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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: YamaRaja on February 18, 2012, 11:45:35 AM

Title: Rudder pedals
Post by: YamaRaja on February 18, 2012, 11:45:35 AM
Does anyone know if there are rudder pedals available out there that are better than the pedals by CH Products or Saitek?

I have CH pedals and they are a bit to close together for me.

Thanks
Yama
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: PFactorDave on February 18, 2012, 11:47:52 AM
Does anyone know if there are rudder pedals available out there that are better than the pedals by CH Products or Saitek?

I have CH pedals and they are a bit to close together for me.

Thanks
Yama

I use a set of Saitek pedals, for about three years now.  The stance is wider then the CH pedals, which is why I went with the Saitek pedals.  I'm really interested in the newer Saitek Combat Pedals.  If my pedals ever wear out I will probably upgrade to the Combat pedals...


http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/compedals.html
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: Reschke on February 18, 2012, 12:12:11 PM
I have had TM RCS (upgraded with Hall Sensors and loved them but sold them), have had CH pedals (they were good just to narrow for me) and both Saitek pedals the Pro and the Combat. I liked the Pro but I LOVE THE COMBAT. The Combat pedals absolutely remind me of the TM RCS pedals in their stance but with better ergonomics. I used to have to adjust my chair position all the time with the TM RCS and Saitek Pro pedals but with the Combat pedals I was able to adjust the angle of the foot part and that is all I have had to do. Best pedals I have ever used but I haven't been able to get my hands on a set of Hoffman pedals from Germany yet. They are a little more pricey than what I want to spend on them.
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: SIK1 on February 18, 2012, 12:21:37 PM
Simpeds are nice, but pricey.

http://www.dhs-electronic.de/index2.php?id=216&lng=en
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: steely07 on February 18, 2012, 05:30:38 PM
+1 for the Simpeds, i've had mine for 2 years, and they've never needed extra calibration, or shown any signs of wear.
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: lulu on February 19, 2012, 04:40:16 AM
I suggest to try to build them using anoher joystick.

 :salute
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: wabbit on February 19, 2012, 09:14:21 AM
+2 for Simped pedals. I've had mine for about a year now and I love them! The service and support from Simped is extraordinary!


Wabb
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: 68valu on February 19, 2012, 10:12:30 AM
I suggest to try to build them using anoher joystick.

 

It could be done, using the analog inputs from a twisty stick, but the cost for a home built set comparable to a commercially made set would probably be far higher.

I have been using the same set of saiteks for 4 years with no problems as yet and I fly nearly every day!

                                                                                                                                          68valu
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: Mace2004 on February 20, 2012, 04:30:15 PM
How do the Simpeds compare with the Saiteks?  My Saitek pedals work well but they creak and groan as the plastic flexes and the pedals slide or you push the toe brakes.  Not exactly the highest quality construction but typical of Saitek's products, i.e., good for the price but not world-beaters by any means.  I'm planning on upgrading from an X-52 Pro to a Warthog (once they fix the bushing issue) and wouldn't mind doing the same with the rudder pedals.
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: SIK1 on February 21, 2012, 07:35:33 PM
I've never had Saitek pedals, so I can't say how the Simpeds compare.
I came over from CH pedals. I find the Simpeds a little, (and I mean tiny bit) more comfortable than the CH because of the wider stance. Both are stable, both have toe brakes, and both work reliably, for me. I've had the CH pedals for eight years, and the only problem I had was the right toe brake quit working. The Simpeds I've had for just over a year, and they work great. I've only calibrated them the one time when I installed them.   
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: Bino on February 22, 2012, 08:57:25 AM
...
I've had the CH pedals for eight years, and the only problem I had was the right toe brake quit working
...

Exactly the same thing happened to mine!  I've just been too lazy to pop them open and try to fix 'em.

I, too, miss the wide stance and solid construction of the old pre-Guillemot ThrustMaster Rudder Control System pedals. 
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: SIK1 on February 22, 2012, 07:21:07 PM
I did pop my CH peds open, and it wasn't a broken wire as I thought it would be, but a bad pot.

