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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Yarbles on March 22, 2012, 12:43:07 PM
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I dont work in IT or understand much about it. I spent about £200 up gradeing my stuff in january and was able to load high res and have detailed map and water as well and a really good frame rates. Lately my rate is getting worse and worse and I am hainving to switch things off. Every day people are complaining to me about the same thing and they have higher end computers. These people are now talking about packing it in and going to world of tanks becase they think nothing is going to be done about it.
I think its a shame if something can be done that it isn;t being if it can't well baring in mind people have spent allot more money than I am willing to on their rigs eg $1500 and still arnt happy I will wait until the game is unplayable and then try world of tanks myself.
What have others expererience been?
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I haven't seen much change in my frame rates. I've got v-sync forced on, so it pegs out at 60. Sometimes it drops to the low 50's or high 40's for brief periods. I've got nothing special; GTX260 vid card and a dual-core Intel processor with 4Gb RAM on Windows 7.
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No problems ever since. Turning down ground clutter helped with stutter for me a bit. Try different drivers, go in your GFX panel and mess with the settings, see if it helps. Vsync on or off, turn off AA. Defrag, disk clean up, clear registries.
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It's been said that the game takes 10% more ressources whatever you detail settings are since patch 2. Its expected but not communicated to the players and it is a shame.
check this thread, you may find a few clues
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,330249.0.html
I myself spent about 180€ upgrading my computer just to experiment FPS issues that I didn't have before.
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I dont work in IT or understand much about it. I spent about £200 up gradeing my stuff in january and was able to load high res and have detailed map and water as well and a really good frame rates. Lately my rate is getting worse and worse and I am hainving to switch things off. Every day people are complaining to me about the same thing and they have higher end computers. These people are now talking about packing it in and going to world of tanks becase they think nothing is going to be done about it.
I think its a shame if something can be done that it isn;t being if it can't well baring in mind people have spent allot more money than I am willing to on their rigs eg $1500 and still arnt happy I will wait until the game is unplayable and then try world of tanks myself.
What have others expererience been?
frame rate for me with has been at 59-60 with all details on h res texture pack@ 2048 texture's 2048 Shadow textures and all sliders maxed. they have been going further down all the way to 25 then i reinstalled the game and they are back up to 59-60fps very weird
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frame rate for me with has been at 59-60 with all details on h res texture pack@ 2048 texture's 2048 Shadow textures and all sliders maxed. they have been going further down all the way to 25 then i reinstalled the game and they are back up to 59-60fps very weird
Is it because of your overclocking?
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My last purchase
€ 700 new computer
€ 150 Joystick
€ 190 TrackIR 5
But I can not play :mad:
I do not pleasure looking for other drivers. Why?
Before that everything was fine
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My last purchase
€ 700 new computer
€ 150 Joystick
€ 190 TrackIR 5
But I can not play :mad:
I do not pleasure looking for other drivers. Why?
Before that everything was fine
if you took the time to actually look for a solution I'm sure we could work something out.
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what exactly is in your computer? after the last update my fps actually improved to where i play with shadows at 4096. and to be honest with you I play with 60 fps with 3 screens in aces high, but in world of tanks using 3 screens my fps drop to the 20-30's.
if you have an nvidia card there was a driver update that greatly improved performance. it was released about 2 weeks ago. it's the 296.10, perhaps you should upgrade them.
semp
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I couldn't afford to upgrade my 2005 dell so I thought I was SOL when these new versions came out. But to my suprise and following performance tips in the support forums here I am able to run game ok. I also loaded the latest drivers from Nvidia, cleaned up the hard drive, and limited the amount of processes running during play.
When hearing the problems with others who did spend good money on thier rigs can there be other issues?
Is running windows 7 a problem? It seems to do alot more in the background. I have XP at home and W7 at work.
There is a thread on this topic in the support forums.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,330249.0.html
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I have a phenom quad core
8GB of memory
HD6970
Acer predator pc
I have hi res, self shadows on, ground clutter on.
Local reflections are nice but will vastly reduces frame rates .
60fsp is usual :)
I still think my pc is 4 years old and regardless of upgrades is starting to show its age.
I know that you can get obsessive over frame rates if your not carful, stable frame rates is the main aim I think.
You can have that 550ti Yarbles :) (if you repent from your wickedness)
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Most of the time it is your settings and not the game. You are the only one I have seen threaten to pack it in and go to a xbox type game with no planes.
