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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: lulu on January 26, 2012, 12:26:40 AM
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Can't i hear an external airplane engine sound when it is 100 yrds far and my throttle is cut or low, or my head is turned?
I think that this is a better compromise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkWTI0NZXVA
Or not?
:salute
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What game was that?
Flight dynamics seemed OK, but didn't see reference to what it was.
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Can't i hear an external airplane engine sound when it is 100 yrds far and my throttle is cut or low, or my head is turned?
I think that this is a better compromise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkWTI0NZXVA
Or not?
:salute
No, your engine would entirely drown out any other, even at an idle.
This change was to stop people from making their engine noise silent so they could hear other's engines.
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I understand why you can't hear other engines when your engine is on. But the way they made it now you can't hear other engines when your engine is off. :huh
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Frankly this is another wish answered. Lulu is correct and you can verify it by watching any number of youtube videos recorded in the cockpit of P40s P63s Spits P51s B29s and B17s. I hadnt tried turning my engine off. Sounds still play fine in film viewer.
You can still hear gun fire.
The new 16" turret sound on the cruiser needs to be removed though. That will drive you away from the cruiser. Its just annoying and completely inaccurate.
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What game was that?
Flight dynamics seemed OK, but didn't see reference to what it was.
I think Warbirds of Prey
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This is how 109s should sound!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR0HOX-XZiI
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This is how 109s should sound!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR0HOX-XZiI
+1 give us some good sounds stock!
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+1 give us some good sounds stock!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8AZOTZll0s&feature=related
This sounds pretty good too.
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Please help me understand. What you are saying is that in real life when you are dogfighting a Bf-109K4, stall fighting so less then 100m's you would not hear the K4s engine screaming to get that last meter of altitude? Are you sure?
If that is accurate then there it is. I've never ridden in one of these high performance birds in real life so don't know though find it hard to believe we couldn't hear them. I will trust what others say but wonder...
Boo
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I wish HTC would put an Arena Message up for when people hopped in to the MA's they'd know right away of the issue. If I had $1 for everytime I've explained that since the new version I would have paid for a years worth of AH subscription. :)
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What ever game it is I like the modeling for the P-51D. It does not seem to fly like a dump truck.
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What ever game it is I like the modeling for the P-51D. It does not seem to fly like a dump truck.
It doesn't fly like one in AH.
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It doesn't fly like one in AH.
It does if you don't know how to fly it. :)
<---- not good in a pony, but seen some stuff a few times that made him say "wow."
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Please help me understand. What you are saying is that in real life when you are dogfighting a Bf-109K4, stall fighting so less then 100m's you would not hear the K4s engine screaming to get that last meter of altitude? Are you sure?
If that is accurate then there it is. I've never ridden in one of these high performance birds in real life so don't know though find it hard to believe we couldn't hear them. I will trust what others say but wonder...
Boo
From pilots that actually have flown these, yes that is true. The engine in front of you is so loud you can't hear anything else. Speed isn't a factor. You're sitting behind a 2000hp behemoth in most cases.
Try sitting in your car and revving the engine like you're going to drag race, peg the RPM... Now try to hear anything else BUT that. I think that may be a good analogy.
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I wish HTC would put an Arena Message up for when people hopped in to the MA's they'd know right away of the issue. If I had $1 for everytime I've explained that since the new version I would have paid for a years worth of AH subscription. :)
You mean spoonfeed people that don't bother to read the readme file that accompanies EVERY patch? Sorry, I'd rather not have to click "Ok" to close the popup window that tells people what they should already know.
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It does if you don't know how to fly it. :)
<---- not good in a pony, but seen some stuff a few times that made him say "wow."
I know, that's why I made the simple, generic reply. :) I think it's one of the most versatile planes in the game, but a lot of people think it's a one trick .... I can't say it. :lol
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From pilots that actually have flown these, yes that is true. The engine in front of you is so loud you can't hear anything else. Speed isn't a factor. You're sitting behind a 2000hp behemoth in most cases.
Try sitting in your car and revving the engine like you're going to drag race, peg the RPM... Now try to hear anything else BUT that. I think that may be a good analogy.
Good example, makes sense. Stall fighting with that K4 was creepy quiet. I don't like it though I will adjust.
