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Title: We won!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on March 01, 2012, 10:35:19 AM
US finally beat Italy yesterday, first time in the history of them playing against each other, and in a stadium that Italy has never lost to anyone in.

Score was 1-0 with Clint Dempsey scoring in the 55th minute.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCW61Eycwps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCW61Eycwps)

Also, the United States U23 squad (Basically the Olympic squad) beat Mexico 2-0 with a header in the 35' by Agudelo. Diskerud scored on a rebound of Freddy Adu's attempt only 1 minute after.


Other fixtures:
Germany 1:2 France
Netherlands 3:2 England
Columbia 2:0 Mexico
Argentina 3:1 Switzerland  with a hat trick by Messi (Big surprise :rolleyes:)
Scotland 1:1 Slovenia

United States next match is against Scotland on the 26th or March.
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: texasmom on March 01, 2012, 11:44:49 AM
Bravo!  Wtg Usa! 
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: Shuffler on March 01, 2012, 11:52:55 AM
Umm won what?
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on March 01, 2012, 11:57:04 AM
Umm won what?

If you looked at the link or read the post it's fairly obvious. Was an International friendly match vs Italy.
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: shiv on March 01, 2012, 12:02:06 PM
Italy had the majority of chances and the goal was somewhat against the run of play, but still the US played well, especially against a team as talented as Italy.

Only a friendly, but it does look like Klinsmann's strategy of playing the top teams whenever possible is paying dividends. The US looked composed on the ball and seemed to able to handle the pace of the game. Looking good for the World Cup qualifiers starting in June.



 
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on March 01, 2012, 12:02:39 PM
Also, highlights from the matches

US vs Italy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqCBhCLLc9I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqCBhCLLc9I)


US U23 v Mexico U23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBU3xEkxK7U&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBU3xEkxK7U&feature=related)
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: Shuffler on March 01, 2012, 12:19:13 PM
If you looked at the link or read the post it's fairly obvious. Was an International friendly match vs Italy.

Not obvious from the post... did not click link.

But since no one answered... one of the posts said goal so I'll guess soccer.  

Intersting the US wining as it is not big at all over here.
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: sunfan1121 on March 01, 2012, 12:40:38 PM
Not obvious from the post... did not click link.

But since no one answered... one of the posts said goal so I'll guess soccer.  

Intersting the US wining as it is not big at all over here.
Soccer is big in the US, just not at the pro level. More kids play soccer in the US than any other sport.
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: helbent on March 01, 2012, 12:41:20 PM
DUH, beer pong shuff.

35' header is impressive feat in beer pong
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: dedalos on March 01, 2012, 12:56:32 PM
Intersting the US wining as it is not big at all over here.

 :lol  310,000,000 people could produce 11 good players whether you think soccer is big here or not.  See, size does matter.    :O  :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: Bruv119 on March 01, 2012, 01:07:04 PM
well done USA    :cheers:    :salute
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: Shuffler on March 01, 2012, 01:11:40 PM
Soccer is big in the US, just not at the pro level. More kids play soccer in the US than any other sport.
True I guess... the YMCA had a soccer league for the kids.
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: Spikes on March 01, 2012, 02:09:27 PM
I like watching the replays watching people fall then blame some other player.
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: dedalos on March 01, 2012, 02:23:04 PM
I like watching the replays watching people fall then blame some other player.

I call BS.  Those are real fouls  :old:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvYDyrEVatI

Title: Re: We won!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on March 01, 2012, 02:58:27 PM
Intersting the US wining as it is not big at all over here.

The only other sports leagues in the US with more spectators than Major League Soccer is the NFL and MLB. I think it's quite big.
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: sunfan1121 on March 01, 2012, 03:14:20 PM
The only other sports leagues in the US with more spectators than Major League Soccer is the NFL and MLB. I think it's quite big.
no way Jose. When was the last time MLS was on a major network? I guarantee more people watched the Daytona 500 then all the MLS games combined.
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on March 01, 2012, 03:45:18 PM
no way Jose. When was the last time MLS was on a major network? I guarantee more people watched the Daytona 500 then all the MLS games combined.

Daytona Speedway has a capacity of 167,800.

In 2011, the average attendance for a MLS game was approximately 17,800 (rounded down to this number).

Considering that there were 306 MLS games played that season, that is a total of about 5,446,800 attendance for the whole season. Actually it should be a bit more than that since I rounded down.

So you are guaranteeing that 167,800 people is more than 5 million?  :rofl

 :ahand
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: dedalos on March 01, 2012, 03:46:20 PM

So you are guaranteeing that 167,800 people is more than 5 million?  :rofl

Sounds like he made a right turn somewhere  :O
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: sunfan1121 on March 01, 2012, 03:57:14 PM
Daytona Speedway has a capacity of 167,800.