If you really like flying I'd suggest investigating and trying some changes other than just shutting visual quality down.
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The new version drastically reduced my frame rates & increased stutters. I have turned off ground clutter, reduced res, went to 512 textures, turned off AA, updated to the drivers that semp suggested. Doesn't seem to have made much difference. Before the last update I had things ramped up pretty good & used hires text, AA, etc.. Was a huge hit for me with the new version. Glad some of you guys have good enough systems to play the game with all of the eye candy. I didn't see anything wrong with the way it was before. At least I could enjoy the graphics then. :cry
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The new version drastically reduced my frame rates & increased stutters. I have turned off ground clutter, reduced res, went to 512 textures, turned off AA, updated to the drivers that semp suggested. Doesn't seem to have made much difference. Before the last update I had things ramped up pretty good & used hires text, AA, etc.. Was a huge hit for me with the new version. Glad some of you guys have good enough systems to play the game with all of the eye candy. I didn't see anything wrong with the way it was before. At least I could enjoy the graphics then. :cry
Call us, there is no reason you should see much of a change in frame rate then previously.
HiTech
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My frame rate was 60 before this last patch now it is in single digits. I reloaded the game and that did help. I run the game with everything turned off on 512. I don't have the best video card it is a GForce-8400 with a 4GB computer and fiber optic connection. As for World of Tanks I did not like it it only has mouse play no joy stick. All the tanks have an icon and the artillery is as deadly and bombs in Aces High. The game play in Aces High is far superior. However I was in a large squad (SOAR) that all the members of it are in WoT now except me and That can have it.
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Most of the time it is your settings and not the game. You are the only one I have seen threaten to pack it in and go to a xbox type game with no planes.
It wasn't a threat you drama queen :D
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You can have that 550ti Yarbles :) (if you repent from your wickedness)
:lol
Pray for me.
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It wasn't a threat you drama queen :D
I didn't make your statement... :D
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haven't seen a change in frame rates since i got my computer 2 years ago.
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Why does nobody ever mention bus speed in these threads?
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anyone notice anything different between the Pacific / Euro terrains. Frame rate wise?
Or is it just my imagination.
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i miss you Bruv :)
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i miss you Bruv :)
have you tried practising offline with drones? .target 1000 old chap :old:
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Why does nobody ever mention bus speed in these threads?
Speed of which bus? FSB, memory, PCI, PCI-E, school?
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:O The little yellow bus! :O
Usually a constant 59/60 here. When in crowded areas, 30's to 40's. Lots of disco's though IMHO.
Asus M5A97 MoBo
Phenom II x6 1100 cpu
16gb (1600) ram
Win 7
9800 series nvidia card
24TB in 9 HDD's
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I challenge anyone to have 60fps with default settings in a crowded area! Core i7's don't count :D
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www.pingplotter.com (http://www.pingplotter.com)
If your provider knows you're watching they will clean up their act. JMO :salute :joystick:
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www.pingplotter.com (http://www.pingplotter.com)
If your provider knows you're watching they will clean up their act. JMO :salute :joystick:
framerate and ping are two different things
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bandwidth can effect frame rate...Right? If your sever is dropping 10% packets all the time that has to effect frame rate.... :confused:
If you go into the clip-board in advanced view options and get rid of ground detail/clutter, and water detail, this will take some load off the GPU. :salute
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bandwidth can effect frame rate...Right? If your sever is dropping 10% packets all the time that has to effect frame rate.... :confused:
If you go into the clip-board in advanced view options and get rid of ground detail/clutter, and water detail, this will take some load off the GPU. :salute
I think the point that's trying to be made is that some people (regardless of their machines) were running the game maxed out on settings, Hi Res, sliders to the max, shadows, detailed water and terrain and so on, and were getting FPS's of 59-60 consistently. Since the lattest series of patches, those same people have had a tendency to disco more, increase in FPS drops, stutters and overall just not a lot of fun playing the game in it's current state. That's what I think has led people to comment about their leaving.
I have also seen FPS drop offs where I never had them before, at least not to the extent I seem to be having them now from time to time. We're talking an FPS drop from 59/60 to a frame rate that approximates a slide show. Not to raise a stink or anything, but it was getting pretty bad. I have since gone in and reduced my background processes so that when I'm in game, my running processes are about 46 to 49. It helps, but I do think something needs looking at.
