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Title: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: blood_scout67 on February 16, 2012, 04:41:04 AM
crew 2
wingspan)11.89 m (39ft 4in)
length)  10.77 m (35ft 4in)
height)  4.39 m (14 ft 5 in)
max wieght) 3773 kg (8318 lb)
max speed) 489 km/h (304 mph)
armament) 6 or 8 .303 brownings 4 on the rear gunner
main use) a fighter in the battle of france
second use ) a escort plane for observer and liason planes
first flight 1937
service entry 1939
i have no other info on this plane expect its armor was the same as the hawker hurricane and was able to fly further
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: Noir on February 16, 2012, 04:55:40 AM
no thanks, there is a couple flyin coffins that I'd like to have before this one. The idea with the defiant was to kill enemy fighters with the upper back turret...the idea turned out to be not so good, resulting in the loss of most the defiants and their crew.
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: phatzo on February 16, 2012, 05:17:08 AM
no thanks, there is a couple flyin coffins that I'd like to have before this one. The idea with the defiant was to kill enemy fighters with the upper back turret...the idea turned out to be not so good, resulting in the loss of most the defiants and their crew.
true but it would be fun to go up with a gunner in that thing, it's a death trap but good for a bit of fun. DWMW
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: MAINER on February 16, 2012, 05:25:14 AM
true but it would be fun to go up with a gunner in that thing, it's a death trap but good for a bit of fun. DWMW

Long live DW
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: blood_scout67 on February 16, 2012, 07:28:50 AM
i been doing i bit of research and i found they were not as effective as the brits thought  :cry but i have found that they did have kills quite a few but not many plus they were annoying to the enemy bombers as they could weave into a formation and because of the rear gunner it damage the bomber before meeting a sticky end with a fighter but this is just what i read 
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: FLOTSOM on February 16, 2012, 08:43:04 AM
WOW!!! could you imagine how effective these would have been had they been armed with a pair of Hispano's in the turret and at least a couple of 50's in the wings for anti-ho defence??????

LONG LIVE THE MEMORY OF DW!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: MK-84 on February 16, 2012, 09:45:45 AM
So basically you want a plane for 999000 :D
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: FLOTSOM on February 16, 2012, 12:51:02 PM
So basically you want a plane for 999000 :D

well i would much rather deal with 1 plane and 1 set of 50's than 3 planes with a wall of lazer guided 50 fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: Butcher on February 16, 2012, 01:38:38 PM
Have a friend take up an SBD Dive bomber, and you try to gun in the rear, lets see how fast it takes you to change your mind....

-1 I have done this, while it does seem fun the first time you won't be doing it again.

Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: 1Nicolas on February 16, 2012, 04:17:12 PM
I think the tail gunner had nobody controlling it, like the flak in the practice
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: FLOTSOM on February 16, 2012, 04:24:06 PM
Have a friend take up an SBD Dive bomber, and you try to gun in the rear, lets see how fast it takes you to change your mind....

-1 I have done this, while it does seem fun the first time you won't be doing it again.



i was talking about facing 999 while he was flying one of these instead of his damnedable bomber formation with the lazers!!!!!
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: Bino on February 16, 2012, 08:07:11 PM
While the Defiant is indeed an interesting historical footnote, I think that you'll find nearly everybody who writes about WWII labels it a resounding failure as a warplane.  (Granted, it did have a few good moments as a target tug.)  Personally, I think Aces High will be more fun if it concentrates on the planes that were successful.
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: bangsbox on February 16, 2012, 08:13:46 PM
While the Defiant is indeed an interesting historical footnote, I think that you'll find nearly everybody who writes about WWII labels it a resounding failure as a warplane.  (Granted, it did have a few good moments as a target tug.)  Personally, I think Aces High will be more fun if it concentrates on the planes that were successful.


no i think the crap planes and successful planes should be added. besides though they might have been unsuccessful in the war, but in our hands it could be useful and defiantly fun. :aok
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: Guppy35 on February 16, 2012, 08:17:02 PM
While the Defiant is indeed an interesting historical footnote, I think that you'll find nearly everybody who writes about WWII labels it a resounding failure as a warplane.  (Granted, it did have a few good moments as a target tug.)  Personally, I think Aces High will be more fun if it concentrates on the planes that were successful.


read up on those poor guys who were sent up in daylight during the Battle of Britain.  They got slaughtered in only a couple of flights before having to be withdrawn from action.  No forward guns, and all that extra weight for the turret and gunner.  What were they thinking?
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: bangsbox on February 16, 2012, 08:40:44 PM
read up on those poor guys who were sent up in daylight during the Battle of Britain.  They got slaughtered in only a couple of flights before having to be withdrawn from action.  No forward guns, and all that extra weight for the turret and gunner.  What were they thinking?

this things going to be awesome :rock
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: Butcher on February 16, 2012, 09:04:14 PM
no i think the crap planes and successful planes should be added. besides though they might have been unsuccessful in the war, but in our hands it could be useful and defiantly fun. :aok

True, but if thats the case then Paul Defiant would be so far down on the list it would probably get ran over by the Fairey Battle.
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: blood_scout67 on February 17, 2012, 06:18:20 AM
read up on those poor guys who were sent up in daylight during the Battle of Britain.  They got slaughtered in only a couple of flights before having to be withdrawn from action.  No forward guns, and all that extra weight for the turret and gunner.  What were they thinking?
they did have front facing guns 2 but then was 4 for its mk2
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: Karnak on February 17, 2012, 08:56:43 AM
they did have front facing guns 2 but then was 4 for its mk2
No, the Defiant did not have any forward guns.
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: blood_scout67 on February 18, 2012, 03:57:01 PM
yes it does
on one of the models it does i have see a picture
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: Karnak on February 18, 2012, 04:00:08 PM
yes it does
on one of the models it does i have see a picture

Nope, never had forward firing guns.
Title: Re: BOULTON PAUL DEFIANT
Post by: blood_scout67 on February 19, 2012, 10:27:28 AM
yes it does on history of candian aviation poster you plainly see a gun near the nose