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Title: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: ozrocker on February 18, 2012, 10:06:18 AM
I mean, come on. In NJ they've got the flags half staff today for a Celebrity.
Ridiculous observation for something that's supposed to be done for heroes.


                                                                                                                                       :cheers: Oz
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: Tom5572 on February 18, 2012, 10:41:47 AM
I have to agree with you oz. She had a beautiful voice but failed as a positive influence.
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: Dichotomy on February 18, 2012, 11:38:38 AM
*two thumbs down

She was a celebrity not a national hero.
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: oakranger on February 18, 2012, 11:39:36 AM
I mean, come on. In NJ they've got the flags half staff today for a Celebrity.
Ridiculous observation for something that's supposed to be done for heroes.


                                                                                                                                       :cheers: Oz

Yea, that is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: bagrat on February 18, 2012, 11:51:28 AM
reminds me of this song, something "people like you more when you are gone, so why don't you kill yourself?"

besides if we lowered the flag for every actual hero, we may never raise the flag.
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: JunkyII on February 18, 2012, 12:10:27 PM
Who let this happen in NJ?
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: wil3ur on February 18, 2012, 12:11:10 PM
besides if we lowered the flag for every actual hero, we may never raise the flag.

 :aok

I'm not a peacenik by anymeans, nor am I an imperialist...  but I've long been of the opinion that our flags should be at half mast as long as we have soldiers dying in our country's wars.  It would be a reminder to all those who sit comfortably at home that sacrifices are being made every day.   :salute

Flying it half staff for Whitney Houston is a huge insult to anyone who's ever died defending this country and her honor.  I thought this was going to be a joke of some sorts when I read the tagline...  I guess it somewhat is.

  :mad:
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: Rich52 on February 18, 2012, 12:45:06 PM
Ever been to NJ? You wouldnt be so surprised if you had.
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: Tupac on February 18, 2012, 01:03:14 PM
Congratulations Whitney!!! One week drug free!!!
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: Krupinski on February 18, 2012, 01:09:51 PM
I saw a picture somewhere and it went something like this:

"Soldier who won the Medal of Honor, died to save his men,  forgotten by many the next day. " "Celebrity drug addict dies,  makes international news for a week strong,  and still going. "
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: Dichotomy on February 18, 2012, 01:53:07 PM


Flying it half staff for Whitney Houston is a huge insult to anyone who's ever died defending this country and her honor. .

  :mad:

This

Congratulations Whitney!!! One week drug free!!!

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTT TTTTT!!!!!!!!   :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

I'll send the invoice for cleaning cheap beer off my monitors, keyboard, CH gear, and walls to your address Tup ;)
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on February 18, 2012, 04:36:39 PM
Yup, my entire family is enraged that this happened.



Shes a dead drug abuser that had a carrier in music, that's ALL.




Other then singing the national anthem a few times, shes done nothing for this nation or our people, she only showed us what drug abuse can do to someone "some people" looked up to. But as a nation, our flags should have never been lowered for her.
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on February 18, 2012, 04:39:29 PM
but I've long been of the opinion that our flags should be at half mast as long as we have soldiers dying in our country's wars.  It would be a reminder to all those who sit comfortably at home that sacrifices are being made every day.


I would vote (yes) if this was ever in a poll of things to be changed, yes it would be constant reminder,and yes..like stated above..while the flag may never come back to full mast,but when it does..we are at peace, or at best..someone didn't die today.

 :salute
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: SEraider on February 18, 2012, 05:11:13 PM
Flags half-staff? 

Get her up on Mount Rushmore then.......

Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: kilo2 on February 18, 2012, 05:16:12 PM
I saw a picture somewhere and it went something like this:

"Soldier who won the Medal of Honor, died to save his men,  forgotten by many the next day. " "Celebrity drug addict dies,  makes international news for a week strong,  and still going. "


Way of the world.
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: Tec on February 18, 2012, 05:17:45 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7041/6899070207_f5750e36a2.jpg)
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: Flench on February 18, 2012, 05:31:33 PM
I mean, come on. In NJ they've got the flags half staff today for a Celebrity.
Ridiculous observation for something that's supposed to be done for heroes.


                                                                                                                                       :cheers: Oz
That's just unreal and sick to see .
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: henchman on February 18, 2012, 05:59:29 PM
Who let this happen in NJ?