Nutz
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I think the point that's trying to be made is that some people (regardless of their machines) were running the game maxed out on settings, Hi Res, sliders to the max, shadows, detailed water and terrain and so on, and were getting FPS's of 59-60 consistently. Since the lattest series of patches, those same people have had a tendency to disco more, increase in FPS drops, stutters and overall just not a lot of fun playing the game in it's current state. That's what I think has led people to comment about their leaving.
Sounds to me like they were teetering on the edge of over-taxing their hardware, and the stuff introduced with the latest patches pushed them over the edge. Now their computer can no longer keep up with all the graphics data and also keep up with the network packets, etc. Whether they tried reducing the resolution, or the graphics quality sliders, I don't know. Maybe they refuse to reduce the eye candy and are too stubborn to admit their machines can no longer handle max graphics settings.
In any case, it seems logical that it is possible for reduced frame rates due to over-taxed hardware to affect ping times across the network. But frame rates are most definitely not the same as ping rates. ;)
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Sounds to me like they were teetering on the edge of over-taxing their hardware, and the stuff introduced with the latest patches pushed them over the edge. Now their computer can no longer keep up with all the graphics data and also keep up with the network packets, etc. Whether they tried reducing the resolution, or the graphics quality sliders, I don't know. Maybe they refuse to reduce the eye candy and are too stubborn to admit their machines can no longer handle max graphics settings.
In any case, it seems logical that it is possible for reduced frame rates due to over-taxed hardware to affect ping times across the network. But frame rates are most definitely not the same as ping rates. ;)
Usually I would agree with you Dot, but if you go back and read some of the other posts (1maddog1) you'll see that there are people with fairly high end machines that also are fighting low FR's at times.
Nutz
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I also seem to haver some Frame rate issues just recently also my squaddies were saying same thing other night
my machine is new to me and faster than my DELL but the fram rates stayed the same,even lowered some.i guess 3 grand for a computer is only way to have stable rates
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I too experience low frame rates in crowded areas. I am running hi-res with everything on and shadows at only 2048. I find it hard to believe my computer cant cut it in a crowded area. :bhead
Asrock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 mobo
I5-2500k
16Gig of ram (1600)
Win7 64 Bit
Radeon HD 6950 2gb 830mhz core
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Excuse me! US rookies want to know how you are measuring the frame rate? Is there some master panel that tells you what it is? :headscratch: Yeah I know stupid question right?
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(control + I) if I remember right. It will toggle a display at the top of your screen while in game.
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I too experience low frame rates in crowded areas. I am running hi-res with everything on and shadows at only 2048. I find it hard to believe my computer cant cut it in a crowded area. :bhead
Asrock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 mobo
I5-2500k
16Gig of ram (1600)
Win7 64 Bit
Radeon HD 6950 2gb 830mhz core
Turn Shadows on Others and Bump Map Others off. 99% of the time, you're no where near them or stay close enough to notice the difference. Saves you some resources.
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I run everything on full graphics, with V-sync on I get 60 FPS and anytime I tank around a "fire" it drops to 10-20fps (max is 60 fps).
V-sync off I run around 220fps and never drop below 200 fps, regardless of how many fires or "cons" in the area.
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I too experience low frame rates in crowded areas. I am running hi-res with everything on and shadows at only 2048. I find it hard to believe my computer cant cut it in a crowded area. :bhead
Asrock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 mobo
I5-2500k
16Gig of ram (1600)
Win7 64 Bit
Radeon HD 6950 2gb 830mhz core
Crank down your anti-aliasing settings and watch what happens.
Folks, the game scales well. If you are having video performance issues, crank down anti-aliasing first, then turn off bump mapping options.
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Crank down your anti-aliasing settings and watch what happens.
Folks, the game scales well. If you are having video performance issues, crank down anti-aliasing first, then turn off bump mapping options.
I only run 1 notch of AA, ill try to run none.
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I only run 1 notch of AA, ill try to run none.
Failing that, try setting the distance slider to a shorter distance, as that is the next big resource usage and/or uncheck some of the options in the 'Advanced' panel.
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Failing that, try setting the distance slider to a shorter distance, as that is the next big resource usage and/or uncheck some of the options in the 'Advanced' panel.
Skuzzy I also heard way back the caching all the Skins was a resource issue. True? I auto download them all.
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Skins are a resource. The more different skins in view, the more resources are going to be used.