In 2011, the average attendance for a MLS game was approximately 17,800 (rounded down to this number).

Considering that there were 306 MLS games played that season, that is a total of about 5,446,800 attendance for the whole season. Actually it should be a bit more than that since I rounded down.

So you are guaranteeing that 167,800 people is more than 5 million?  :rofl
14.2 million people watched the Daytona 500 on tv. That's what I was getting at.
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on March 01, 2012, 04:00:49 PM
14.2 million people watched the Daytona 500 on tv. That's what I was getting at.
Alright, you may argue TV in this as well, then lets do the math.

Daytona 500 2012 had approximately 14.2 million viewers that watched at least a portion of the race. (Portion being as little as two minutes).

In order for MLS to equal that, it would have to be only 46,000 viewers per game on television, while in reality it averages over 250,000 with 622,000 people watching the game between the Chicago Fire and New York Red Bulls last June, and that wasn't even the cup finals.

So, with an average of 250,000 x 306 games, that is 76,000,000

76million > 14.2million

Please back up your assumptions with facts next time.

 :ahand
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on March 01, 2012, 04:03:26 PM
Also, read this

http://www.epltalk.com/dispelling-the-myth-that-soccer-is-not-big-in-america-36718 (http://www.epltalk.com/dispelling-the-myth-that-soccer-is-not-big-in-america-36718)
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: sunfan1121 on March 01, 2012, 04:04:30 PM
Alright, you may argue TV in this as well, then lets do the math.

Daytona 500 2012 had approximately 14.2 million viewers that watched at least a portion of the race. (Portion being as little as two minutes).

In order for MLS to equal that, it would have to be only 46,000 viewers per game on television, while in reality it averages over 250,000 with 622,000 people watching the game between the Chicago Fire and New York Red Bulls last June, and that wasn't even the cup finals.

So, with an average of 250,000 x 306 games, that is 76,000,000

76million > 14.2million

Please back up your assumptions with facts next time.

 :ahand
All 306 games are televised? I didnt know any sport did that.
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on March 01, 2012, 04:07:49 PM
All 306 games are televised? I didnt know any sport did that.

Fair enough. But even if only 20% of games were televised, even that would be more than the 14.2 million.
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: kilo2 on March 01, 2012, 04:27:10 PM
Fair enough. But even if only 20% of games were televised, even that would be more than the 14.2 million.

75,000 is the average for the FSC which airs most of the games. The espn broadcast which are few and far between average 250,000.

Title: Re: We won!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on March 01, 2012, 04:30:38 PM
75,000 is the average for the FSC which airs most of the games. The espn broadcast which are few and far between average 250,000.



Well, I am a bit embarrassed, my sources seem to be off on that one. But using those numbers, using 75,000 as the average and not even counting the ESPN or other major network coverage, the 14.2 needed to surpass sunfans claim is reached with only 60% of the MLS games being covered.

Right now I can't find out how many of MLS's games were televised in 2011, if someone could help me, that would be great.
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: ScottyK on March 01, 2012, 04:36:02 PM
  I will be at the Portland Timbers vs LA Galaxy game on July 14th.  :rock


  As far as the win goes for the US, its huge, especially against a powerhouse like Italy.
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on March 01, 2012, 04:46:56 PM
  I will be at the Portland Timbers vs LA Galaxy game on July 14th.  :rock


  As far as the win goes for the US, its huge, especially against a powerhouse like Italy.

I hate the Galaxy, but that's just because I'm a San Jose fan.
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: ScottyK on March 01, 2012, 04:48:37 PM
  I will be Boooing everytime Landon Donovan touches the ball. :devil
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: Rich52 on March 01, 2012, 04:54:10 PM
Fair enough. But even if only 20% of games were televised, even that would be more than the 14.2 million.

I didnt know any Fire games were televised and I live here. And compareing the popularity of soccer to Baseball in America would be kinda hysterical.

It must be a good game, much of the world is mad about it. Chicago sure isnt tho.
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: kilo2 on March 01, 2012, 04:55:39 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=soccer&id=6109058

I think only 21 games aired on espn.

Title: Re: We won!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on March 01, 2012, 05:06:10 PM
What about on FS? I think most were.
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: shiv on March 01, 2012, 05:34:01 PM
What about on FS? I think most were.

FSC had an MLS game of the week every Saturday along with the ESPN2 MLS game of the week. And most (all?) teams also had their games on TV locally. MSG carried RBNY and NESN had the Revs for example.

MLS is still not a major sports league but they've done an excellent job surviving. Mainly by building soccer-specific stadiums and the single entity structure.
Title: Re: We won!
Post by: Pigslilspaz on March 01, 2012, 07:16:33 PM
MLS is still not a major sports league but they've done an excellent job surviving. Mainly by building soccer-specific stadiums and the single entity structure.

SJ is finally getting a home in 2013!

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