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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Condor11 on April 26, 2012, 08:44:31 PM
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First let me start by saying this is not a post to flame or attack anyone, the only intention is to see who yall think are pilots that found the razors edge in a plane. Im talking about the guys that when you manage to catch alone in the MA or in a duel, seem to know the perfect move at every turn. Its only happend a handful of times in the several years ive been playingbbut it amazes me everytime.
My recent encounter with Alphamega (sry if its mispelled) in his p38 is actually the only one in recent memory. My first death came as i attempted to pick him in a 109g2. He forced the overshoot perfectly and i turned to run and was gunned down by a pony flying around. This wasnt the outmatched i am recalling but it motovated me to hunt down the 38 in revenge ;).
So i upped a spixteen (noob plane i know but when i want revenge i up easy planes lol. I caught him co alt 1v1 over the water at about 5 k with slightly more speed and pursued him for about 1/4 a sector. As i caught him i expected the overshoot so i went over the top and for the next 5 mins we fought through sciccors and every move i could think of where a spixteen would have advantage. Yet no matter the move, even when i anticipated the reaction, my guns were just slightly off solution. Finnaly i went aggresive and went pure vertical trying to stall an whip the nose around quick, hoping to get a brief shot off. To my surpise , just as my nose came down i was sawed n half by a quick burst from him. I couldnt believe how at every turn he had that perfect position to slowly gain the advantage. Needless to say i avoided 38s from his side the rest of the night.
Just additional info he was all around courteous to my humilitating defeat so a big <S> his way.
Just wanted to see everyones opinions of pilots that are at this level so i can perhaps study films with and against them.
Condor/Covernow
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Just wanted to see everyones opinions of pilots that are at this level so i can perhaps study films with and against them.
Condor/Covernow
If they're better than me, I try to DA them. There, I can see/ask what I did wrong or just figure out their style after a few matches and turn the tables on them. If I run into a 1v1 in the MA and lose, I just go "meh" and move on (of course after all the <S>, good fight, and all that). Same if I win a 1v1, just go "meh, that was fun", and move on.
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Ha that was a great fighg my man! Big S! to you, i had full flaps and turning and burning that puppy best i could (P38J), ive found my niche in that plane and it i just enjoy flying it, all in all i think this game is 90% reaction, because if you think, your dead :uhoh, some guys just fit with a certain plane really well, if i were in something else, im sure you woulda had me, S! -ALFAMEGA
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My CO and XO have a habit of beating me mercilessly in every 1v1, only time I even get a shot is when they get lazy :bhead :furious
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The P38 is not going to stick with any Spitfire in a slow turn. The good P38 guys can get it to snap roll very well and keep the scissors and rolling scissors alive for a long time.
Once I get in to a 1v1 vs a P38 player and I can tell her knows what he is doing, I attempt to get the speed as slow as possible if I know I can out turn him. As soon as I see them dip that wing in quick fasion, I know I have my work cut out for me.
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My CO and XO have a habit of beating me mercilessly in every 1v1, only time I even get a shot is when they get lazy :bhead :furious
:rofl
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stick to a plane, learn its strengh, duel with it, MA with it...training training
Eventually you will become good in that plane, and all these mind games will be solved without thinking one bit. Rome wasn't built in one day :old:
Or you can become a skill less pick tard like me :P Here is a film http://mapage.noos.fr/rsm/P51Dawesome.zip
(my CO beats the crap out of me also)
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Actually, I think it might be a lead turn vs lag pursuit issue.
If you try for a gun solution in a turnfight that up close and personal, youll have to turn inside your opponents turn (for lead, obviously)... in doing that, you will loose angle and/or E. Especially in a rolling scissor, I found it best to just keep my patience, my nose on the enemies *tail) (lagging) and try not to mess up first ;). One of you is going to make a tiny mistake eventually... its all about not being the first in doing so.
Sometimes your just outmatched though ;).
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I had a fun fight with 1oldcoot last night, he was in the P47-m and I in the Yak-t, he had alt on me bu I fly the M a lot and have a good idea how it flies, so I start working it down knowing I can force him to overshoot strait down, this works 3 times but he knows or atleast figures out what I am trying to do to him and climbs out and away every time, I have to get a perfect Solution because of my single cannon where as I know he has tons of ammo and can kill me easily with a good burst, he also has multiple chances were I have only a few ( not much ammo)
If I can work him down to the deck I have a better chance as well!
It was a fun , good fight, I did lose eventually , but I expected that it wouldn't be an easy kill after the second dive, I could have cut and run but don't get to fight against the big jug all that much and really wanted to see what it was like being on the other side of it with a good pilot .
Later I think I had him pinned down in my own jug but others came along and got into our fight, I don't fault them but it is fun to get into a 1v1 and get to finish it without interference , that's why I always ask I'd someone needs help in one before I dive into the fight!
