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Title: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: Viper61 on April 30, 2012, 12:33:22 AM
The Battle of Britian scenario's only come once a year and in my opinion they are the best scenario's.

Many years ago when I was new to AHII one of my first FSO's was a BOB scenario (ALLIED) and I will never forget it.  "TheBug" was the AXIS CIC and he put nearly every German pilot into JU88's.  3 VERY, VERY large formations came across England, one behind the other separated by about 10 miles.  To this day I have never seen a larger bomber formation in AHII.  I wish I had film of that formation now.  Lets just say that Leigh Mallory's "Big Wing" didn't work that night.  That JU88 formation was equally impressive as it was deadly.  And the best 3 minutes of flying in any FSO I can remember!!   :D  I was hooked at that point and never missed another BOB frame.

I'm hoping that the set up will allow the AXIS to up plenty of bombers if they choose.  This is the closest scenario to the 8th AF scenario's we run in 44 time period.  Only reversed for the ALLIES.

I hope the turn out will be good as these are the best scenario's and I appreciate the CM's putting the BOB in  :salute
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: Fencer51 on April 30, 2012, 01:34:40 AM
BoB FSOs are the best...  8th AF vs Luftwaffe Scenarios are the best.  :aok  :cheers:
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: HighTone on April 30, 2012, 11:33:53 AM
Sorry but I'll take the PTO any day. But being a special events guy and having to spend 80% of the year in the ETO I guess I've had to learn to like it.

<--- Sees that we are running BoB for this months FSO and sighs....ETO again  :bhead

I know last month we were in N. Africa.
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: tmetal on April 30, 2012, 12:22:55 PM
I'm with you Hightone, kinda bummed about staying in the ETO, I was hoping for a russian front or a trip back to the PTO.  still... :salute to the guys who put these together for us.
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: Nefarious on April 30, 2012, 06:47:51 PM
We are heading East in June...  :P

But I do like the BOB setups myself too.
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: kansas2 on April 30, 2012, 11:30:24 PM
Last three frames in a Hurricane. Now three more ?!?!      :bhead
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: Fencer51 on May 01, 2012, 02:11:55 AM
Last three frames in a Hurricane. Now three more ?!?!      :bhead

Gotcha covered ole buddy.  :aok
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: ImADot on May 01, 2012, 06:46:53 AM
Last three frames in a Hurricane. Now three more ?!?! 

You can request to fly Axis.
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: captain1ma on May 01, 2012, 08:00:31 AM
axis planes are betterer. they make allied planes go "poof"!!   :D
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: APDrone on May 01, 2012, 08:18:24 AM
You can request to fly Axis.
And then we can have 3 frames of 109s like we had in the March FSO. :bhead
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: ImADot on May 01, 2012, 08:44:18 AM
And then we can have 3 frames of 109s like we had in the March FSO. :bhead

You can join the all-volunteer CM team and design some events.


 ;)
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: APDrone on May 01, 2012, 08:47:26 AM
You can join the all-volunteer CM team and design some events.


 ;)

I was a CM for four years, thank you.
 :salute
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: HighTone on May 01, 2012, 09:22:07 AM
My remarks are in no way critical of our CM team. I know these guys are putting fourth their time for the benefit of us all. I and my squad are very thankfull for their work. They make the FSO possible for us all.

I just sometimes wish we could spend more time in the PTO and CBI theaters. But I can also see that there are folks that would like it just the opposite. So it's gotta be a balance I suppose.
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: captain1ma on May 01, 2012, 02:32:25 PM
I just sometimes wish we could spend more time in the PTO and CBI theaters. But I can also see that there are folks that would like it just the opposite. So it's gotta be a balance I suppose.


why yes, because we really enjoy getting wiped out in a paper airplanes. I'll take ETO any day, atleast we have half a chance!
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: Bino on May 01, 2012, 03:43:16 PM
We prefer to mix it up.  That way, everyone's equally unhappy!   ;)

 
2011 - Apr -  PTO - Ketsu-Go
2011 - May - CBI - Burma Backwater
2011 - Jun -  EF - Mannerheim Cross
2011 - Jul -   MED - Baytown
2011 - Aug - ETO - Decision in Dunkirk
2011 - Sep - ETO - Across The Rhine
2011 - Oct -  PTO - Scratch One Flattop!
2011 - Nov - EF - Red Guards Crimea
2011 - Dec - ETO - Adler Krieg
2012 - Jan -  ETO - Normandy Summer
2012 - Feb -  PTO - Fire In The Sky
2012 - Mar -  ETO - The Eighth Comes Over
2012 - Apr -  MED - Out Of The Sun
2012 - May - ETO - Battle Of Britain

Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: HighTone on May 01, 2012, 04:42:01 PM
why yes, because we really enjoy getting wiped out in a paper airplanes. I'll take ETO any day, atleast we have half a chance!

Ignorant remarks such as the one above are part of the reason many folks who have seemingly never read a book believe just that. When in reality that was far from the truth.

Some in my squad believe that signing up to fly one of those POS German death traps is a waste of time. I tend to try and correct that attitude with some history and truth vs spewing anecdotal B.S.  

Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: Devil 505 on May 01, 2012, 09:08:15 PM
2011 - Jan -  EF - Götterdämmerung  
2011 - Feb - PTO - Dillinger's Wake  Ship vs. ship battle was a great addition
2011 - Mar -  MED - Tunisia   Forced GV battle was a drag.
2011 - Apr -  PTO - Ketsu-Go    Shoehorned into FSO schedule with introduction of the B-29
2011 - May - CBI - Burma Backwater   Poor timing as current AH Scenerio was nearly identical and 3rd PTO setup in 4 months
2011 - Jun -  EF - Mannerheim Cross
2011 - Jul -   MED - Baytown
2011 - Aug - ETO - Decision in Dunkirk
2011 - Sep - ETO - Across The Rhine
2011 - Oct -  PTO - Scratch One Flattop!
2011 - Nov - EF - Red Guards Crimea
2011 - Dec - MED - Adler Krieg
2012 - Jan -  ETO - Normandy Summer
2012 - Feb -  PTO - Fire In The Sky  Setup was nearly identical to "Scratch One Flattop"
2012 - Mar -  ETO - The Eighth Comes Over  110 rocket rule needed some tweaking
2012 - Apr -  MED - Out Of The Sun
2012 - May - ETO - Battle Of Britain  Nearly identical planeset as previous FSO, "Out of the Sun"

Backed up schedule to show all of 2011. Made some notations of issues to illustrate where improvements to FSO could be made. Most issues were related to scheduling and balancing of available theaters of operation.

Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: captain1ma on May 01, 2012, 10:12:44 PM
Ignorant remarks such as the one above are part of the reason many folks who have seemingly never read a book believe just that. When in reality that was far from the truth.

Some in my squad believe that signing up to fly one of those POS German death traps is a waste of time. I tend to try and correct that attitude with some history and truth vs spewing anecdotal B.S.  



my opinions are based on my flight time in the FSO, not any book or real life. its not a ignorant remark, but rather one based on my experiences. i agree to disagree, but every time i fly pto, my squad gets shredded. not saying that they're(paper planes) better or worse, just that i prefer ETO to PTO. calling it an ignorant remark isn't nice nor necessary. uneducated might have been a better term to use.  :salute
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: Devil 505 on May 01, 2012, 10:48:20 PM
my opinions are based on my flight time in the FSO, not any book or real life. its not a ignorant remark, but rather one based on my experiences.
Jaeger, the biggest problem with useing "your experience" to define a theater or planeset is that there are many variables at play that dictate success or failure long before the battle becomes plane vs. plane. Remember, in FSO there are CiCs who assign planes and white a battleplan. Is your CiC assigning planes based on who is best in what, or on who flew what last? Do they know the strengths and weaknesses of the available planes? What squad(s) are you flying with on your mission? Are they competent in their aircraft? Will they follow the mission, or abandon you to claim glory for themselfs? Is the mission thoughtfully planned? Then ask those same questions about your enemy.
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: Viper61 on May 02, 2012, 11:14:41 AM
And now back to the orginal post:

  BOB scenarios are the best!!!   :O :bolt:
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: HighTone on May 02, 2012, 04:11:12 PM
Ehhh.....I'll take the PTO events.....(and the CBI).  :rock
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: APDrone on May 02, 2012, 05:14:33 PM
I withhold judgement on BoB until the HE-111 and DO-17 are added to the planeset.

Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: branch37 on May 02, 2012, 05:17:19 PM
I withhold judgement on BoB until the HE-111 and DO-17 are added to the planeset.


This
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: Nefarious on May 02, 2012, 06:53:18 PM
I withhold judgement on BoB until the HE-111 and DO-17 are added to the planeset.

Outside of the absence of the Heinkel and the Dornier, It is one of the most balanced setups in FSO when managed properly.

But I do agree, they are sorely missed over many FSO's and Scenarios.
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: captain1ma on May 02, 2012, 10:22:38 PM
in the AVA i use Betty's for HE111's. while not the same, due to the flame factor and the 20mm guns, they're kinda close in a weird sort of way. if i only had a luftwaffe skin for the Betty's......
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: branch37 on May 02, 2012, 11:20:31 PM
the only real problem with the BoB setups is that the Ju-88s are too fast.  The British planes get one head on pass if lucky, and then its a tail chase and easy pickings. 
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: ROC on May 03, 2012, 06:44:49 PM
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The British planes get one head on pass if lucky, and then its a tail chase and easy pickings.
Actually there is a highly effective BnZ weaving pattern that does quite a bit of damage while keeping on top of the 88's.  It's hard though, does take some dedicated training and practice, and a good scout to find those pesky buggers so the pattern can be set up.
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: Squire on May 05, 2012, 12:00:39 AM
BoB 1940 is always fun but we need a He-111 or Do-17 yes. Keep at em boys they added the G4M after many years of requests.  ;)
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: Alpha81 on May 05, 2012, 10:20:45 AM
Viper...Outstanding vision on this one, per our joint orders you hit the nail on the head!

FSO Admin...I speak for my entire squad when I say Bravo Zulu to you all... all of us look forward to each and every one of these scenarios and yes sometimes we end up in the tower early but its about the experience and the camaraderie, nicely done.
Title: Re: The "BOB" scenario's are the best
Post by: Stampf on May 05, 2012, 11:05:51 AM
... its about the experience and the camaraderie, nicely done.

 :aok