That's another thing, the Simpeds toe brakes are switches, either off or on, where the CH uses a potentiometer.
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: Cheese on February 23, 2012, 08:03:18 AM
Here's what I did...but I left off the toe brakes.   I did allow for them in my design if I want to add them later...

Total Cost - about $25 for a Saitek GT290 joystick.

http://flightsim.com/main/howto/rudtoe.htm (http://flightsim.com/main/howto/rudtoe.htm)
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: Reschke on February 23, 2012, 08:41:07 AM
I'm planning on upgrading from an X-52 Pro to a Warthog (once they fix the bushing issue) and wouldn't mind doing the same with the rudder pedals.

I hate to jump off here but what "bushing issue" are you talking about with the Warthog?

About the pedals I have really enjoyed using my Combat Pedals and they are light years above and beyond the Pro Pedals in feel and function.
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: Pollock on February 23, 2012, 11:03:12 AM
I hate to jump off here but what "bushing issue" are you talking about with the Warthog?

About the pedals I have really enjoyed using my Combat Pedals and they are light years above and beyond the Pro Pedals in feel and function.

I think he is referring to saitek and not thrustmaster not sure of any bushings in wearing.
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: Silat on February 23, 2012, 02:42:55 PM
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/silat13/GAMING/DSCF2959.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/silat13/GAMING/DSCF2960.jpg)
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: Mace2004 on February 23, 2012, 03:02:51 PM
I hate to jump off here but what "bushing issue" are you talking about with the Warthog?

About the pedals I have really enjoyed using my Combat Pedals and they are light years above and beyond the Pro Pedals in feel and function.
The Warthog has a three-part laminated bushing (or "ring") in the base that appears to load the stick for resistance and centering force.  Delamination has become a common problem that TM doesn't appear to have fixed.  People are replacing the OEM item with a new one cut out of a single piece of PTFE plastic.  Go to Warthogworld.com and you can see the details.
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: Mace2004 on February 23, 2012, 03:12:31 PM
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/silat13/GAMING/DSCF2959.jpg)

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g130/silat13/GAMING/DSCF2960.jpg)
OK, I'll bite Lew, what pedals are those and how much?  Love the construction.
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: The Fugitive on February 23, 2012, 04:54:49 PM
OK, I'll bite Lew, what pedals are those and how much?  Love the construction.

All I can find is this Russian page http://www.vkb-flightsimcontrols.com/produkt/pedal.php
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: SIK1 on February 23, 2012, 06:44:12 PM
OK, I'll bite Lew, what pedals are those and how much?  Love the construction.

Yeah, those are some good looking pedals. :O

I wish I hadn't seen them now.  :uhoh

How much, and where can you get them? :bolt:
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: Bruv119 on February 23, 2012, 07:44:59 PM
even have holes for heels trust Silat!    ;)
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: steely07 on February 23, 2012, 09:40:42 PM
More info needed for sure Silat!
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: Gman on February 24, 2012, 01:15:11 PM
I've had both of the CH pedal types, the narrow, and the REALLY narrow, as well as the older Saiteks.

http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/compedals.html

These are the newer Saitek's I bought with my Warthog setup (yes, I'm one of 'those' guys who bought those peds with that HOTAS).

I've never had the chance to try the SIMpeds, in fact I've never seen a set, and I'm going to get a hold of some asap for comparison, I've ordered a set of the F16USB pedals. That said, the new Saitek combat peds are a huge leap forward from the older saitek pedals and the CH ones in terms of materials and workmanship that they are worth the extra 100 dollars and then some.  They do have a larger footprint then the other types of pedals, so be warned if you have a small desk or space you are working in.
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: Silat on February 29, 2012, 12:38:55 AM
I am currently in talks with the Ruskies about these pedals and will relay all info when I get it. Talking on Skype with the designer owner and waiting to talk to the business end in the next week.
$$$$$$ $400 + But they sure are beautiful.
Title: Re: Rudder pedals
Post by: steely07 on February 29, 2012, 01:50:37 AM
I am currently in talks with the Ruskies about these pedals and will relay all info when I get it. Talking on Skype with the designer owner and waiting to talk to the business end in the next week.
$$$$$$ $400 + But they sure are beautiful.

subscribed to thread and waiting on more info Silat, they look like excellent pedals indeed!