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Title: useing a views with out track IR with a joystick.
Post by: olds442 on March 11, 2012, 02:58:19 PM
hello, i got my x52 pro joystick working (saitek messed up the wiring but what ever) and i love it but im having a problem how do you use views?

when i flew mouse and keyboard only i could easly use the view system with the number pad. but now its hard to do that with the big X52 pro on my little desk. i dont have track ir if you couldnt tell. i hear some people use the 8 way hat switches for views but how do u look up or half left with this config please help anyone who has a joystick but no track ir for views.
Title: Re: useing a views with out track IR with a joystick.
Post by: PFactorDave on March 11, 2012, 03:02:13 PM
Map them to the hat switch and map the pinky switch to be the look up.
Title: Re: useing a views with out track IR with a joystick.
Post by: The Fugitive on March 11, 2012, 03:10:41 PM
How long have you been here? 80% of players use the hat switches on their sticks. The other 20% are split between TrackIR and keyboard.

Here try this http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/views/views.htm
Title: Re: useing a views with out track IR with a joystick.
Post by: olds442 on March 11, 2012, 07:01:46 PM
How long have you been here? 80% of players use the hat switches on their sticks. The other 20% are split between TrackIR and keyboard.

Here try this http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/views/views.htm
ive been here 4 years but intil now i never commited to flying with stick.
Title: Re: useing a views with out track IR with a joystick.
Post by: JOACH1M on March 12, 2012, 07:10:05 AM
How long have you been here? 80% of players use the hat switches on their sticks. The other 20% are split between TrackIR and keyboard.

Here try this http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/views/views.htm
I use keyboard trackir makes me dizzy and hat switches suck  :lol
Title: Re: useing a views with out track IR with a joystick.
Post by: prono on March 13, 2012, 06:51:22 AM
I use keyboard trackir makes me dizzy and hat switches suck  :lol

How do you operate throttle ?
Title: Re: useing a views with out track IR with a joystick.
Post by: pembquist on March 13, 2012, 10:50:52 AM
ive been here 4 years but intil now i never commited to flying with stick.

This is a skill I find very impressive.  I tried mouse flying and it was like being in a nightmare, the one where I'm being chased by bears on an ice skating rink while wearing flip flops.
Title: Re: useing a views with out track IR with a joystick.
Post by: Butcher on March 13, 2012, 10:53:54 AM
I agree, I use a mouse for tanking and buff gunning (due to the sensitivity of the mouse being greatly lowered I have a more accurate movement then a joystick due to the dampening)

Title: Re: useing a views with out track IR with a joystick.
Post by: JOACH1M on March 13, 2012, 01:50:10 PM
How do you operate throttle ?
I use it very easily with my free hand. I will quickly move move hand to look for you then I predict your flight path by just knowing where my flight path is going to put me.
Title: Re: useing a views with out track IR with a joystick.
Post by: lengro on March 13, 2012, 02:00:11 PM
...the one where I'm being chased by bears on an ice skating rink while wearing flip flops.

 :lol
Title: Re: useing a views with out track IR with a joystick.
Post by: Traveler on March 13, 2012, 11:24:30 PM
mouse is very easy to use, just think of the mouse as the top of the stick.
Title: Re: useing a views with out track IR with a joystick.
Post by: bbosen on March 16, 2012, 04:05:23 PM
hello, i got my x52 pro joystick working (saitek messed up the wiring but what ever) and i love it but im having a problem how do you use views?

when i flew mouse and keyboard only i could easly use the view system with the number pad. but now its hard to do that with the big X52 pro on my little desk. i dont have track ir if you couldnt tell. i hear some people use the 8 way hat switches for views but how do u look up or half left with this config please help anyone who has a joystick but no track ir for views.

I use the numeric keypad just like you have preferred. That frees up the joystick hat switches for additional functions, giving me a big advantage in combat. Here's a picture of the way I map things:

(http://TechVideoReview.com/FlightSimMovies/General/ControlsAndCockpits/AcesHighControls.jpg)

You could map your X52 Pro hatswitches in pretty much the same pattern and get the same advantages. See the videos on this page for more details:

http://techvideoreview.com/FlightSimMovies/AcesHigh/Training/AcesHighTrainingByPeabodyPage02Full.htm

This system also gives you convenient access to a lot of "Extra" views that are not generally known to those using a more conventional system limited to hat switches, as you can see from the video clips on this page:

http://techvideoreview.com/FlightSimMovies/AcesHigh/Training/AcesHighTrainingByPeabodyPage06Full.htm
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Title: Re: useing a views with out track IR with a joystick.
Post by: Spork on March 21, 2012, 08:17:19 PM
I don't like that set up bbosen has. You have no hands free to communicate. How are you going to tell your friendlies quickly where Charlie is? Communication must be at your fingertips. It is vital. I use the same stick and put all my views on the hatswitch with an "Up" option on the buttons giving me plenty of view to track all my cons. The 3 different zoom buttons on his hat swtich are just wasted space. You only need the toggle and you have 4 other button on the hatswitch not even being used, ie. NW NE SE SW.

I have updated the picture with my scheme. It serves me well.

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p618/jqadams48/MyControls.jpg)


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Spork
Title: Re: useing a views with out track IR with a joystick.
Post by: titanic3 on March 22, 2012, 07:51:20 AM
For me, my right hand is on the stick, left hand does everything else. My throttle is right behind the stick (a small lever attached to the stick). 99% of my throttle work is when the target is already in my sights. The way I do it, I can jump between throttle, numpad, and vox in 2 seconds. I also have hat switches, so I can always keep an eye on them while working throttle.
Title: Re: useing a views with out track IR with a joystick.
Post by: cohofly on March 22, 2012, 09:38:56 AM
I use the D button on the X52 throttle as my "look up" view button. I find this works quite well with the hat switch with the 8 views. Do you use the Saitek software?? As I am only using the throttle(Saitek) I find it works quite well.
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Carver
Title: Re: useing a views with out track IR with a joystick.
Post by: olds442 on March 23, 2012, 08:43:19 PM
i have found the pink switch as looking up and the hat swicth for every thing else works really good
Title: Re: useing a views with out track IR with a joystick.
Post by: bbosen on March 24, 2012, 04:18:09 PM
I don't like that set up bbosen has. You have no hands free to communicate. How are you going to tell your friendlies quickly where Charlie is? Communication must be at your fingertips. It is vital.
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Spork

I hear ya. As a general rule, I use "TeamSpeak" to communicate, and it has voice activation so I can talk without ever pressing any  buttons. When I rely on Aces High radios, I re-map the "hat back" for "Push-to-talk" instead of "Toggle Combat Trim".