<<S>> 1oldcoot!
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:huh :huh OK Titan.....how about " Its only a little piece of Ice". :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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This thread just confirms the P38 is easy mode........... :noid
PewterC5
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What he said.
Stab
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This thread just confirms the P38 is easy mode........... :noid
PewterC5
:noid :noid
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stick to a plane, learn its strengh, duel with it, MA with it...training training
:aok
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The guys who kill in the P38s have mastered the post stall hammerhead turn who's rate of rotation exceeds the non-stalled turn rate of most every plane here.
I've only run into a couple here who can do it but you can recognize them when it looks like hand of god has just grabbed them and spun them 180 degrees.
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P38's - So bad, they need 2 engines. :devil
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Neg. As to me they use 'dirty' trick only.
:salute
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....light bomber....'nuff said
Stab
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Just wanted to see everyones opinions of pilots that are at this level so i can perhaps study films with and against them.
Condor/Covernow
Off topic but have you tried training?
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....light bomber....'nuff said
Stab
:rock
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P38's - So bad, they need 2 engines. :devil
Hey, its just cause all of us P38 pilots have manboobs, so we need 2 engines :D
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Off topic but have you tried training?
Oh yea. I do failr well with usually a 1.4-2 kd ratio and all that jazz. Ive just never been able to find that razors edge of a certain plane yet
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Oh yea. I do failr well with usually a 1.4-2 kd ratio and all that jazz. Ive just never been able to find that razors edge of a certain plane yet
score means squat, you certainly can not judge someones skill on rank, or stats.
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alpha is deadly for sure and I appreciate flying with him in the MA. And against the 38 - it becomes pretty clear if the pilot is good or bad.
To answer your question though - I love the 1v1 in the MA and to my disadvantage I will almost always pick a target in the mix and 1v1 it as best as i can. in all honesty, low numbers 3v3 or so are the best fights.
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score means squat, you certainly can not judge someones skill on rank, or stats.
^^^^^ This
NOTE: ignore all P-38s... they are piloted by dweebs
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^^^^^ This
NOTE: ignore all P-38s... they are piloted by dweebs
I never take a 38 lightly, in the right hands they are deadly....luckily I have only encountered maybe 4 guys that will really make me work to get them, but I cheat and use the easiest plane in game :rofl
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^^^^^ This
NOTE: ignore all P-38s... they are piloted by dweebs
LOL :rofl
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alpha is deadly for sure and I appreciate flying with him in the MA. And against the 38 - it becomes pretty clear if the pilot is good or bad.
To answer your question though - I love the 1v1 in the MA and to my disadvantage I will almost always pick a target in the mix and 1v1 it as best as i can. in all honesty, low numbers 3v3 or so are the best fights.
:aok
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I'm against score whoring. I go pwn a sector and die almost everytime and still manage a 2.5 k/d or higher every tour. :D :airplane:
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I'm against score whoring. I go pwn a sector and die almost everytime and still manage a 2.5 k/d or higher every tour. :D :airplane:
:noid
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I never take a 38 lightly, in the right hands they are deadly....luckily I have only encountered maybe 4 guys that will really make me work to get them, but I cheat and use the easiest plane in game :rofl
I don't take a 38 lightly either as in my hands it is almost certain death...for me :)
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I don't take a 38 lightly either as in my hands it is almost certain death...for me :)
Perfectly put ;)
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I don't take a 38 lightly either as in my hands it is almost certain death...for me :)
I resemble that remark!!!! :O
--Mitch
AKA SEBaker
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I suck in every aircraft except a buff and I've been here for a decade... :uhoh
What's sad....is that isn't sarcasm...
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I suck in every aircraft except a buff and I've been here for a decade... :uhoh
What's sad....is that isn't sarcasm...
Getting killed all the time (we don't really get killed) or killing someone else doesn't really mean a thing. It is how you feel about what your doing that really counts. Good fights, hanging with friends, staying out of trouble.................. Was not that many years back that you had to leave the house to have as much fun.
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I resemble that remark!!!! :O
--Mitch
AKA SEBaker
You sir are holding true to your statement hehe, you made a nice crater in a town center near me today, poor B38 :cry
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You sir are holding true to your statement hehe, you made a nice crater in a town center near me today, poor P38 :cry
Yea, but think of the extra income for the Lockheed employees!!!... I love the P-38... Got pasted by Delirium the other night in LW arena.... Having fun all the time!!!!!
See-ya
Mitch
AKA SEBaker
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Yea, but think of the extra income for the Lockheed employees!!!... I love the P-38... Got pasted by Delirium the other night in LW arena.... Having fun all the time!!!!!
See-ya
Mitch
AKA SEBaker
:rofl