Governor Chris Christie. Bad move on his part.
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: F22RaptorDude on February 18, 2012, 06:06:06 PM
Your honor, I call BS on the subject
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: Delirium on February 18, 2012, 06:27:59 PM
I don't remember a time the posters on this forum ever agreed on anything, this is a first.

Rather than use this as an educational tool to help prevent addiction, they glorified her in death.

Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: DREDIOCK on February 19, 2012, 08:51:43 AM
Governor Chris Christie. Bad move on his part.

Agreed. This move has probably had more negative effects on him then his latest veto.
I think the deal is because we did it for Clarence Clemmons. (which I also disagreed) with. but now a precedent has been set. American flag should be lowered for those that served the state or nation.
If they want to lower a flag in remembrance of someone famous from the state that died. They should lower the state flag. Would seem to make more sense.
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: DREDIOCK on February 19, 2012, 08:52:17 AM
Ever been to NJ? You wouldnt be so surprised if you had.

you dont want to get into this.
One of our women might hear of it and come and beat you up.
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: wil3ur on February 19, 2012, 09:01:10 AM
(http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/otrc/2010/photos/8473027_600x338.jpg)
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: PR3D4TOR on February 19, 2012, 04:54:04 PM
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Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: lmxar on February 19, 2012, 05:06:56 PM
That is insulting.
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: tassos on February 19, 2012, 06:24:47 PM
I mean, come on. In NJ they've got the flags half staff today for a Celebrity.
Ridiculous observation for something that's supposed to be done for heroes.


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Miss Houston Elisabeth Whitney was a hero in a other way,she brought happiness all around the world in the name of American Music and performans
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: PFactorDave on February 19, 2012, 06:28:00 PM
What else does New Jersey have to be proud of?   :bolt:
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: phatzo on February 19, 2012, 06:45:29 PM
What else does New Jersey have to be proud of?   :bolt:
Jersey Shore  :bolt:
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: PFactorDave on February 19, 2012, 06:49:35 PM
Jersey Shore  :bolt:

Exactly my point!   :rofl    :bolt:
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: Melvin on February 19, 2012, 06:51:03 PM
Barney Frank is from New Jersey.

 :bolt:
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: phatzo on February 19, 2012, 06:54:49 PM
Barney Frank is from New Jersey.

 :bolt:
It just gets better
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: PFactorDave on February 19, 2012, 07:03:15 PM
It just gets better

 :rofl
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: DREDIOCK on February 20, 2012, 07:27:54 AM
What else does New Jersey have to be proud of?   :bolt:

the light bulb. the phonograph. the movie industry.
Einstein. Bud Abbott comedian, Asbury Park
Charles Addams cartoonist, Westfield
Edwin Aldrin astronaut, Montclair
William Count Basie band leader, Red Bank
Joan Bennett actress, Palisades
Judy Blume author, Elizabeth
Jon Bon Jovi musician, Sayreville
William J. Brennan jurist, Newark
Aaron Burr political leader, Newark
Lloyd H. Conover inventor, Orange
James Fenimore Cooper author, Burlington
David Copperfield magician, Metuchen
Lou Costello comedian, Paterson
Stephen Crane writer, Newark
Helen Gahagan Douglas representative, Boonton
Allen Ginsberg poet, Newark
Savron Glover choreographer, Newark
William Frederick Halsey, Jr. admiral, Elizabeth
Lauryn Hill rapper, South Orange
Donald Fletcher Holmes inventor, Woodbury
Ice-T rapper, Newark
Alfred Joyce Kilmer poet, New Brunswick
Alfred C. Kinsey zoologist, Hoboken
Ernie Kovacs comedian, Trenton
Dorothea Lange photographer, Hoboken
Jerry Lewis comedian, film director, Newark
Anne Morrow Lindbergh author, Englewood
Norman Mailer author, Long Branch
James W. Marshall discovered gold in California, Hunterdon
Patricia McBride ballerina, Teanick
Eger V. Murphree inventor, Bayonne
Jack Nicholson actor, Neptune City
Dorothy Parker author, West Bend
Zebulon Mongomery Pike explorer, soldier, Lamberton
Joe Piscopo comedian, actor, Passaic
Paul Robeson singer, actor, Princeton
Edward J. Rosinski inventor, Gloucester County
Philip Milton Roth author, Newark
Ruth St. Denis dancer, choreographer, Newark
Antonin Scalia jurist,Trenton
Norman Schwarzkopf army general, Trenton
Frank Sinatra singer, actor, Hoboken
Kevin Spacey actor, South Orange
Bruce Springsteen musician, Freehold
Amos Alonzo Stagg football coach, West Orange
Alfred Stieglitz photographer, Hoboken
Meryl Streep actress, Summit
Albert Payson Terhune journalist, author, Newark
Dave Thomas restaurateur, Atlantic City
William Henry Vanderbilt financier, New Brunswick
Sarah Vaughan singer, Newark
Dionne Warwick actress, singer, East Orange
William Carlos Williams physician, poet, Rutherford
Ray Liotta actor, Newark
Edmund Wilson literary critic, author, Red Bank

Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: AHTbolt on February 20, 2012, 08:38:31 AM
Pisses me off.
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: SmokinLoon on February 20, 2012, 08:59:09 AM
Here is South Dakota, the governor orders Old Glory to half mast whenever a member, former or present, of the SD Legislature passes away.  Same goes for any peace officer who died in the line of duty. 

I think the governors should be able to command state flags be at half mast for a state "hero" or other such dignified person, but not Old Glory.  The U.S. flag should be reserved for *nation* people in dignified positions, and the length of time at half mast should depend on who it was.  Medal of Honor recipients, US Presidents, and maybe a handful of others should get 20 days +, congress-critters 10 days +, and others 5 days.

IMO, Whitney Houston, no matter how beautiful of a voice she had, did not deserve having Old Glory at half mast.  However,... under the present system I can see why Gov. Christie did so.       
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: Shuffler on February 20, 2012, 10:13:37 AM
They put the flag at half mast for most anyone or anything these days.

It no longer means anything.
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: SEraider on February 20, 2012, 12:00:07 PM
the light bulb. the phonograph. the movie industry.
Einstein. Bud Abbott comedian, Asbury Park
Charles Addams cartoonist, Westfield
Edwin Aldrin astronaut, Montclair
William Count Basie band leader, Red Bank
Joan Bennett actress, Palisades
Judy Blume author, Elizabeth
Jon Bon Jovi musician, Sayreville
William J. Brennan jurist, Newark
Aaron Burr political leader, Newark
Lloyd H. Conover inventor, Orange
James Fenimore Cooper author, Burlington
David Copperfield magician, Metuchen
Lou Costello comedian, Paterson
Stephen Crane writer, Newark
Helen Gahagan Douglas representative, Boonton
Allen Ginsberg poet, Newark
Savron Glover choreographer, Newark
William Frederick Halsey, Jr. admiral, Elizabeth
Lauryn Hill rapper, South Orange
Donald Fletcher Holmes inventor, Woodbury
Ice-T rapper, Newark
Alfred Joyce Kilmer poet, New Brunswick
Alfred C. Kinsey zoologist, Hoboken
Ernie Kovacs comedian, Trenton
Dorothea Lange photographer, Hoboken
Jerry Lewis comedian, film director, Newark
Anne Morrow Lindbergh author, Englewood
Norman Mailer author, Long Branch
James W. Marshall discovered gold in California, Hunterdon
Patricia McBride ballerina, Teanick
Eger V. Murphree inventor, Bayonne
Jack Nicholson actor, Neptune City
Dorothy Parker author, West Bend
Zebulon Mongomery Pike explorer, soldier, Lamberton
Joe Piscopo comedian, actor, Passaic
Paul Robeson singer, actor, Princeton
Edward J. Rosinski inventor, Gloucester County
Philip Milton Roth author, Newark
Ruth St. Denis dancer, choreographer, Newark
Antonin Scalia jurist,Trenton
Norman Schwarzkopf army general, Trenton
Frank Sinatra singer, actor, Hoboken
Kevin Spacey actor, South Orange
Bruce Springsteen musician, Freehold
Amos Alonzo Stagg football coach, West Orange
Alfred Stieglitz photographer, Hoboken
Meryl Streep actress, Summit
Albert Payson Terhune journalist, author, Newark
Dave Thomas restaurateur, Atlantic City
William Henry Vanderbilt financier, New Brunswick
Sarah Vaughan singer, Newark
Dionne Warwick actress, singer, East Orange
William Carlos Williams physician, poet, Rutherford
Ray Liotta actor, Newark
Edmund Wilson literary critic, author, Red Bank