Boo
PS So now that I have some knowledge base, which of the custom sound packs is the most accurate. I think I am using USRangers.
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Stall fighting with that K4 was creepy quiet.
Well, turn up the engine sounds! I never really understood why to turn them down. It's really a major part of my immersion to have proper sounds, so I turned it down a bit to better accommodate vox and to hear some damage sounds, but I never dropped below 75% or so.
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or you could just report it in the aces high bug reports forum.
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If that is accurate then there it is. I've never ridden in one of these high performance birds in real life so don't know though find it hard to believe we couldn't hear them. I will trust what others say but wonder...
I'd have to guess that the only time you'd hear the engine of another airplane would be at the moment of collision with it.
We couldn't hear the B-24 in this photo...even when we got in within about 10 feet of the tail.
(http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/bombpics/b24six.jpg)
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What game was that?
Flight dynamics seemed OK, but didn't see reference to what it was.
it is sturmovik 1946, the very first video I mean.
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that is a great online server btw
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Edit: never mind I misunderstood.
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I'd have to guess that the only time you'd hear the engine of another airplane would be at the moment of collision with it.
We couldn't hear the B-24 in this photo...even when we got in within about 10 feet of the tail.
(http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/bombpics/b24six.jpg)
Exactly.
I've been on the tarmac in a 152 with another 152 so close that our wingtips were only a few feet apart, couldn't hear the other plane at all.
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That's why many WW2 pilots suffered major mid-range hearing loss in later years.
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Gotta admit I'm going to miss the feedback it gave, but it wasn't right. I'm glad it's gone.
Wiley.
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"This change was to stop people from making their engine noise silent so they could hear other's engines."
From a certain point of view i agree with you Karnack, but i think that those people are shooten doen more
and no less. Because, it's really important to hear your engine. I had found a very good compromise.
I could hear enemy engine if and only if i was very very careful at they. In a furball for example it was quite unusefull, too much sounds from any directions.
But if i flew alone, i was able, if careull, to hear a con at 800 yrds back. With few chances if it was yet on my six o'clock.
These conditions are not a problem. If so why not disabling 'linda blair' view?
I still think that this think of sound it's exaggerated for planes.
what among a b17 storm? No sounds?
hmm ... !?
:salute
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if careull, to hear a con at 800 yrds back. With few chances if it was yet on my six o'clock.
Do you understand how far away 800 yards actually is? It's nearly half a mile. :bhead
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TY for replies.
From your answer, It seems quite impossible to hear another engine in real life - may be 2 or more ... :x
I liked this feature. It made the game less monotonous for me.
It gave an old film fashion character to this game ... brain is not all in life after all we also have a soul.
:salute
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hear from 800 yrds ... if u paied lot's of attention only !!! I set the damned think to hear fly by well but not so well from 800 yrds. It was very low from 800 yrds as i said and impossible to hear when in furballng firing at somebody or extending flaps. My Settings are about: myengine 90%; extengine less then 40%. If i remember right.
:salute
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About flight model -- somebody said something.
Ah flight model is good i think. If it does not work well for somebody, it's because your processor is busy ....
I had this problem for 2 years before to recognize it. In that condition all my planes did not working at
low and high speeds and flaps were not effective. I had a lot's of drag. My acceleration was very bad.
And my speed was for 5 to 15 miles per hour less then other players.
:salute
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WWII birds had no muffler much less an exhaust to speak of.
I don't like this change, but really, it's more accurate
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Please help me understand. What you are saying is that in real life when you are dogfighting a Bf-109K4, stall fighting so less then 100m's you would not hear the K4s engine screaming to get that last meter of altitude? Are you sure?
If that is accurate then there it is. I've never ridden in one of these high performance birds in real life so don't know though find it hard to believe we couldn't hear them. I will trust what others say but wonder...
Boo
I don't have the book open in front of me but in his book Col. Clarence "Bud" Anderson mentions that about all you could hear was your own engine and guns. He says that occasionally you'd hear the big caliber flak going off near you but if you did then it was REALLY close.
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P-51 ride along:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_KQyHGcIUY
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I cut my engine off and still couldn't hear other engines, I guess the whirring of my propellers is louder than I thought.
