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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: olds442 on February 06, 2012, 07:07:18 PM
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found this on a old topic.
Pyro: IMO, the P38 has the best flaps of all the fighters because it seems to me that they provide the best lift to drag ratio
Pyro: there are accounts that held that the P38 could turn even with the zeke with correct employment of the flaps
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Bullgator: the 38 turning with the zeke thing
Bullgator: was that an AW account or historical
Pyro: historical.
so um..yeah that dont happen here
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38s can do amazing things.
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found this on a old topic.
Pyro: IMO, the P38 has the best flaps of all the fighters because it seems to me that they provide the best lift to drag ratio
Pyro: there are accounts that held that the P38 could turn even with the zeke with correct employment of the flaps
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Bullgator: the 38 turning with the zeke thing
Bullgator: was that an AW account or historical
Pyro: historical.
so um..yeah that dont happen here
So um...yeah it does happen in here.
A well flown P-38 (any of the models) can turn with a Zeke 2 to 2.5 turns before it will start to lose ground and the Zeke will start to gain an angle. So it is imperative for the Lightning driver to get the kill within that time or they'll need to go into a shallow dive and extend and then reset the fight. However, at high speeds (above 325mph IAS) it is much easier to turn with a Zeke in a P-38 as at that speed and above, the Zeke's turning ability is lessened, while the P-38 has far better high speed performance and can turn with a Zeke if the speeds are kept high.
If you're gonna insist in turning with a Zeke, it's better to use vertical turns to use the superior vertical performance of the P-38 and not get into a flat horizontal turn fight with the Zeke.
ack-ack
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found this on a old topic.
Pyro: IMO, the P38 has the best flaps of all the fighters because it seems to me that they provide the best lift to drag ratio
Pyro: there are accounts that held that the P38 could turn even with the zeke with correct employment of the flaps
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Bullgator: the 38 turning with the zeke thing
Bullgator: was that an AW account or historical
Pyro: historical.
so um..yeah that dont happen here
Again, you show how much you don't know. AK-AK is right. Flying the 38 well is like shooting taters well. It's a skill that can be learned, if you take the time.
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Any plane flown correctly can do anything anyother plane can do and sometimes even better.
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Even I can make the 38 dance with a Zeke. Brief as it may be but it is very doable.
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a 38 can out turn a zeke at high speeds when the zekes controls get heavy, thats it as far as i know.
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Any plane flown correctly can do anything anyother plane can do and sometimes even better.
Anyone else laugh at this?
:noid
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Anyone else laugh at this?
:noid
he's right boss. once i got owned by a lanc while flying a zeke :cry. then again once i roped a p38 with my b26 :banana: :banana: :banana:.
semp
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Take an A6m5 to 25k in a P38L.
/clearly you haven't
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Anyone else laugh at this?
:noid
what's so funny :noidTake an A6m5 to 25k in a P38L.
/clearly you haven't
Can you get to 25 in a zeke?
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The 38 sucks.... we should all just ignore them in a furball.
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Re: intesting
So, what are you in testing for?
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found this on a old topic.
Pyro: IMO, the P38 has the best flaps of all the fighters because it seems to me that they provide the best lift to drag ratio
Pyro: there are accounts that held that the P38 could turn even with the zeke with correct employment of the flaps
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Bullgator: the 38 turning with the zeke thing
Bullgator: was that an AW account or historical
Pyro: historical.
so um..yeah that dont happen here
You are quoting me out of context. First, I do believe the chat you are referring to was about 20 years ago as a player in Air Warrior on flying the 38 and I think you're trying to present it as something else. Second, I didn't say that a P-38 using flaps could turn with a Zero, only that there were accounts of such. When asked if I was talking about an in-game account or a historical account, I replied that I meant historical. I did not opine on whether I thought that was correct or not or even exactly what that meant. It was to make the point that you could improve your 38 flying with the use of flaps.
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Any plane flown correctly can do anything anyother plane can do and sometimes even better.
Ok, out climb my k4 with your il2
fly your storch faster than my 262
:D
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Anyone else laugh at this?
:noid
Yeah you getting trolled lol.
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Ok, out climb my k4 with your il2
fly your storch faster than my 262
:D
Well both are really impossible, but if the il-2 or the storch flew to its advantage I don't see a reason that those planes won't get the kill.
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Don't think olds442 will be posting in this thread anytime soon.
ack-ack
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You are quoting me out of context.
flying the ... P-38 using flaps could turn with a Zero... I did... opine... I thought that was correct... you could improve your 38 flying with the use of flaps.
:devil
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Yeah you getting trolled lol.
Who is?
:noid
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Junky? Trolled? Nevah.
:noid
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Ok, out climb my k4 with your il2
fly your storch faster than my 262
:D
I have outclimbed a k4 and killed it with the il2. I have also flown faster than a 262 with many other planes, hell have overshot them many times. including once with a zero.
semp
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I have outclimbed a k4 and killed it with the il2. I have also flown faster than a 262 with many other planes, hell have overshot them many times. including once with a zero.
semp
You don't need to outclimb a K4 when you have 2 37mm sniper rifles!
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Junky? Trolled? Nevah.
:noid
Happy birthday yoski :aok
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Happy birthday yoski :aok
Thx. :)
How be you?
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Hows the barracks honestly think ing bout joining
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Again, you show how much you don't know. AK-AK is right. Flying the 38 well is like shooting taters well. It's a skill that can be learned, if you take the time.
QFT!!! This kid is a professor in rubbish , btw hasnt he quit 3 times this week???
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This thread is... intesting.
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Well both are really impossible, but if the il-2 or the storch flew to its advantage I don't see a reason that those planes won't get the kill.
That would assume that the opponent then flies his aircraft like a total retard. But really I mean worse so.
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Can you get to 25 in a zeke?
Yes, in particular the A6M3 and A6M5 both handle altitude quite nicely up to 20k, but are still reasonably usable at 25k, other than being slower than most any other fighter you'll meet up there. Certainly I would not want to be in an F4F, P-39 or P-40 engaged in a fight with an A6M3 or A6M5 at 25,000ft.
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i know pilots in here have said in 3-4 G maneuvers how can they even reach the flaps
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Thx. :)
How be you?
Home on March 1st....couldn't be better :aok
ACE...barracks are like dorm rooms....hopefully your too drunk to remember them too much :D
Yes, in particular the A6M3 and A6M5 both handle altitude quite nicely up to 20k, but are still reasonably usable at 25k, other than being slower than most any other fighter you'll meet up there. Certainly I would not want to be in an F4F, P-39 or P-40 engaged in a fight with an A6M3 or A6M5 at 25,000ft.
Have you gone to 25k in a zeak? That is actually impressive...too lazy for that nonsense :aok
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Yes, in particular the A6M3 and A6M5 both handle altitude quite nicely up to 20k, but are still reasonably usable at 25k, other than being slower than most any other fighter you'll meet up there. Certainly I would not want to be in an F4F, P-39 or P-40 engaged in a fight with an A6M3 or A6M5 at 25,000ft.
Karnak is correct.
The a6m is great at high altitudes.