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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Zacherof on May 01, 2012, 05:32:09 PM
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Wheres my high octane gas for my hayate?????? I would pay 20 perks for each barrel.
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I mean the Ki was historically faster than the p51 and p47 at low to medium altitudes. but only with 150 octane gas which japan didnt have alot of hence the perks
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Because the Japanese didn't produce high octane aviation fuel, they were unable to do so. The Japanese had enough problems during the war, a shortage of oil is what brought on the war (and other items).
The factories and Refinaries were in a bad situation, a lack of resources was a major problem where the american's were able to simply convert automobile factories to produce tanks and aircraft at an outstanding rate.
If you look at the production changes of the Japanese vs America you'd be quite surprised, I believe the Americans pumped out in 1942 more pilots then the Japanese did in the entire war.
This topic can go on and on, but frankly the high octane Ki-84 was only flown with high octane in the united states, and not in Japan.
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if you want the high octane stuff you need to talk to daddkev
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The High octane fuel is not needed.
AH Ki-84-Ia (aka Ki-84-Ko) using IJAAF's mass production trial model data, 624km/h at 5000m.
The engine was HA-45-Toku(1800HP/2900RPM/+400mmHg), The HA-45-Toku is power limited version of HA-45-21(2000HP/3000RPM/+500mmHg).
Also this trial model equipped normal exhaust manifold. (the mass production model changed to augment exhaust pipes. it improves speed to 10~20km/h.)
In fact, according to Japanese reference, the mass production Ki-84-I-Ko's max speed was up to 650~655km/h with HA-45-21 2000HP engine and augment exhaust pipes. Also Ki-84-Otsu (4x20mm ver) recorded 660km/h at 6000m.
These all data have been recorded when engine condition was "good".
IJAAF has limited HA-45-21's power to the same as HA-45-Toku in the war.
But Aces High simulates engine condition is always "perfect", so Ki-84 can be gotten more speed.
Please adjust the Ki-84. :)
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this is an old wish. . .but if the ki84 were any faster or produced any more power it could be considered 'easy mode'. . .hell its already good.
irks me to no end watching those fishing guys use it the way they do, god forbid everyone else using it as a runner.
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And my question and wish is...
Why does N1K2 have 5 min WEP, but Ki-84 has only 1 min WEP with the same engine?
N1K2's engine, the NK9H's WEP is limited to 1 min from according N1K2's flight manual.
By the way, According to Bunzo Komine's report, IJAAF/IJNAF has removed a power limit of HA-45 and NK9H to fight against late war enemy fighters in 1944 December. From this, both engines could use WEP 10 min.
It's interesting. :)
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And my question and wish is...
Why does N1K2 have 5 min WEP, but Ki-84 has only 1 min WEP with the same engine?
N1K2's engine, the NK9H's WEP is limited to 1 min from according N1K2's flight manual.
By the way, According to Bunzo Komine's report, IJAAF/IJNAF has removed a power limit of HA-45 and NK9H to fight against late war enemy fighters in 1944 December. From this, both engines could use WEP 10 min.
It's interesting. :)
I believe the engine was limited to 3 minutes of wep only, or the engine will be heavily damaged.
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I have seen some posts suggests that the N1k could turn fight with the best of the turn-fight birds. I have never found the N1k to be able to get into a sustained turn fight with the likes of a Spit or Zero. Am I just flying that thing wrong? Maybe I have the (x) Turn Fighter configuration toggle off for it. :lol
To me the N1k's strengths are the guns, visibility and rate of climb.
What do you guys feel about N1k in turn fights?
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N1K seems to do fine against Spits IMO. Although the fights usually last a few seconds at most before that one snapshot ends it.
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N1K seems to do fine against Spits IMO.
I agree.
Can it turn fight with them though, i.e. would you consider an N1k a turn-fighter?
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I agree.
Can it turn fight with them though, i.e. would you consider an N1k a turn-fighter?
N1ks are all round one of the best turn fighters in the game, although nothing special its a tab slower then most fighters, but it still can climb well, use flaps in a fight and stay in the vertical longer then most.
I ran into some VERY good N1k drivers, and I can tell you its NOT an easy plane to dogfight at all, it has very little weaknesses other then the low muzzle velocity of the guns.
Sure you won't out turn a zero, keep it in the vertical and it will beat a Zero and give a 109/spitfire a headache.
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Can it turn fight with them though, i.e. would you consider an N1k a turn-fighter?
Absolutely, unless you dismiss anything flat turning worse than an A6M. ;)
But the N1k still has a sustained turn rate and turn radius among the best in the game. With full flaps, significantly better than a Spit 16.
See also http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=n1k2j&p2=spit16
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Butcher, Lusche,
Good points sirs. I did not know that.
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nikis are my cryptonite
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But the N1k still has a sustained turn rate and turn radius among the best in the game. With full flaps, significantly better than a Spit 16.