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I cut my engine off and still couldn't hear other engines, I guess the whirring of my propellers is louder than I thought.
Heh. Remember that you're still wearing a virtual headset with all the crap that comes through it under WWII technology standards. With a virtual leather cap strapped over the top of it, too!
- oldman
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P-51 ride along:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_KQyHGcIUY
If you watch the second video in that series, at about 3:15 into it, while they are warming the engine up and waiting for their turn to take off, there is a business jet that takes off. No where near 800 yards away. Never hear it at all.
During part 3, you can't hear the pilot talk at all. Heck you really don't even hear the guy with the camera on his head talk.
Great videos though! Watching part3, the aerobatics, I caught myself just smiling like I was in the plane myself.
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In the last film of the group you can hear the change in ambient noise as the flaps come down and then you can just make out the landing gear (sounds like a paper shredder). You could actually make sounds for AH with a ride like this and it would be really good except when you are in the tower and heard a P-51 go by you would not be happy with the sound. AH doesnt currently offer a wide enough range of source files to draw from in order to recreate the entire experience but I think they might be moving in that direction.
I dont think anyone wants complete accuracy either way. Can you imagine playing for hours on end and the entire time you are assaulted with audio like that?
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I dont think anyone wants complete accuracy either way. Can you imagine playing for hours on end and the entire time you are assaulted with audio like that?
The most common thing you'd hear over vox would be 'WHAT?!' :D
Wiley.
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Onboard in a skyraider. I can't imagine being able to hear anything else. There is some formation flying at the end of the video, you do not hear multiple engines.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Lz74M9v6w
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I had the pleasure in 1972/3 of meeting a gentleman at Santa Barbara Int'l Airport who had a p-38. There were several other 'warbirds' at that feild. When one of those others fired up you could hear it over ANYTHING else running,from anywhere on field,even at idle they were unmistakable , they included a couple P-51's, AT-6 and couple others lost to mists of time...
But when that P-38 coughed and lite it purred..P-51's have a rather short exhaust stack..few inches..no muffler, baby.The 38 runs exhaust back over engine to turbo-charger..was sweet sound.
JGroth
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P-51 ride along:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_KQyHGcIUY
Holy ***, holy ***, holy *** I want one!
And yes, on Part II you are unable to hear that jet take off, likely a hundred yards away. Surprising that even while the engine was in idle the gentleman on the wing had to scream goodbye. I think Aces High got this right.
Boo
Edit: I was truly born in the wrong decade.
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Back in the '80s I had the pleasure of knowing a handful of pilots at the local muni. They all flew aerobatic shows, and I got to fly out to one of their practices. I was in a Christian Eagle II, we were in a tight (5'-10' or so) 4-ship formation on the way out. Two Super Decathalons, one T-6 Texan and me and my pilot in the slot in the Eagle. Did I mention I was 5' from the other planes? Couldn't hear a dang thing other than my engine and the pilot in the headset.
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I think the 38 makes enough noise to mask approaching airplanes. It almost covers Mr. Ethells commentary and you have to remember too his power is back. Still more pleasant than most:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3nddCJbcdI&feature=related
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I find that the yappers or, more commonly known as play by play announcers, drown out any engine noise you may hear :P
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Apparently HiTech needs to visit this thread. New patch says that the new rules for engine sounds only applies to GVs apparently.
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You're not going to hear a darn ting except your own engine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiAIyX0l42M
In at least one incident a Spitfire pilot emptied his guns on the ground by mistake (or an electrical short) and he couldn't understand why the ground crew were waving at him and taking cover. :D
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Apparently HiTech needs to visit this thread. New patch says that the new rules for engine sounds only applies to GVs apparently.
No need, it's in the patch notes
Fixed a bug with the change to external engine sounds that kept it from working correctly. The change with external engine sounds only playing when your own engine is off only applies to vehicles.
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No need, it's in the patch notes
Apparently you misunderstood me. I think that the engine sound change should apply to aircraft also.
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Someone flying a storch with engine off at 40mph should be able to hear crickets chirping in the trees below.
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Apparently you misunderstood me. I think that the engine sound change should apply to aircraft also.
I did :rock nothing to see here, carry on...