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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: PFactorDave on March 16, 2012, 06:04:31 PM
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ATTENTION ALL DOG FIGHTERS CLUB Members And Anyone Wishing to Join the Dog Fighters Club's Dueling Ladder!!!
Season 2 of The Dog Fighters Club Dueling Ladder will begin on April 7th, 2012.
Initial ladder placement will be by random draw. To be included in this initial random draw all fighters MUST CHECK IN inside the CHECK IN thread in the Dog Fighters Club Forum NO LATER then March 31st, 2012.
Anyone who checks in after March 31st, 2012 will be placed at the bottom of the ladder. You MUST check in using the correct thread to be included in the initial ladder placement.
Inactive members are encouraged to Check In as well, confirming your inactive status and your BBS and In Game names. This will insure that you maintain access permissions to the DFC forum.
Anyone wishing to join the DFC's Dueling Ladder can request to join in this thread and access will be granted to the DFC Forum. Or send a PM to Ink, PFactorDave, or Slash27 to request access.
ALSO: During Season 2, we will be enforcing the minimum duels rule. All participants MUST compete in a minimum of 1 duel per month. Failure to duel will result in dropping 3 ranks in the ladder automatically. These ladder demotions will occur on the 7th of each month, no exceptions. You duel, or your rank drops. The demotions will occur from the bottom of the ladder upwards. The enforcement of this rule is intended to keep the ladder constantly in motion throughout the ranks.
A reminder of the rules.
Dueling Ladder General Rules: Season 2, Starting April 7th 2012
1. May challenge up to 4 spots above on the ladder.
2. May issue challenges up to 3 times per week, no repeat challenges.
3. Challenges shall be posted in the Ladder Thread, but PM's are encouraged.
4. Challenges may not be declined. A mutually agreeable time must be agreed upon and
occur within a one week time span from the issuance of the challenge. Failure to complete
a challenge will result in an automatic loss for the Challengee.
5. Results must be posted in the Ladder Thread by the loser, as simple as "I lost" or a
complete writeup... have fun with it.
6. Record film from takeoff until 5 seconds past the kill message. Victor must be in
controlled flight for these 5 seconds, at which point they must auger, ditch or bail.
7. The winner of the challenge will retain the higher ranked rung, loser will retain lower rung.
8. At least one challenge per month must be issued or a player will be considered inactive.
Inactive players will drop three rungs per month per ADS*
a. If you have defended a Challenge within the week, you do not need to initiate a Challenge for purposes of
ADS.
9. Initial rankings will be based on random draw. New players joining after this draw will be
placed at the bottom of the ladder.
10. The top spot may challenge anyone else on the ladder and is not limited by the 3 slot
rule. If they lose they switch rungs with the winner.
11. A Ladder software program will be utilized to test it's feasibility. For now it will be
handled manually.
a. Wins and loses will be displayed by date/time of duel.
b. A ranking system based off wins and loses will be given.
Dueling Ladder Rules of Engagement
1. All duels will occur in the DA in the low, mid or high alt field areas.
2. Number of fights is determined by the rung of the challenger
a. Ranked 20+ will be best of 3.
b. Ranked 6 - 19 will be best of 5.
c. Ranked 1 - 5 will be best of 7.
3. The Challenger has choice of the first plane, loser subsequently.
a. Only fighters may be chosen.
b. Fuel will be 25% - if both run out of fuel, the duel will be re-done.
c. Guns/ammo loadout personal choice unless mutually agreed upon. No restrictions on emptying
ammo.
4. Challenger will have initial choice of fields to use, then loser subsequently.
a. There will be a +3k above chosen field altitude, pre-icon alt-cap. For example if the
fields are 2k, the alt-cap is 5k.
b. Neither may exceed this alt-cap until icon is acquired, at which point pilots may begin
maneuvering and anything goes.
5. HO's are not expressly forbidden, but excessive use may result in ejection from the
ladder. Front Quarter shots are what they are, deal with it.****
6. Neither may extend beyond 2.5k icon range from their opponent. Doing so results in an
automatic loss.
7. Collisions at initial merge result in a draw and shall be re-fought. Collisions after the
initial merge shall stand, unless both parties agree to a do-over.
8. Disconnects will be considered a random mechanical failure and result in the loss of
that fight.but there is nothing prohibiting the two from agreeing to re-fight, but it's the non-disco person's choice.
9. F3 mode... don't even - auto ejection from ladder.
Dueling Ladder TOP DOGs (Rungs 1 - 3) Rules
1. First player to win 3 consecutive matches moves to Rung #3
2. First player to win 4 consecutive matches moves to Rung #2
3. First player to win 5 consecutive matches moves to TOP DOG, Rung #1
4. This gives all players a chance at the start of the season an opportunity to obtain these
positions. Once the TOP DOG rungs have been filled, all players must win their way up the
ladder in typical challenge fashion.