See also http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=n1k2j&p2=spit16
Thanks, thats why they give me such a hard time... didnt know that before. There is a stoopid DirtDart dude, always killin me :joystick:
:cheers:
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And my question and wish is...
Why does N1K2 have 5 min WEP, but Ki-84 has only 1 min WEP with the same engine?
N1K2's engine, the NK9H's WEP is limited to 1 min from according N1K2's flight manual.
By the way, According to Bunzo Komine's report, IJAAF/IJNAF has removed a power limit of HA-45 and NK9H to fight against late war enemy fighters in 1944 December. From this, both engines could use WEP 10 min.
It's interesting. :)
In the same kind of stuff, why the merlin engine in the P51 has double the WEP times than in a spitfire?
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In the same kind of stuff, why the merlin engine in the P51 has double the WEP times than in a spitfire?
It has? Last time I checked both had 5 minutes, only most German fighters and the LA's had 10 :headscratch:
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according to THE fph its 10mins in the P51 and 5Mins in the spitfire.
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P51 has 5 minutes.
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WEP cycle in the AH Wiki: http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/WEP
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WEP cycle in the AH Wiki: http://www.hitechcreations.com/wiki/index.php/WEP
ok then if that is still accurate only the recharge time differs, whatever the reason is :headscratch:
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ok then if that is still accurate only the recharge time differs, whatever the reason is :headscratch:
All Merlins in American aircraft recharge their WEP faster than Merlins in British aircraft. No idea why.
(Well, I am not sure where the P-40F falls in that list)
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All Merlins in American aircraft recharge their WEP faster than Merlins in British aircraft. No idea why.
(Well, I am not sure where the P-40F falls in that list)
Do you just mean in-game or in RL? I have never noticed, as I only occasionally fly the P-51B when not in a Spitfire.
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Do you just mean in-game or in RL? I have never noticed, as I only occasionally fly the P-51B when not in a Spitfire.
In game.
In real life the Merlin had no "cooldown" time.
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The N1K2 should have 1 min WEP too? or Ki-84 should have 5 min WEP?
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In game.
In real life the Merlin had no "cooldown" time.
Well there's a pretty good reason for that, however due to the damage of the engine - there was a time limit like every other aircraft.
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I would much rather see some extra variants of the Ki-84 added to the game. Which, emergency materials versions aside, would mean a slight increase in performance across the board and the gift of choice for those with good taste :rock
The external differences are very very minor but a different interior is required for some of the variants. Perhaps during the next 3d vamp?
However, given how competitive the Ki-84 is in Aces High already, and given it is the pooiest production version fielded, it would generate more whines that the Spitfires do right now. :old:
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Well there's a pretty good reason for that, however due to the damage of the engine - there was a time limit like every other aircraft.
Not really. Slight increase in chance of failure. Main problem was accelerated maintenance schedules.
I'm aware of a Spit V that ran at WEP for half an hour with no ill effects. Granted, that may not be the normal expectation, but there certainly was not a magic "Go longer than 5 minutes and your engine blows up" result.
To be clear, I am not advocating a change in AH. The 5 minute restriction is required or people would rampantly abuse engines with simple boost increase based WEP in a way that would have gotten them disciplined in reality.
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Honestly, how much more UBER does the ki84 need to be?
JUGgler
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Honestly, how much more UBER does the ki84 need to be?
JUGgler
:lol
give me my 4 20's and we will see :D
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In Pacific Fighters I liked to fly the 1c. What a monster that was....
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Ink, i would LOVE 4 20's on the KI. Its just the Ki feels 'slow'. idk how to really explain it im a noob with
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If you want to go faster then I suggest you select another ride. With an aircraft which begins to lose control authority above 340 m.p.h. and starts shedding parts at 450 m.p.h. (if you're careless) you are really missing the point asking for more speed in this aircraft. In my humble opinion.
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Ink, i would LOVE 4 20's on the KI. Its just the Ki feels 'slow'. idk how to really explain it im a noob with
anytime you wanna get some practice in it look for me online...JETSOM will gladly help ya get to know her :aok
people complain I fly it now, if it had the punching power of the hurri2C.... :rofl
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If you want to go faster then I suggest you select another ride. With an aircraft which begins to lose control authority above 340 m.p.h. and starts shedding parts at 450 m.p.h. (if you're careless) you are really missing the point asking for more speed in this aircraft. In my humble opinion.
It can easily pull a blackout at 400mph, so long as you don't use combat trim.
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Yes you can.
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the mustang pilots I have talked to (current ones that fly todays warbird mustangs) say you have a scan that involves checking the engine temperature gauges every few seconds... airspeed, temp, alt, temp, heading, temp. not to read to much into such off the cuff remarks but I would think the merlin does not take kindly to overheating from any cause including running at extremely high power settings.
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I've smoked depleted octane, and synthetic octane. However not high octane...
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If the KI84 gets high octane gas then all of the American and British planes that used 150 octane need it too. KI84 is good enough already.