Something in this century please....  I'd hold off on the rappers personally.  :D
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: Flench on February 20, 2012, 12:03:58 PM
Did they ever say what she died of ?
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: Pollock on February 20, 2012, 12:10:54 PM
Ever been to NJ? You wouldnt be so surprised if you had.
left the peoples socialist state of whaaa!! I'm entitled  and sensitive to everything offends me 20 years ago. But they do have nice beaches.
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: grizz441 on February 20, 2012, 12:11:52 PM
Even if she was not a drug user and had died by other means, I still do not see why entertainers other than maybe a very select few who have done an extraordinary amount of volunteer work with the troops abroad should be honored by the half mass flag.
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: Pollock on February 20, 2012, 12:13:32 PM
the light bulb. the phonograph. the movie industry.
Einstein. Bud Abbott comedian, Asbury Park
Charles Addams cartoonist, Westfield
Edwin Aldrin astronaut, Montclair
William Count Basie band leader, Red Bank
Joan Bennett actress, Palisades
Judy Blume author, Elizabeth
Jon Bon Jovi musician, Sayreville
William J. Brennan jurist, Newark
Aaron Burr political leader, Newark
Lloyd H. Conover inventor, Orange

nice list !
James Fenimore Cooper author, Burlington
David Copperfield magician, Metuchen
Lou Costello comedian, Paterson
Stephen Crane writer, Newark
Helen Gahagan Douglas representative, Boonton
Allen Ginsberg poet, Newark
Savron Glover choreographer, Newark
William Frederick Halsey, Jr. admiral, Elizabeth
Lauryn Hill rapper, South Orange
Donald Fletcher Holmes inventor, Woodbury
Ice-T rapper, Newark
Alfred Joyce Kilmer poet, New Brunswick
Alfred C. Kinsey zoologist, Hoboken
Ernie Kovacs comedian, Trenton
Dorothea Lange photographer, Hoboken
Jerry Lewis comedian, film director, Newark
Anne Morrow Lindbergh author, Englewood
Norman Mailer author, Long Branch
James W. Marshall discovered gold in California, Hunterdon
Patricia McBride ballerina, Teanick
Eger V. Murphree inventor, Bayonne
Jack Nicholson actor, Neptune City
Dorothy Parker author, West Bend
Zebulon Mongomery Pike explorer, soldier, Lamberton
Joe Piscopo comedian, actor, Passaic
Paul Robeson singer, actor, Princeton
Edward J. Rosinski inventor, Gloucester County
Philip Milton Roth author, Newark
Ruth St. Denis dancer, choreographer, Newark
Antonin Scalia jurist,Trenton
Norman Schwarzkopf army general, Trenton
Frank Sinatra singer, actor, Hoboken
Kevin Spacey actor, South Orange
Bruce Springsteen musician, Freehold
Amos Alonzo Stagg football coach, West Orange
Alfred Stieglitz photographer, Hoboken
Meryl Streep actress, Summit
Albert Payson Terhune journalist, author, Newark
Dave Thomas restaurateur, Atlantic City
William Henry Vanderbilt financier, New Brunswick
Sarah Vaughan singer, Newark
Dionne Warwick actress, singer, East Orange
William Carlos Williams physician, poet, Rutherford
Ray Liotta actor, Newark
Edmund Wilson literary critic, author, Red Bank


Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: VonMessa on February 20, 2012, 12:50:27 PM
Miss Houston Elisabeth Whitney was a hero in a other way,she brought happiness all around the world in the name of American Music and performans

I like Gyros, but I'm not flying my flag at half-mast for them.

We'll send you her dried-up carcass and YOU can fly YOUR flag at half-mast for her.
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: Flench on February 20, 2012, 01:10:15 PM
I like Gyros, but I'm not flying my flag at half-mast for them.