* Automatic Degradation System: All Ladder Duelers must Duel at least once per month in
order to maintain their place. For every month they do not Duel, they will move down 3
rungs. Example: If the order of the Duelers is INK,Prono,Irishone,Zoney,Debrody.... and
INK and Irishone do not duel in that month, the new order would be Prono, Zoney, INk,
Debrody, Irishone,
**** More on the "HO" shot......this Ladder is for those of us that enjoy a fight, for those of
us who want to get better at ACM, to be able to fight those that you may not get a chance
to in the arenas without being horded.....so if we as a Dueling community feel someone is
not here for the right reasons. i.e., a good fight.....and they choose to just HO every fight
without any ACM....an ejection thread will be started we will try to encourage this individual
to change his ways if they still refuse and just HO every fight they will be ejected from the
Ladder. Again, the HO shot is just a coin toss.....it has NO PLACE in a dueling Ladder
where good fights are expected.
GET INTO THE DFC FORUM AND CHECK IN FOR SEASON 2 NOW!!!
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guys who love the fight.....good times to be had :rock
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+1 :aok
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Who were the top 5 of season 1?
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Who were the top 5 of season 1?
Season isn't officially over yet, the top five as of March 6th are:
Top Dog Bruv
2nd Sunsfan
3rd Shane
4th Simon
5th IrishOne
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I think I fought about 7 or 8 duels last season and everyone was a good one.
The standard of sportsmanship in the DFC is second to none in my experience. Every fight more than fair and both competitive and friendly which is rare.
I would advise anyone who wants to improve thier dog fighting skills to sign up.
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Not like I have room to talk but I thought the first rule of fight club was...don't talk about fight club. I forgot what the second rule was. But since I don't make the rules... :banana: :bolt:
Boo
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Not like I have room to talk but I thought the first rule of fight club was...don't talk about fight club. I forgot what the second rule was. But since I don't make the rules... :banana: :bolt:
Boo
that was the first lame rule I threw out :aok
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I'd like to take part in the fights, as long as I can do it on my intermittent schedule.
I haven't seen much drama over this ladder and it definitely has peaked my interest. :aok
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I'd like to take part in the fights, as long as I can do it on my intermittent schedule.
I haven't seen much drama over this ladder and it definitely has peaked my interest. :aok
I have added you to the DFC forum. Please Check In for Season 2 in the stickied thread. Intermittent is ok as long as you understand that by the rules you must duel at least once per month and you must accept challenges from other participants.
I don't expect any problems as long as you go into it with those understandings.
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I have added you to the DFC forum. Please Check In for Season 2 in the stickied thread. Intermittent is ok as long as you understand that by the rules you must duel at least once per month and you must accept challenges from other participants.
I don't expect any problems as long as you go into with those understandings.
DOH I thought he was on the forum :o
sorry DEL totally my fault
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DOH I thought he was on the forum :o
sorry DEL totally my fault
I asked to be removed, quietly, a long time ago because of some of the drama. It looks like that is the thing of the past and I hope to die horribly and be at the very bottom of the ladder. :D
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I want in :x
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I want in :x
You have been added to the DFC Forum. Please Check In by posting the required info in the Season 2 Check In thread stickied near the top. Be sure to read and understand the rules. And a reminder to all who are interested, save the drama for your mama. DFC is about the fight.
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I asked to be removed, quietly, a long time ago because of some of the drama. It looks like that is the thing of the past and I hope to die horribly and be at the very bottom of the ladder. :D
I wont take no crap...if you cause drama(not you...anyone) they will be gone as quick as it takes to hit delete.
some very good fights to be had...... very tough opponents :rock
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//shameless promo alert//
Its the most fun i have ever had in AH (maybe scenarios come close).
If you got any ambition to fight fair, even 1v1s with friends, feel free to join.
:aok
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Maybe I shouldn't ask here but...
Standard duel is same bird. What about dissimilar ACM? Why or why not? In reading Debrody's post I had the thought of something that allowed certain contemporary advesaries to duke it out. K-4 versus Spit 16 or PonyD, or certain Japanese birds versus F6F or F4U. Maybe half a dozen historically accurate combos are formed then combatants can agree to duel from those combos. I think it would be awesome to try and tie Debrody's Hungarian G6(?) up with its historical advesary and see who loses the most parts. (Flame away!)
Boo
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Those are good fun, Boo, but are unsuitable to decide who is the top dog.
For example, a historically accurate 109K vs ponyD 1v1, the 109 will win 9/10
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Maybe I shouldn't ask here but...
