, but I eventually set his right outboard engine aflame.
Really is a bizarre feeling flying up that high, and one 'ell of a fall for that B29 :D
Buff hunting, although it requires some investment in climbout and interception at altitude, I find always a fun, rewarding (after a while you learn good tools/planes for the job and how to beter use them) and challenging sortie. If it's a busier night, you can net more than one customer around the strats or a popular base target, although rearms and re-climbouts may be necessary.
These missions, probabley because I tend to fly during prime times also, tend to frequently (~20%) also place you at ideal locations, with ideal loadouts, and at an ideal time (often times already airborne) for a small or large enemy bomber mission to intercept. They also though, just as frequently, end in no contact or sighting, but if you have patience (and a good 6-pack and/or a new music albumb or something like that to absorb while at it) and like the challenge and different world of flying above 20k, it's something to get out of this game if you haven't before.
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Buff hunting, although it requires some investment in climbout and interception at altitude, I find always a fun, rewarding (after a while you learn good tools/planes for the job and how to beter use them) and challenging sortie. If it's a busier night, you can net more than one customer around the strats or a popular base target, although rearms and re-climbouts may be necessary.
These missions, probabley because I tend to fly during prime times also, tend to frequently (~20%) also place you at ideal locations, with ideal loadouts, and at an ideal time (often times already airborne) for a small or large enemy bomber mission to intercept. They also though, just as frequently, end in no contact or sighting, but if you have patience (and a good 6-pack and/or a new music albumb or something like that to absorb while at it) and like the challenge and different world of flying above 20k, it's something to get out of this game if you haven't before.
I gotta try that.
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I gotta try that.
Just do be careful and hopefuly enjoying yourself regardless of potentialy making any rushed decisions that results in a lost wing or major component after already flying in that plane for like an hour. :aok
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Good music and a full glass are also requirements for these missions.
I like the hunt.
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Make no mistake, after you have invested 30 minutes to be in the right place, at the right time, the wife ack will come up to you and start hammering away 5 seconds before you need to fire on that perfect approach. It took you 30 minutes to get there, but she will cross the living room in about 3 seconds.
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(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7149/6731320869_367ce14cd8_z.jpg)
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Make no mistake, after you have invested 30 minutes to be in the right place, at the right time, the wife ack will come up to you and start hammering away 5 seconds before you need to fire on that perfect approach. It took you 30 minutes to get there, but she will cross the living room in about 3 seconds.
Your wife is that slow? :D :salute
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Buff hunting, although it requires some investment in climbout and interception at altitude, I find always a fun, rewarding (after a while you learn good tools/planes for the job and how to beter use them) and challenging sortie. If it's a busier night, you can net more than one customer around the strats or a popular base target, although rearms and re-climbouts may be necessary.
Seems to be quite a few of you who enjoy it. A couple weeks ago we had a base pretty close to an enemy strat so I decided to up some b24s and have at it.
Got my first pass on target but immediately afterward I encountered resistance. Shot down two, turned back, and blew up some more targets before I started heading home. Ended up with 6 kills before I lost the last b24 to a p47 that I just couldn't get the lucky shot on with waning ammunition. I wanted so bad to return home after a sortie like that but they just wouldn't let up. Never expected such an exciting fight, though. Was a lot of fun.
Next time I hit a strat I guess I'll climb higher than 13K. :aok
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Seems to be quite a few of you who enjoy it. A couple weeks ago we had a base pretty close to an enemy strat so I decided to up some b24s and have at it.
Got my first pass on target but immediately afterward I encountered resistance. Shot down two, turned back, and blew up some more targets before I started heading home. Ended up with 6 kills before I lost the last b24 to a p47 that I just couldn't get the lucky shot on with waning ammunition. I wanted so bad to return home after a sortie like that but they just wouldn't let up. Never expected such an exciting fight, though. Was a lot of fun.
Next time I hit a strat I guess I'll climb higher than 13K. :aok
Sounds like 6 guys that aren't all that good at killing buffs. Tell you what: send me a p.m. the next time you are in 13k bombers. :aok
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Haha, you got that right.
I still made some good shots, though. :D
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Seems to be quite a few of you who enjoy it. A couple weeks ago we had a base pretty close to an enemy strat so I decided to up some b24s and have at it.
Got my first pass on target but immediately afterward I encountered resistance. Shot down two, turned back, and blew up some more targets before I started heading home. Ended up with 6 kills before I lost the last b24 to a p47 that I just couldn't get the lucky shot on with waning ammunition. I wanted so bad to return home after a sortie like that but they just wouldn't let up. Never expected such an exciting fight, though. Was a lot of fun.
Next time I hit a strat I guess I'll climb higher than 13K. :aok
What's your ingame ID please. FYI, I am a buff hunter and I have a short list of buff pilots I respect so much that I always let the last one return home. Anyone hittin the strats below 20k is probably going to be on that list, at leat temporarily.
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mikey15 :aok
Yeah, I'm not much for climbing to ridiculous heights. Both because it takes too damn long and the fact that I enjoy having stuff to shoot at. Buffs just get too much of an advantage once you get high enough, imo. And my aim with the bombers is something that came back almost immediately after I returned from my ~3 year hiatus less than a month ago. I fire a mean flak shell too if I do say so myself. :D Can't say the same for my fighter gunnery, though. :headscratch:
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People hitting strats are not safe at any altitude.
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6008/6003777241_33a5fac1a7_b.jpg)
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Make no mistake, after you have invested 30 minutes to be in the right place, at the right time, the wife ack will come up to you and start hammering away 5 seconds before you need to fire on that perfect approach. It took you 30 minutes to get there, but she will cross the living room in about 3 seconds.
:rofl Damned if you do, damned if you don't... and then you get divorced. :aok
It's OK, these are things that improove with time, experienced buff hunters have learned to take out the trash, walk teh dog and/or do the dishes on climbout. :D
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Seems to be quite a few of you who enjoy it. A couple weeks ago we had a base pretty close to an enemy strat so I decided to up some b24s and have at it.
Got my first pass on target but immediately afterward I encountered resistance. Shot down two, turned back, and blew up some more targets before I started heading home. Ended up with 6 kills before I lost the last b24 to a p47 that I just couldn't get the lucky shot on with waning ammunition. I wanted so bad to return home after a sortie like that but they just wouldn't let up. Never expected such an exciting fight, though. Was a lot of fun.
Next time I hit a strat I guess I'll climb higher than 13K. :aok
Well, it's all a balancing game. Some of the more... adventuresome buff pilots in this game, intentionaly take full fuel loadouts and a realtively low cruising altitude (for the range they're flying) with the sole intent to hang around behind enemy lines for a long time and stir up some buff hunters. On the other side of the scale, you have buff pilots that take the least amount of fuel but maximum payload to achieve a certain stratospheric elevation, and to have the best/fastest speed (lightest weight) while making a straight line for their intended target/strats, with little left to turn straight back and try to make it home afterwards.
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I rarely go deep into enemy territory in b29's unless at 30k. It's fun playing chequers with enemy buff hunters watching their dar bars trying to anticipate my next target field.
Such missions are very long though and only tolerated when preparing and eating a meal or something during climb out.
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I rarely go deep into enemy territory in b29's unless at 30k. It's fun playing chequers with enemy buff hunters watching their dar bars trying to anticipate my next target field.
Such missions are very long though and only tolerated when preparing and eating a meal or something during climb out.
"Will tonight be a salisbury steak or prime-rib climbout, and a 12 or 18-pack sortie? Decisions, decisions..." :aok