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skuzzy, what is the weak link in my pc? I am out of town at the moment to test the settings but what could I improve on to run maxed out without stutters. :headscratch:
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Other than low frame rate I have a problem with the graphic detail not staying set where I put it. The detail water is the only high detail I run all else is off. Yet after 5 minutes of play my FR drops 55 to 5 and the graphic detail will change. I reloaded this game three times and down loaded Game Boost to run it with and I still can't keep enough frame rate to play.
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Quite frankly, the 6950 is a middle of the road performer. A good card, but it will get stressed with all the new options.
That said, every computer is different. What bottlenecks one computer may not bottleneck the same hardware for another user. It really depends on the software installed and the configuration of said software.
I am trying to get to a point, at home, where I can do a full cross matrix of all the game video options to show how they could impact a system. I just moved so I am still getting everything together.
Other than low frame rate I have a problem with the graphic detail not staying set where I put it. The detail water is the only high detail I run all else is off. Yet after 5 minutes of play my FR drops 55 to 5 and the graphic detail will change. I reloaded this game three times and down loaded Game Boost to run it with and I still can't keep enough frame rate to play.
I'd need a DXDIAG output for this one. Off the top of my head it sounds like something else is grabbing the CPU, or the video card is really a low end card, or there is a video driver issue (not well matched to the card). Heat could also cause this. The power supply could cause it.
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skuzzy, what is the weak link in my pc? I am out of town at the moment to test the settings but what could I improve on to run maxed out without stutters. :headscratch:
Run a dxdiag, save a copy and e-mail it to him at support@hitechcreations.com (http://support@hitechcreations.com) attn: Skuzzy
I don't remember how to exactly run one :rofl but, I know that is what he is going to need to know your exact system setup and where you might be able to make improvements. He helped me with that in 07 or 08.
:salute
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Quite frankly, the 6950 is a middle of the road performer. A good card, but it will get stressed with all the new options.
That said, every computer is different. What bottlenecks one computer may not bottleneck the same hardware for another user. It really depends on the software installed and the configuration of said software.
I am trying to get to a point, at home, where I can do a full cross matrix of all the game video options to show how they could impact a system. I just moved so I am still getting everything together.
I'd need a DXDIAG output for this one. Off the top of my head it sounds like something else is grabbing the CPU, or the video card is really a low end card, or there is a video driver issue (not well matched to the card). Heat could also cause this. The power supply could cause it.
i thought that was a dual GPU card that its bigger brother the 6990 is the best ATI card? yet it the 6950 gets stressed on this game? how?
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Is it because of your overclocking?
LOL!
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YO Skuzz, thats a top of the line current/previous gen ATI card your talking about there bro. That should be able to run Aces High in its entirety on a handful of its shaders.
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i thought that was a dual GPU card that its bigger brother the 6990 is the best ATI card? yet it the 6950 gets stressed on this game? how?
No, the 6950 is the 6970 with functionality missing.
YO Skuzz, thats a top of the line current/previous gen ATI card your talking about there bro. That should be able to run Aces High in its entirety on a handful of its shaders.
No it is not a top if the line card in ATI's line.
Look, you guys seem to know so much more about this game than I do. I'll just bow out of this thread. If any of you really want help, then post in the Tech support forum.
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See Rule #4
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skuzzy, is there a better card that you would recommend? I was under the impression the 6950 was a decent card when I bought it.
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Deleted for quote of rule 4 violation.
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core clock is 840mhz iirc.
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See rule #4.
HiTech
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See rule #4.
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why was i rule #4 slaped?
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Lets let it be olds.
:salute
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why was i rule #4 slaped?
I bet rule #3 and #5 were already taken. :D
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No, the 6950 is the 6970 with functionality missing.
No it is not a top if the line card in ATI's line.
Look, you guys seem to know so much more about this game than I do. I'll just bow out of this thread. If any of you really want help, then post in the Tech support forum.
I beg to differ..... I have the 6950 in my rocking gaming machine and it is amazing. I'm sure it is helped along by my P-60 running 4mb ram. :D
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Well I fixed my frame rate problem and it turned out to be operator error on my part. While I did vacuum out what I believed to be the cooling fan for the video card it was not. I was told to pull the side cover off and look for the card fan so I did and it was full of dust. A trip to the garage and my air compressor did the trick and now the frame rate holds at 50 to 55.
This explains why the game worked fine for 15 minutes than frame rate fell off to nothing. I wanted to share my stupidity here since I complained here. It is only fair to man up when you make a fool of yourself on a public forum. My apologies to HTC and Skuzzy.
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