Standard duel is same bird. What about dissimilar ACM? Why or why not? In reading Debrody's post I had the thought of something that allowed certain contemporary advesaries to duke it out. K-4 versus Spit 16 or PonyD, or certain Japanese birds versus F6F or F4U. Maybe half a dozen historically accurate combos are formed then combatants can agree to duel from those combos. I think it would be awesome to try and tie Debrody's Hungarian G6(?) up with its historical advesary and see who loses the most parts. (Flame away!)
Boo
I have been considering doing a dueling ladder in favorite rides, it is something that may happen in the future.
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I have been considering doing a dueling ladder in favorite rides, it is something that may happen in the future.
When the time comes for variety, I would like to see a version where the matches work like this...
- Match consists of 10 rounds.
- Each Pilot chooses his own aircraft and loadout from the fighter hangar each round
- A pilot is not allowed to repeat an aircraft, the the ten rounds will be ten different aircraft
- Neither pilot knows what the other guy is flying until first merge
- Winner is the pilot with the most wins after ten rounds
- An 11th round tie breaker is used in the event of a 5 to 5 tie
I've played duels this way numerous times in the DA over the years and find it very fun. It is also an effective way to force yourself to learn the strengths and weaknesses of the different aircraft and how they relate to an opponents strengths and weaknesses.
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When the time comes for variety, I would like to see a version where the matches work like this...
- Match consists of 10 rounds.
- Each Pilot chooses his own aircraft and loadout from the fighter hangar each round
- A pilot is not allowed to repeat an aircraft, the the ten rounds will be ten different aircraft
- Neither pilot knows what the other guy is flying until first merge
- Winner is the pilot with the most wins after ten rounds
- An 11th round tie breaker is used in the event of a 5 to 5 tie
I've played duels this way numerous times in the DA over the years and find it very fun. It is also an effective way to force yourself to learn the strengths and weaknesses of the different aircraft and how they relate to an opponents strengths and weaknesses.
that's not a bad idea ether...but that is totally different then a "favorite ride" type fight.
personally I like the favorite ride idea. but no reason we couldn't have different type of ladders...if this ladder keeps going strong we will have more then one ladder going before too long.
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PFD, that might end in an "ENY5 battle", as the f4u4, tempest, spit16, la7 etc etc would be totally dominant.
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PFD, that might end in an "ENY5 battle", as the f4u4, tempest, spit16, la7 etc etc would be totally dominant.
You would think, but in my experience it doesn't play out that way.
But if you wanted to avoid that, you could make a rule that says each pilot has 120 ENY points (just a semi-random number I chose for this discussion) that he must use during the course of the 10 rounds. In that scenario, a guy could fly say 5 ENY 5 aircraft to burn 25 points, but then he would have to burn through the other 95 points over the last five rounds. See what I am saying.
At any rate, this is really a topic for a future thread and not this one.
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jup, gotcha
sounds like a very interesting tactical battle.
Got to try it with the squaddies this evening :aok
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I'd be very interested in the 'favorite ride' of dueling, then again, I have little interest in most aircraft other than my P38. I'd rather have a good fight vs a good stick in a La7/Spit16/P51/109K than have a fight where both aircraft have similar flight characteristics.
An exception to this would the fight my P38 had with Gianlupo some time ago; while we had similar aircraft, but it was the most gruelling and enjoyable fight I've ever had in Aces High.
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PFD, that might end in an "ENY5 battle", as the f4u4, tempest, spit16, la7 etc etc would be totally dominant.
each one of those are easy to kill :D
give me one hurri2C....the monster slayer
I'd be very interested in the 'favorite ride' of dueling, then again, I have little interest in most aircraft other than my P38. I'd rather have a good fight vs a good stick in a La7/Spit16/P51/109K than have a fight where both aircraft have similar flight characteristics.
An exception to this would the fight my P38 had with Gianlupo some time ago; while we had similar aircraft, but it was the most gruelling and enjoyable fight I've ever had in Aces High.
thats what we have been trying to provide...those fights that last with you long after they are over :rock
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each one of those are easy to kill :D
give me one hurri2C....the monster slayer
thats eny8 :P
gimme a 109F and i pwn your hurri :old:
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thats eny8 :P
gimme a 109F and i pwn your hurri :old:
see how the favorite rides could work..... :D
you are good...very good, but I still think my hurri will own that 109 :D
we certainly can test it out :rock
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I think I want to try this.. Looks like great fun, and I get to test myself against superior dogfighters I have never fought before. Seems like a great way to die in flames.. :aok :D
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we certainly can test it out :rock
sure! :cheers:
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I think I want to try this.. Looks like great fun, and I get to test myself against superior dogfighters I have never fought before. Seems like a great way to die in flames.. :aok :D
You have been added to the DFC Forum. Please go there and post the required info in the Season 2 Check In thread stickied near the top. Be sure to read the rules and ask questions if there is anything you don't understand.