We'll send you her dried-up carcass and YOU can fly YOUR flag at half-mast for her.
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHAAA!!!!!!
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: jimbo71 on February 20, 2012, 02:39:57 PM
Take back Joe Piscopo


the light bulb. the phonograph. the movie industry.
Einstein. Bud Abbott comedian, Asbury Park
Charles Addams cartoonist, Westfield
Edwin Aldrin astronaut, Montclair
William Count Basie band leader, Red Bank
Joan Bennett actress, Palisades
Judy Blume author, Elizabeth
Jon Bon Jovi musician, Sayreville
William J. Brennan jurist, Newark
Aaron Burr political leader, Newark
Lloyd H. Conover inventor, Orange
James Fenimore Cooper author, Burlington
David Copperfield magician, Metuchen
Lou Costello comedian, Paterson
Stephen Crane writer, Newark
Helen Gahagan Douglas representative, Boonton
Allen Ginsberg poet, Newark
Savron Glover choreographer, Newark
William Frederick Halsey, Jr. admiral, Elizabeth
Lauryn Hill rapper, South Orange
Donald Fletcher Holmes inventor, Woodbury
Ice-T rapper, Newark
Alfred Joyce Kilmer poet, New Brunswick
Alfred C. Kinsey zoologist, Hoboken
Ernie Kovacs comedian, Trenton
Dorothea Lange photographer, Hoboken
Jerry Lewis comedian, film director, Newark
Anne Morrow Lindbergh author, Englewood
Norman Mailer author, Long Branch
James W. Marshall discovered gold in California, Hunterdon
Patricia McBride ballerina, Teanick
Eger V. Murphree inventor, Bayonne
Jack Nicholson actor, Neptune City
Dorothy Parker author, West Bend
Zebulon Mongomery Pike explorer, soldier, Lamberton
Joe Piscopo comedian, actor, Passaic
Paul Robeson singer, actor, Princeton
Edward J. Rosinski inventor, Gloucester County
Philip Milton Roth author, Newark
Ruth St. Denis dancer, choreographer, Newark
Antonin Scalia jurist,Trenton
Norman Schwarzkopf army general, Trenton
Frank Sinatra singer, actor, Hoboken
Kevin Spacey actor, South Orange
Bruce Springsteen musician, Freehold
Amos Alonzo Stagg football coach, West Orange
Alfred Stieglitz photographer, Hoboken
Meryl Streep actress, Summit
Albert Payson Terhune journalist, author, Newark
Dave Thomas restaurateur, Atlantic City
William Henry Vanderbilt financier, New Brunswick
Sarah Vaughan singer, Newark
Dionne Warwick actress, singer, East Orange
William Carlos Williams physician, poet, Rutherford
Ray Liotta actor, Newark
Edmund Wilson literary critic, author, Red Bank


Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: Delirium on February 20, 2012, 08:08:17 PM
I still do not see why entertainers other than maybe a very select few who have done an extraordinary amount of volunteer work with the troops abroad should be honored by the half mass flag.

Only one that I can think of completely deserving is Bob Hope.

I remember my grandfather telling me stories of how they literally corralled him and his company inside a chain link fence as the officers on site were nervous there would be deserters. Feeling like animals, they noticed one guy arguing with the highest ranking officer on site. A few minutes later, a makeshift stage was placed over one end of the fence and that same argumentative guy walked over. Turns out it was Bob Hope who did an impromptu show for all the men there, after ensuring creature comforts of home (donuts and coffee primarily) were ordered over from a nearby base. Hope wasn't assigned to that area that day, he just happened to drive by the situation and decided to do his duty and attempt to make the troops forget where they were and where they were going, even if for a short time.
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: DREDIOCK on February 20, 2012, 08:08:40 PM
Take back Joe Piscopo



why?
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: AWwrgwy on February 20, 2012, 09:30:36 PM
Was watching Ken Burn's Baseball documentary lasy night.

They flew flags at half mast when Babe Ruth died.

Also
When Elvis died.
When Clarence Clemons died.
When Michael Jackson died.

Who was the last person you can remember the Flag was flown mast for before Whitney?



wrongway


Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: wil3ur on February 20, 2012, 10:31:09 PM
Reagan as I can recall...
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: jimbo71 on February 21, 2012, 11:26:39 AM
why?


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-CDzDpSdzY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Song lyric (Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers) around 1:35
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: 68ZooM on February 21, 2012, 11:32:25 AM
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s35/68zoom/beirber.jpg)
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: FYB on February 21, 2012, 03:37:08 PM
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s35/68zoom/beirber.jpg)
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Flags at Half for Whitney Houston
Post by: tassos on February 29, 2012, 04:07:43 PM
 :aok
I like Gyros, but I'm not flying my flag at half-mast for them.

We'll send you her dried-up carcass and YOU can fly YOUR flag at half-mast for her.