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You have been added to the DFC Forum. Please go there and post the required info in the Season 2 Check In thread stickied near the top. Be sure to read the rules and ask questions if there is anything you don't understand.
Thanx PFactorDave. :salute
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Dave is on top of that watermelon :rock
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Turned out that Hurri>109...
was fun!
:cheers:
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Turned out that Hurri>109...
was fun!
:cheers:
yes it was :salute
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Dave is on top of that watermelon:rock
Just trying to help out.
Almost 30 pilots have checked in so far with several new faces in the DFC. Don't forget, the cut off to get into the initial seeding of Season 2's Ladder is March 31st.
Don't wait, get checked in soon!
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. double
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... triple
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Add me to the dfc forum. Thanks.
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Add me to the dfc forum. Thanks.
You've been added. Be sure to post the required info in the Season 2 Check In thread stickied near the top!
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Just a reminder to everyone. The cut off to get in on the initial ladder seeding is March 31st and the season will begin April 7th. If you miss the deadline you can still join the ladder but will start at the very bottom.
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we got a bunch of new names...gonna be a great season guys....I see so much talk about wanting a good fight....this is where its at :rock
hell even if you don't like me its all good I have no problem killin yer arse :devil
seriously it is a great time.... :aok
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Please add me. Don't know where the DFC forum is.
My in game name is Midway, but I'm on a secret shady vacation until mid-April. Must I reveal my secret shady name before then? :frown:
Thank you. :)
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Please add me. Don't know where the DFC forum is.
My in game name is Midway, but I'm on a secret shady vacation until mid-April. Must I reveal my secret shady name before then? :frown:
Thank you. :)
you are added look down on the bottom of the forums it will be there.
and you are welcome :aok
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Please add me. Don't know where the DFC forum is.
My in game name is Midway, but I'm on a secret shady vacation until mid-April. Must I reveal my secret shady name before then? :frown:
Thank you. :)
You must reveal your in-game name when you check in for the season. No exceptions. There were too many problems before because people couldn't be contacted.
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Time is running out to be included in the initial seeding for Season 2 of the Dog Fighters Club Dueling Ladder. We currently have 40 pilots checked in.
Dueling is a fantastic way to improve your dog fighting skills and the DFC Dueling Ladder gives you the opportunity to duel some of the most skilled pilots in Aces High (and some of the not so skilled, like myself).
You must be Checked In by March 31st to get seeded. Anyone who Checks In after the 31st will be placed at the bottom of the ladder.
If you are already a DFC member, go to the DFC Forum and look for the Season 2 Check In thread stickied near the top. If you would like to become a member of the DFC, you can send a PM to Ink or PFactorDave to be granted access.
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This league should be a prerequisite for anyone interested in learning the art of 1v1s or honing their dueling skills to a "T"
If a relative noob like Yours Truly can fight my way to the top 5, there's hope for everyone.
Plus it's a really great way to get to know all those "famous" players who's reputations are generally very different than their real personalities :aok
A special call-out to ex-FA'ers to get in on this!
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This league should be a prerequisite for anyone interested in learning the art of 1v1s or honing their dueling skills to a "T"
If a relative noob like Yours Truly can fight my way to the top 5, there's hope for everyone.
Plus it's a really great way to get to know all those "famous" players who's reputations are generally very different than their real personalities :aok
A special call-out to ex-FA'ers to get in on this!
I remember when you first got here.....you have progressed awesomely :aok
its an Honor(oh there's that word again) to have you in the DFC and the Ladder.
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I believe I'd like to register. Dueling's probably the weakest link in my 'game', may as well do something about it.
Wiley.
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I believe I'd like to register. Dueling's probably the weakest link in my 'game', may as well do something about it.
Wiley.
awesome man glad to have ya
look for the DFC forum adding ya now, find teh Check in thread and post ingame name and BBS name.
welcome Aboard :salute
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would be great to see some youtube vids of these fights. . .
best of luck and talent to those brave fighters!!
:salute
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:noid :noid :noid Am I to late? :x :x :x
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:noid :noid :noid Am I to late? :x :x :x
hell no :aok
will add ya to the forum, same thing look for Check in thread Post ingame name and BBS name....
in like flynn
welcome aboard
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I'd like to join, if it's ok to not be particularly good.
I don't suppose there's a 2v2 ladder?
THanks for running this!
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I'd like to join, if it's ok to not be particularly good.
I don't suppose there's a 2v2 ladder?
THanks for running this!
the only way to get better is to fly against someone better :aok
i will add ya to the forum, go to "check in" thread and post ingame name and BBS name before the 31st
as of now no 2vs2 ladder.